Chilli.2976 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Should actual CCs WITH a CD like Firebrand's F1 #3, Holosmith elite etc.. ignore aegis and potentially rip stability? Because frankly these skills are useless if someone has aegis etc. This potential suggestion does not apply to passive CCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeLZedaR.4790 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 So if a core guard pops his f3 to block your CC that’s not ok? Aegis isn’t a problem. Firebrand powercreeping into aegis spamfest (nerfed now but still) is the problem you’re having. And cc skills ripping stability is basically saying “let’s remove stability from the game, I don’t like it.” Then again you have things like steal which are very well designed, are not broken, have plenty of counterplay and encourage to not random dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilli.2976 Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 > @"BeLZedaR.4790" said: > So if a core guard pops his f3 to block your CC that’s not ok? > Aegis isn’t a problem. Firebrand powercreeping into aegis spamfest (nerfed now but still) is the problem you’re having. > > And cc skills ripping stability is basically saying “let’s remove stability from the game, I don’t like it.” > > Then again you have things like steal which are very well designed, are not broken, have plenty of counterplay and encourage to not random dodge. I was trying to suggest this for large CD skills with CC attached to them like holosmith eilte, revenant hammer 5 (see I am showing love) etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pah.4931 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 You should have to pay attention to boons and condis. Especially as a reaper (who has VERY limited access to stab and no access to aegis other than a shitty signet rune), this would be completely bogus. Why not just limit ridiculous ability to spam OP boons? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exedore.6320 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Say no to "arms race" balancing! Stop the power creep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDragon.3046 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 No otherwise what would be the point of having stability and aegis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kako.1930 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Oh god please no. There's way too much cc spam as it is. We don't need to have the few ways to deal with it ripped away, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Even some of your polls are funny or interesting the amount of threads you open gets a little bit cringy over time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 > @"Chilli.2976" said: > > @"BeLZedaR.4790" said: > > So if a core guard pops his f3 to block your CC that’s not ok? > > Aegis isn’t a problem. Firebrand powercreeping into aegis spamfest (nerfed now but still) is the problem you’re having. > > > > And cc skills ripping stability is basically saying “let’s remove stability from the game, I don’t like it.” > > > > Then again you have things like steal which are very well designed, are not broken, have plenty of counterplay and encourage to not random dodge. > > I was trying to suggest this for large CD skills with CC attached to them like holosmith eilte, revenant hammer 5 (see I am showing love) etc. You could make an argument for giving, on a case by case basis, big cc skills with big tells like drop the hammer, prime light beam, and chaotic release unblockability, and cc ignoring capabilities similar thief's bountiful theft + sleight of hand combo. However your poll presents a blanket statement of "CCs WITH a CD" which is litterally all of them except for certain thief initiative based cc's like head-shot and pistol-whip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Nah. CC should not be guaranteed. Aegis is a good counterweight to stunlocking. I'm all for stupid-long-cast windups doing CC through stability if you get hit by them, like Drop the Hammer. But not all CC. As far as Aegis, we already have unblockables/boon corruption/boon theft to deal with that. Let's not ruin guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshallLaw.9260 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 > @"bravan.3876" said: > Even some of your polls are funny or interesting the amount of threads you open gets a little bit cringy over time... Oh man, I just checked it out, you're not wrong. On topic - it's a little amusing how this poll is going so far - 2yes:25no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario.8964 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Holo elite is already unblockable so that isn't a needed note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 We need less unblockable spamming. Not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilli.2976 Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 Well its a pretty obvious answer now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon.8294 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Cant see why it would, you've blocked the skill. It's effect it null Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivantreil.3092 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 There's a reason i always start my guardian fights with an aa, to delete that initial aegis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 imo it shouldn't be stopped by barrier :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > imo it shouldn't be stopped by barrier :p It's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 > @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said: > > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > imo it shouldn't be stopped by barrier :p > > It's not Tell that to every Scourge I CC then lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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