Stand The Wall.6987 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 … would it cause more harm then good? With all the boon strip out there its hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I like dougnuts...but it will never come back as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StabbersTheThird.6053 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 None of your options state what would happen. There is too much boon rip/steal/conversion EVERYWHERE for one stack (I did a google thing, hope I don't sound stupid here) that doesn't cleanse on a cc to be better. Besides that, my assumption is that the initial adjustment patch would in fact nerf every option of stability (Dodge roll for it is gone, util/elite cooldown up, traits reworked) in fear of it being too strong. Especially in WvW where there are just so many more build options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steki.1478 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Old stability requires changes of boon itself and changes of weapon skills that provide stability (firebrand just has too many). Too much effort for dead game mode. No change means that people need to git gud and focus more on game play and less on forum complaining (not pointing at OP, speaking in general). Again, firebrand has too many stabs, people just need to learn to play with those (and it's not even the only meta class that brings aoe stab). After all, combat should always favor offensive mechanics over defensive ones, otherwise we'll have 20 minute fights with no outcome. At the end of the day, devs will pay more attention to chocolate glazed donut than this kind of posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyShroud.2865 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 The old stab was deem superior because at that point of time, there isn't massive amount of boonstripping. Thus, any forms of hard cc will find its use quite limited. Now, we have so many boonstrip thus it wouldn't make a great difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archmagus.7249 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I'd camp on FT as scrapper with juggernaut and go wherever I please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 There was a time when people yelled boonstrip they meant things like mesmer gs3... Yeah. It doesnt work like that anymore. But what old stab are we refering to? Pre stacks or pre icd or pre concentration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > There was a time when people yelled boonstrip they meant things like mesmer gs3... Yeah. It doesnt work like that anymore. > > But what old stab are we refering to? Pre stacks or pre icd or pre concentration? pre stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 An Army of Scourges with infinite stab? Ohhh Lord Save us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werdernator.6105 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Wouldn't make a difference at all, since it's neither timeout nor lack of stacks that makes your stability disappear but boonrip, which has been massive since PoF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 hehe scourge train, sb bubble train. @.@ gg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryorion.9532 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Boon corrupt/removal is too easy to pull off nowadays. Boon application is also overtuned af. Those two extremes balance each other out, but toning down both would make gameplay much more healthy, maintaining the balance :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithranArkanere.8957 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 What we need is boon removal that removes limited stacks, not the whole stack. So a strong boon removal with a long recharge could take something like 10-25 stacks, but a weak spammable or pulsing one would only take something like 3-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 > @"MithranArkanere.8957" said: > What we need is boon removal that removes limited stacks, not the whole stack. So a strong boon removal with a long recharge could take something like 10-25 stacks, but a weak spammable or pulsing one would only take something like 3-5. Boon strip, yes. Boon corrupt is different. Functionally, I wonder if the boon that is corrupted could exist with the condition it applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 As it is, whenever CC is dropped on a group, it's almost always met with "immune" the entire fight. It would be a horrific change if it went back to the way it used to be. If it did, then at minimum all blocks, reflects, and invuln's would have to be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > … would it cause more harm then good? With all the boon strip out there its hard to tell. This is so incredibly ironic... They nerfed it because of WvW exclusively... And now it's WvW players complaining they want it back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 > @"ReaverKane.7598" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > … would it cause more harm then good? With all the boon strip out there its hard to tell. > > This is so incredibly ironic... They nerfed it because of WvW exclusively... And now it's WvW players complaining they want it back... what are you talking about? I haven't heard anyone complain about stab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizhas.8536 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 In my opinion it would be a good change. Yes, before the change stability was so powerfull due to the lack of counters (boon stripping). Back then the change was needed because stability basically made you inmune to any kind of CC. Nowdays there are boon removals everywhere and that makes that even if you get 5 stacks of stab you can lose them all at once making them absolutely useless. On top of that we have winds of disenchantment skill which makes you 100% sure ready for being CCed. Leavign this last argument apart, right now, its better to add 1 stack of stab every 1-2 seconds than stacking stabs so even if i think it would not be a solution, changing it back it would make things easier in zerg ws zerg enviroment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > @"ReaverKane.7598" said: > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > … would it cause more harm then good? With all the boon strip out there its hard to tell. > > > > This is so incredibly ironic... They nerfed it because of WvW exclusively... And now it's WvW players complaining they want it back... > > what are you talking about? I haven't heard anyone complain about stab. No, you're just inquiring about wanting it changed, and the majority of people voted to have it changed, not because they have complaints about it, but because it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 > @"ReaverKane.7598" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > @"ReaverKane.7598" said: > > > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > > > … would it cause more harm then good? With all the boon strip out there its hard to tell. > > > > > > This is so incredibly ironic... They nerfed it because of WvW exclusively... And now it's WvW players complaining they want it back... > > > > what are you talking about? I haven't heard anyone complain about stab. > > No, you're just inquiring about wanting it changed, and the majority of people voted to have it changed, not because they have complaints about it, but because it's fine. > oh lol I didn't even notice the majority. haven't looked at the results in some time. anyway relax its just some dumb poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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