CptAurellian.9537 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Walhalla.5473" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > But if I type "healer" I end up missing a druid so then I need to type "druid" again. > > > > Nah, since most people who heal are druids chances are high that you'll get a druid when typing "healer". Also when you already have one druid, the other healer can be anything so you don't miss a druid on any fight that isn't Xera. > > But if I need druid why would I type "healer"? That's not the point of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"CptAurellian.9537" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Walhalla.5473" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > But if I type "healer" I end up missing a druid so then I need to type "druid" again. > > > > > > Nah, since most people who heal are druids chances are high that you'll get a druid when typing "healer". Also when you already have one druid, the other healer can be anything so you don't miss a druid on any fight that isn't Xera. > > > > But if I need druid why would I type "healer"? > > That's not the point of this thread. The point of this thread is inconsistent. OP writes about druid as its only contribution is healing. But druid provides buffs no other spec can provide. So we end up in 2 situations: 1) You have a druid and you want (another) healer - why would you type druid req in your LFG to begin with? 2) You don't have druid so you look for one. Why would you not type druid in your LFG in such situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"CptAurellian.9537" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Walhalla.5473" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > But if I type "healer" I end up missing a druid so then I need to type "druid" again. > > > > > > > > Nah, since most people who heal are druids chances are high that you'll get a druid when typing "healer". Also when you already have one druid, the other healer can be anything so you don't miss a druid on any fight that isn't Xera. > > > > > > But if I need druid why would I type "healer"? > > > > That's not the point of this thread. > > The point of this thread is inconsistent. OP writes about druid as its only contribution is healing. But druid provides buffs no other spec can provide. So we end up in 2 situations: > > 1) You have a druid and you want (another) healer - why would you type druid req in your LFG to begin with? > 2) You don't have druid so you look for one. Why would you not type druid in your LFG in such situation? And thats not whats happening hence why OP made this thread, people type lf 1 druid out of habit even if they already have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"CptAurellian.9537" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Walhalla.5473" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > But if I type "healer" I end up missing a druid so then I need to type "druid" again. > > > > > > > > > > Nah, since most people who heal are druids chances are high that you'll get a druid when typing "healer". Also when you already have one druid, the other healer can be anything so you don't miss a druid on any fight that isn't Xera. > > > > > > > > But if I need druid why would I type "healer"? > > > > > > That's not the point of this thread. > > > > The point of this thread is inconsistent. OP writes about druid as its only contribution is healing. But druid provides buffs no other spec can provide. So we end up in 2 situations: > > > > 1) You have a druid and you want (another) healer - why would you type druid req in your LFG to begin with? > > 2) You don't have druid so you look for one. Why would you not type druid in your LFG in such situation? > > And thats not whats happening hence why OP made this thread, people type lf 1 druid out of habit even if they already have one. It's a L2P issue as requesting 2nd druid when single one already covers 10-man group is pointless. But from what OP wrote it comes out as a PSA to acknowledge and invite other builds he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Darkblight.1673 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Reading this thread is painful, most of the people responding either haven't read the OP question properly or have missed the point and misunderstood it entirely. There are two groups of players in the LFG panel, the casual group just after a support player (any class on a heal spec) and the die hard meta group who only want meta support (druid). Both of these groups follow the same convention of typing "druid" in their LFG message when they are looking for a support player. The fact that the word "druid" in LFG has become synonymous with any healing spec is the core of the issue here. **The observation**-_everyone in LFG puts "druid" whether they are actually looking for a druid or whether they are merely seeking any support build._ If the OP joins a casual group they actually don't mind that he's not a druid, they only wanted support. However, if he joins a meta group, he gets yelled at and kicked. He has no way to tell which group is which, they both LFG for "Druid". **The issue** -_OP doesn't want to get yelled at for playing a completely viable (yet non-meta) support build and would like to identify which groups are more flexible in this matter_ If the casual group advertised that they were looking for "Heal" instead of "Druid" in the same way people would advertise for "dps" or "pdps" or "cdps" when looking for any damage, power, or condi spec, then OP would always join these groups and could avoid the meta groups because these groups would still be advertising for "Druid". Everybody wins here, the casual groups would get responses from druids, heal tempests, Ventari revs etc. while the meta groups would only get responses from druids. **The solution**- _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_ Unfortunately, as has been mentioned previously this is unlikely to happen, you're asking a community to willingly change a habit that has developed over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpheSOSIayer.6370 Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > Reading this thread is painful, most of the people responding either haven't read the OP question properly or have missed the point and