FASTCAR.7831 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 In wvw/spvp .... turrets / heal machine are 100% useless They die 1-2 hits most of the time. Range on them is low A gadget engy would be fun (like in warhammer MMO) While I am ranting PLEASE speed up sneak gyro. With NO speed I out run it constantly. Increase speed 25%ish or range . Why cant engy fix golems or siege with supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie.1045 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 > @"FASTCAR.7831" said: > In wvw/spvp .... turrets / heal machine are 100% useless > They die 1-2 hits most of the time. > Range on them is low > A gadget engy would be fun (like in warhammer MMO) The best way to buff the turrets is to double the amount of health they have and reduce their cooldowns to 20 seconds, at least in PvP/WvW. Currently the turrets are useless. With the exception of Rifle Turret and Thumper Turret, the rest of the turrets are awful. Turrets definitely need somewhat of a rework or a buff to make them viable. In PvP, you can still play the Bunker Turret engineer build using the Tool Kit, Thumper Turret and the Rifle Turret if you want to. Those are the only good turrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 > @"FASTCAR.7831" said: > PLEASE speed up sneak gyro. With NO speed I out run it constantly. Increase speed 25%ish or range . What is this?! The almighty fastcar dont know the trick to make gyros keep pace? That's unpossible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzet.3614 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 correction Turrets are useless in PvE too , their sole purpose is simply tagging targets in pve to get loot during events , a simple buff isnt gonna make them viable they are broken all around even if y ou doubled their hp made them un critable regen and imune to condi their offense and support capabilities are useless except for heal turret , even during their " Op" time they were trash they were only viable in 1v1 scenarios vs players that had no Power in their builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagramor.7395 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 You must be new here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FASTCAR.7831 Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 Just tested turrets with a soldier War he 1 shot every turret just sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"FASTCAR.7831" said: > Just tested turrets with a soldier War > he 1 shot every turret > just sad Ofc he did. :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Cutter.9376 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Turrets are useless everywhere. They got gutted because whiny idiots in PVP couldn't figure out how to deal with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seffen.2875 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 They are as useless in WvW as ranger pets. Which i think is ok. They are not made for this mode. No ads are made for this mode. Not Renegade. Not Gyros. BUT they def. should be viable somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirdyy.1648 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"Seffen.2875" said: > They are as useless in WvW as ranger pets. This is not excatly true. The secret behind turrets in wvw: When u place them and they explode 0,1 sec after that, the enemy laughs for at least 5 sec and thats u r change to get him. This secret feature is well hidden from ANET but a few engi-insider know this devil trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother.1504 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Turret abilities are fine but they need to be a lot more durable or have greatly reduced cds to make them resummonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne.6140 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Turrets are wonderful in Istan farming Turrets are wonderful for pve farming, but they tend to bring on the envy of others, so they are quickly nerfed. They were overpowered in Lake Doric some time back till this guy came onto the forums and pointed out their overpoweredness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriforst.1290 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Turrets do not exist (except healing bomb). They are not indented to be used and has been such for a long time. So i wouldn't worry because they do not exist. However. While i can chose not to touch any turret, when playing scrapper my spec mechanic known as the f-gyro can not be swapped for a more usefull mechanic. And it has very low health and no armor meaning it dies to a single zerker auto attack. And this thing is supposed to be useful when things are getting dangerous? Its essentially taunt killing in tf2 to stomp someone with the gyro. POW- haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirdyy.1648 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"miriforst.1290" said: > when playing scrapper my spec mechanic known as the f-gyro can not be swapped for a more usefull mechanic. > > And it has very low health and no armor meaning it dies to a single zerker auto attack. And this thing is supposed to be useful when things are getting dangerous? > > Its essentially taunt killing in tf2 to stomp someone with the gyro. POW- haha! > > At least it make cute sounds - brr -brrr -brrr - and have a colorfull painting. That should be enough for engi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plautze.6290 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 The title should rather be Engy turrets ... useless everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martimus.6027 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 And also their models look like crap. You have Asura who have been a part of Tyria for all this time and have shared their technology on warpgates with the entire rest of the races and the world at large, but you can't