Pirindolo.9427 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 IMO, hammer is in need of a complete overhaul across all classes that can use it to make it useable at the very least, maybe as a strong CC or mele AOE weapon. Does anyone ever use it as an everyday weapon in fractals, dungeons, or even open world PVE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I use Hammer on a couple of characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hammer is pretty good on a revenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchimist.4738 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hammer on Guardian is a solide weapon, it's also great on Scrapper, it could use some tuning on Warrior, and it's a great weapon in WvW for Revenant, admittedly not anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirindolo.9427 Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Yeh, I remember seeing some power revenants using hammer in the old times, but since there are no power revenants alive now... I haven´t seen any player in open PVE, fractals or dungeons in the last whole year using a hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I love my hammer scrapper. Can't touch this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Really disappointed they didn't sort out the Hammer-specific Grandmaster Trait for Warriors. It is utterly pointless and even counter-intuitive (adds Confusion to a baseline Power weapon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Aren't there only four classes that use hammer, and three of them are in a pretty good spot? I use hammer on guardian a lot. Revenant uses hammer as a ranged power weapon, and it hits pretty hard, and has good ranged defense. Scrapper camps hammer, so seems pretty good for them. Warrior could probably use some help, I don't know, I never use it on that class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.5839 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 > @"Alchimist.4738" said: > Hammer on Guardian is a solide weapon, it's also great on Scrapper, it could use some tuning on Warrior, and it's a great weapon in WvW for Revenant, admittedly not anywhere else. It is just sooooo slow on guard. I always get annoyed when I use it. Really wish it would swing a tad faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexZero.7910 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 They need to revert scrapper's hammer imo. So many changes that feel like they were knee jerk direct at PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khisanth.2948 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 > @"Oglaf.1074" said: > Really disappointed they didn't sort out the Hammer-specific Grandmaster Trait for Warriors. It is utterly pointless and even counter-intuitive (adds Confusion to a baseline Power weapon). That part doesn't matter much but they should split the damage buff into conditional and unconditional portions. Maybe +10% and +20% vs CC'ed enemies(non-stacking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanoEliteSixSixSix.8935 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 The hammer's a cosmetic item? Odd, my Warrior's been using one to kill stuff for the past five years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorudo.9054 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 the scrapper surely needs an improvement, i never use it because it sucks. even the renegade is a powerhouse compared to the scrapper.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragga the Eighty Third.60 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I use hammer on a ranking-up warrior in PVE. Can't give stats for damage or anything, but it's good fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Templar.4589 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I use hammer with my revenant all the time. It's fun and effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > Aren't there only four classes that use hammer, and three of them are in a pretty good spot? I use hammer on guardian a lot. Revenant uses hammer as a ranged power weapon, and it hits pretty hard, and has good ranged defense. Scrapper camps hammer, so seems pretty good for them. Warrior could probably use some help, I don't know, I never use it on that class. Honestly Hammer Rev sucks IMO. Its only useful since its our only 1200 unit weapon. Change Bow to that or give another ranged 1200 unit weapon and Hammer goes bye bye. Its so slow and weak it cant even tag some of the acid wurms needed for the Beetle Mount before the zerg kills it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJH.2879 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I've always loved hammer on warrior, true it hits very slow but this can be countered with a little quickness x2 through trait lines or sigils. It can be a very useful weapon in pve if used correctly with the right stats, traits & equipment. Believe me there was a time I never used it at all, but if you experiment... eventually you'll find something that works with it quite well. I love pancaking foes in pve with it, never gets old! LoL The interrupts are also pretty useful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airdive.2613 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 > @"aspirine.5839" said: > > @"Alchimist.4738" said: > > Hammer on Guardian is a solide weapon, it's also great on Scrapper, it could use some tuning on Warrior, and it's a great weapon in WvW for Revenant, admittedly not anywhere else. > > It is just sooooo slow on guard. I always get annoyed when I use it. Really wish it would swing a tad faster. Luckily, every guardian has access to one particular elite shout. I won't spoil it, but I promise if you read its description it won't disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Speaking purely from PvE, hammer is only viable for reverant, and only in ow. you can use it on warrior, gurdian and engi, but why punish yourself that bad ☹️. PvP, it is okaish for gurdian, good for rev in wvw and a maybe on scrapper. Overall, it is a terrible weapon with limited use ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother.1504 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 > @"NanoEliteSixSixSix.8935" said: > The hammer's a cosmetic item? Odd, my Warrior's been using one to kill stuff for the past five years or so. Mine too. No no they are right warrior hammer definitely needs buffs. ? Maybe increase damage by 20% and add a daze to the auto attack. Perhaps increase the radius of the f1 skill to 1200. Then maybe, just maybe hammer will be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirindolo.9427 Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 > @"otto.5684" said: > Speaking purely from PvE, hammer is only viable for reverant, and only in ow. you can use it on warrior, gurdian and engi, but why punish yourself that bad ☹️. > > PvP, it is okaish for gurdian, good for rev in wvw and a maybe on scrapper. > > Overall, it is a terrible weapon with limited use ability. Exactly my point. You can use it if you like it, for fun, for cosmetic reasons,... but never for dps, which is far beyond so many other weapon choices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 > @"Pirindolo.9427" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > > Speaking purely from PvE, hammer is only viable for reverant, and only in ow. you can use it on warrior, gurdian and engi, but why punish yourself that bad ☹️. > > > > PvP, it is okaish for gurdian, good for rev in wvw and a maybe on scrapper. > > > > Overall, it is a terrible weapon with limited use ability. > > Exactly my point. You can use it if you like it, for fun, for cosmetic reasons,... but never for dps, which is far beyond so many other weapon choices I 100% agree with you. Hammer is one of the poorest weapons in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalButt.5708 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I don't use hammer for any other reason than that it rules to clonk stuff with a piece of material the size of a boat engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alga.6498 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 I love hammers, I use hammer for all the professions who are able to equip it! I hope a new profession will learn how to use the Hammer in our 3rd expansion, :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner.4621 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 > @"Pirindolo.9427" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > > Speaking purely from PvE, hammer is only viable for reverant, and only in ow. you can use it on warrior, gurdian and engi, but why punish yourself that bad ☹️. > > > > PvP, it is okaish for gurdian, good for rev in wvw and a maybe on scrapper. > > > > Overall, it is a terrible weapon with limited use ability. > > Exactly my point. You can use it if you like it, for fun, for cosmetic reasons,... but never for dps, which is far beyond so many other weapon choices Hammer is considered almost mandatory on war in WvW, and is one of the "better" weapons for guard for up-keeping 100% protection uptime on itself and its party. Not every weapon has to be good for every class in every game mode. It's not even the only weapon that suffers from this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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