misunderstood it entirely. > > There are two groups of players in the LFG panel, the casual group just after a support player (any class on a heal spec) and the die hard meta group who only want meta support (druid). Both of these groups follow the same convention of typing "druid" in their LFG message when they are looking for a support player. The fact that the word "druid" in LFG has become synonymous with any healing spec is the core of the issue here. > **The observation**-_everyone in LFG puts "druid" whether they are actually looking for a druid or whether they are merely seeking any support build._ > > If the OP joins a casual group they actually don't mind that he's not a druid, they only wanted support. However, if he joins a meta group, he gets yelled at and kicked. He has no way to tell which group is which, they both LFG for "Druid". > **The issue** -_OP doesn't want to get yelled at for playing a completely viable (yet non-meta) support build and would like to identify which groups are more flexible in this matter_ > > If the casual group advertised that they were looking for "Heal" instead of "Druid" in the same way people would advertise for "dps" or "pdps" or "cdps" when looking for any damage, power, or condi spec, then OP would always join these groups and could avoid the meta groups because these groups would still be advertising for "Druid". > Everybody wins here, the casual groups would get responses from druids, heal tempests, Ventari revs etc. while the meta groups would only get responses from druids. > **The solution**- _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_ > > Unfortunately, as has been mentioned previously this is unlikely to happen, you're asking a community to willingly change a habit that has developed over time. > This, is exactly what I mean. You are correct with your last statement, but I think starting a discussion about it is still better than doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. Similar problem as the Op have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > Similar problem as the Op have. Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. Edit If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > Edit > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > Edit > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. Edit Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokeenoppa.5384 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Ppl just want to argue right? :D Suggestion was perfectly clear. If ur group needs 2 healers, you can type 1 druid 1 healer in lfg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > Edit > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > Edit > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > Edit > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > Edit > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? thats what this thread was all about. ( hint it makes you wrong yes I know how hard that is to admit) You havent stated that in your posts ever only said that support can mean tank too since chrono gives boons =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > Edit > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > Edit > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco.9480 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 i join as condi druid on purpose so people will have harder time to survive and i'll outdps chronos for the lolz. people want druid cuz of spotter, spirits ,might, goe and cc. that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > Edit > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 > @"Draco.9480" said: > i join as condi druid on purpose so people will have harder time to survive and i'll outdps chronos for the lolz. people want druid cuz of spotter, spirits ,might, goe and cc. that's it. If it works great more power to you if it dont might get kicked for not keeping the health up on your group mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > Edit > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco.9480 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Draco.9480" said: > > i join as condi druid on purpose so people will have harder time to survive and i'll outdps chronos for the lolz. people want druid cuz of spotter, spirits ,might, goe and cc. that's it. > > If it works great more power to you if it dont might get kicked for not keeping the health up on your group mate. well it's not problem to heal, the problem is people do low level gameplay mistakes and will blame the druid. so i force people to play better and heal 'emselves :DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. Apparently you dont understand they most of the first 4 lines in said post if you only want a druid and no other healer in your group then feel free to continue using "druid". EpheSOSIayer.6370 said " As a player which play heal renegade/herald a lot it is always a mess to find a group. After the latest balance patch there are about 50% of the commanders (based on my experience) which don't care about which healer they get. The problem here is that those commanders wrote "druid" instead of "heal" in their LFG anyways. " How do those lines say anything about looking for tank or dps its purely about healers hence why we speak about healers here. If you wanna make a new thread and talk about people being precise when looking for dps or tank/boon share roles feel free to do so mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Godrik.5841 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 > @"Raizel.8175" said: > The problem is that druid brings unmatched (and unique) offensive and defensive support in spirits, spotter, etc. That's why most people want a druid as healer. This is true so you really only need 1 In your group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Asdasd.6194 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 The Druid class was designed to be a top healer, this is why Druid's whole kit revolves around Celestial avatar being a state where you have versatile healing skills, admitetly they do have a case of "too much utility" but this was a byproduct of base Ranger already having access to the spirits and pets for cc/cleanse/heal. Also a lot of the healers you list are more of a gimmick, we had a healer renegade and his healing