have them share their cube-turret technology with the engineers? MOST OF WHICH ARE ASURA??? Like, come on. It's time to upgrade the turrets in damage, health AND their models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan.9035 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Healing turret still best heal. Also why the hell you want ai controlled stationary turret to be viable. Go play renegade spirits oh wait they garbage too. Or maybe you want them to be movable like spirit weapons and gyros oh wait thats garbage too. You want necro pets? I prefer no ai in my classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miriforst.1290 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"Milan.9035" said: > Healing turret still best heal. Also why the hell you want ai controlled stationary turret to be viable. Go play renegade spirits oh wait they garbage too. Or maybe you want them to be movable like spirit weapons and gyros oh wait thats garbage too. You want necro pets? I prefer no ai in my classes. Good to have them be replaced then. Cos i see no reason to strive for false options. I mean it was doomed to fail from the beginning but i remember them justifying the limited build customization from gw1 by saying that it meant less false options. Bad design is bad design and should be intervened on and not swept under the rug. And even renegade spirits have their gimmick uses compared to turrets, building some healingpower and suddenly they are a lot more interesting. But beating turrets in usefulness isn't exactly the grandest award there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"Milan.9035" said: > Healing turret still best heal. Also why the hell you want ai controlled stationary turret to be viable. Go play renegade spirits oh wait they garbage too. Or maybe you want them to be movable like spirit weapons and gyros oh wait thats garbage too. You want necro pets? I prefer no ai in my classes. Gyros aren't garbage like turrets unless you have been out of the loop of recent updates to scrapper. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"Seffen.2875" said: > They are not made for this mode. Which mode are they made for? Asking for a friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan.9035 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said: > > @"Milan.9035" said: > > Healing turret still best heal. Also why the hell you want ai controlled stationary turret to be viable. Go play renegade spirits oh wait they garbage too. Or maybe you want them to be movable like spirit weapons and gyros oh wait thats garbage too. You want necro pets? I prefer no ai in my classes. > > Gyros aren't garbage like turrets unless you have been out of the loop of recent updates to scrapper. D: Yea they are not garbage but they still are. There 8s no need for them to be ai. Why not just make them an aura around you. Function gyro is a perfect example. All gyro should be like that. Just float above your shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaruselka.5943 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 "Engy...useless in wvw /spvp." There, I fixed it for you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzet.3614 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"Jaruselka.5943" said: > "Engy...useless in wvw /spvp." > > There, I fixed it for you.. sad but true, at least scrapper can easily solo whole camps if theres no enemy players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 > @"Milan.9035" said: > > @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said: > > > @"Milan.9035" said: > > > Healing turret still best heal. Also why the hell you want ai controlled stationary turret to be viable. Go play renegade spirits oh wait they garbage too. Or maybe you want them to be movable like spirit weapons and gyros oh wait thats garbage too. You want necro pets? I prefer no ai in my classes. > > > > Gyros aren't garbage like turrets unless you have been out of the loop of recent updates to scrapper. D: > > Yea they are not garbage but they still are. There 8s no need for them to be ai. Why not just make them an aura around you. Function gyro is a perfect example. All gyro should be like that. Just float above your shoulder. That would make things a little worse in a way. The sneak gyro if pinned to you, the enemy knows exactly where u going to. In its current state, you can run in/out of its stealth range and can fool the enemy if they didn't take the gyro out first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzet.3614 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 > @"Sleepwalker.1398" said: > > @"Milan.9035" said: > > > @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said: > > > > @"Milan.9035" said: > > > > Healing turret still best heal. Also why the hell you want ai controlled stationary turret to be viable. Go play renegade spirits oh wait they garbage too. Or maybe you want them to be movable like spirit weapons and gyros oh wait thats garbage too. You want necro pets? I prefer no ai in my classes. > > > > > > Gyros aren't garbage like turrets unless you have been out of the loop of recent updates to scrapper. D: > > > > Yea they are not garbage but they still are. There 8s no need for them to be ai. Why not just make them an aura around you. Function gyro is a perfect example. All gyro should be like that. Just float above your shoulder. > > That would make things a little worse in a way. > The sneak gyro if pinned to you, the enemy knows exactly where u going to. > In its current state, you can run in/out of its stealth range and can fool the enemy if they didn't take the gyro out first. eh stealth gyro's the only gyro that benefits from the erratic movement, bomb gyro being the one most affected by it negatively because it has a delay when it spawns and then it starts chasing target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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