was very slow to the point where people were dying, we tried out healing Scrapper with the medkit updates but healing was still on the lower side,also the fact that the medkit range is just a cone in front of you doesnt make it easier to heal everyone,healing tempest i like but his healing skills are limited to the main heal shout, water staff 3 , overload water and a small regen on staff 5, staff 3 and 5 have quite a big cooldownd and dont burst heal as much as druid,his condi cleanse though is far superror to druid's , havent tried healing Firebrand but i would assume that problems would start to occur when the pages to the second book run out,receive the light can heal everyone in a cone in frontof you but it is a one time thing before going on cooldown, it isnt THAT much of a matter than Druid can do everything but a matter of the other classes being underwhelming at being healers, problems like mentioned above include small range of effect,limited healing skills on high cooldown,small healing percentages. Instead of having a look at improving other classes and elites as healers Arenanet seems fixated on gutting druid,hoping people will get discouraged and move on to other healer classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 > @"Linken.6345" said: > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Linken.6345" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Remus Darkblight.1673" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The solution - _if you want a druid put "Druid" in the LFG, **if you just want a support build, druid included, then put "Heal" in the LFG_** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. Boonchrono is a support build and it's not made for healing by default. Your "solution" provides even more confusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never seen anyone look for boonchrono in the lfg tho, maybe you should tell people to do that aswell? > > > > > > > > > > > Since people now search for chrono and get mad when dps chronos join. > > > > > > > > > > > Similar problem as the Op have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but typing "healer" and expecting support build is exactly same problem you descibe with people asking for "chrono" and receiving dps chrono instead of boon one. If we want people to communicate precisely you shouldn't offer an unprecise solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both heal and tank are support so typing heal or druid, if you need someone to heal support is warrented I dont think a single support chrono would in a million years think their heal from wells would make them a possible healer your grasping at straws here. > > > > > > > > > If someone want chrono they type chrono or chrono-tank usualy. I have never seen a druid or healer join when thats in the lfg either. > > > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > > > If you want to be precise you would have to ask anet to expand the lfg text window. > > > > > > > > > Since people would have to type, lf1 healer revenant/renegade, healing firebrand, druid or auramancer (+1 druid). > > > > > > > > > I would think that the iq of the community is high enough that lf1 heal (+1 druid) if two is needed instead of the above is more then enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not at all, but OP's suggestion only limits LFG to healer oriented builds which solves nothing if you are looking for non-heal support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just be precise, fractal people can do this, so can do raiders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its if the raid group only need healer and dont mind if they get a revenant/elementalist/druid or guardian healer and still out of habit type lf druid like they have always done. > > > > > > > They are asking if said group dont really need a second druid to instead type heal. > > > > > > > No were in the OP were said group looking for anything else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since fractals are 5 man content most groups will want druid in their team so they search for that, but 10 man content dont need 2 druids on most bosses anymore. > > > > > > > Edit > > > > > > > Changed wording to avoid infraction due to possible personal attack. > > > > > > > And the OP never once say that lfg should only be for healing classes from now on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know why you want so hard to prove me wrong (hint: you can't). I want people to be precise just as much as you. Difference is I'm not accepting a solution that doesn't make anything more precise, it just moves the problem to other areas. > > > > > > > > > > Ok if team is looking for 1 healer only dont need a second druid how do it make it less precise too type heal to get any of the 4 healing classes instead of druid as people do now? > > > > > > > > This is the only situation when you would type healer. Not support, not druid. Just healer. Remember it also implicates that healing power is only thing you expect from that player. > > > > > > > > > > Have you read the OP thats exactly what the op asks for. > > > And no healers do more then heal in this game this aint wow. > > > Same as tanks do more then just position boss so group can avoid damage. > > > > I read it multiple times and this thread gets more confusing the more you go through it. > > Apparently you dont understand they most of the first 4 lines in said post > > if you only want a druid and no other healer in your group then feel free to continue using "druid". > EpheSOSIayer.6370 said > " > As a player which play heal renegade/herald a lot it is always a mess to find a group. After the latest balance patch there are about 50% of the commanders (based on my experience) which don't care about which healer they get. The problem here is that those commanders wrote "druid" instead of "heal" in their LFG anyways. > " > > How do those lines say anything about looking for tank or dps its purely about healers hence why we speak about healers here. > If you wanna make a new thread and talk about people being precise when looking for dps or tank/boon share roles feel free to do so mate. Why am I quoted multiple times in your message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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