Talindra.4958 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I'd call that.. Xiuquatl See-you-kwa-tal Xiu (sounds like small) Quatl is a type of snake-dragon creature ? Green is quite a spiritual colour like Jade green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Shu-ka-tl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithranArkanere.8957 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 The name is just another english transliteration of "[Xiuhcoatl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiuhcoatl "Xiuhcoatl")", which is the Aztec name of a mythological snake with wings and feathers. And since that'll make the name pronounce in [Nahuatl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Nahuatl "Nahuatl "), it has to be close to SHE-UH-COO-AT-L, or more exactly [ʃiʍˈkoːaːt͡ɬ] if you can read IPA. In other words, like "Tequatl" but with "She-uh" instead "Te". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game of Bones.8975 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I am the [Walrus]( "Walrus")]! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 > @"Game of Bones.8975" said: > I am the [Walrus]( "Walrus")]! Koo Koo Ka Choo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 shi-u-ktl http://www.native-languages.org/maya_guide.htm since it is an obvious mayan name, that should help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashabhi.1365 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 My daughter's wife (a linguistics specialist) pronounced it "shuh-KWAT-el." She said that the correct formal pronunciation was probably closer to "she-uh-ko-WAT-el" but in casual speaking the first third would be merged into a dipthong because people are relatively lazy with the way they speak. So, I think I'll go with that... much easier for an old lady like me to say that way... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoid.2568 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 tsi-quat- L If the X is pronounced as in chinese cantonese I think it's chi-quat-L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamfast.8719 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I pronounce it "sep-tur". That seems to work well enough for most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlagueParade.7942 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Gesundheit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talindra.4958 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > shi-u-ktl > > http://www.native-languages.org/maya_guide.htm > > since it is an obvious mayan name, that should help i don't think it is mayan :P the creature looks more eastern mythology creatures update: ah i just did a google search on mayan myth creatures.. maybe it is.. argh.. we need dev to explain & reveal how she/he come up with this lol i am going nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talindra.4958 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"MithranArkanere.8957" said: > The name is just another english transliteration of "[Xiuhcoatl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiuhcoatl "Xiuhcoatl")", which is the Aztec name of a mythological snake with wings and feathers. > > And since that'll make the name pronounce in [Nahuatl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Nahuatl "Nahuatl "), it has to be close to SHE-UH-COO-AT-L, or more exactly [ʃiʍˈkoːaːt͡ɬ] if you can read IPA. > > In other words, like "Tequatl" but with "She-uh" instead "Te". oh i only saw this post..... thanks :) that's come very close to the name! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"Talindra.4958" said: > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > shi-u-ktl > > > > http://www.native-languages.org/maya_guide.htm > > > > since it is an obvious mayan name, that should help > > i don't think it is mayan :P the creature looks more eastern mythology creatures > > update: ah i just did a google search on mayan myth creatures.. maybe it is.. argh.. we need dev to explain & reveal how she/he come up with this lol i am going nuts I do not know if the creature is mayan, but the name is. Same with Tequatl for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eekasqueak.7850 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > @"Talindra.4958" said: > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > shi-u-ktl > > > > > > http://www.native-languages.org/maya_guide.htm > > > > > > since it is an obvious mayan name, that should help > > > > i don't think it is mayan :P the creature looks more eastern mythology creatures > > > > update: ah i just did a google search on mayan myth creatures.. maybe it is.. argh.. we need dev to explain & reveal how she/he come up with this lol i am going nuts > > I do not know if the creature is mayan, but the name is. Same with Tequatl for example Thought Tequatl was Aztec, also the Mayans died out before the colonization of the Americas so where would you get pronunciation from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseofGilead.8907 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > @"Talindra.4958" said: > > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > > shi-u-ktl > > > > > > > > http://www.native-languages.org/maya_guide.htm > > > > > > > > since it is an obvious mayan name, that should help > > > > > > i don't think it is mayan :P the creature looks more eastern mythology creatures > > > > > > update: ah i just did a google search on mayan myth creatures.. maybe it is.. argh.. we need dev to explain & reveal how she/he come up with this lol i am going nuts > > > > I do not know if the creature is mayan, but the name is. Same with Tequatl for example > > Thought Tequatl was Aztec, also the Mayans died out before the colonization of the Americas so where would you get pronunciation from? The spelling here definitely seems to be under the Nahuatl (Aztec) umbrella. But the Mayan language family still exists and is still spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > @"Talindra.4958" said: > > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > > shi-u-ktl > > > > > > > > http://www.native-languages.org/maya_guide.htm > > > > > > > > since it is an obvious mayan name, that should help > > > > > > i don't think it is mayan :P the creature looks more eastern mythology creatures > > > > > > update: ah i just did a google search on mayan myth creatures.. maybe it is.. argh.. we need dev to explain & reveal how she/he come up with this lol i am going nuts > > > > I do not know if the creature is mayan, but the name is. Same with Tequatl for example > > Thought Tequatl was Aztec, also the Mayans died out before the colonization of the Americas so where would you get pronunciation from? I think there are still thousands (millions?) of people who speak mayan languages. But now that you say it, I am not exactly sure on the difference between aztec and mayan languages, but since they are from roughly the same area, they are probably related to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholaLord.2630 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Translates to ugly sceptre that looks like a fancy king toads sceptre ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzurag.7506 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I simply spell it Xiuquatl, it's easier as long as there's no actual official pronunciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 i pronounce it she-oo-kwa-tel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGirl.2370 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I thought it's Zee-quatl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Gaile Gray.6029 Posted September 16, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted September 16, 2018 This inspired quite a lively conversation with the Narrative Team, and the opinions vary on its pronunciation: Tom Abernathy: I think it’s something along the lines of “Cchheew-KAHT-uhl.” Where the X is a back-of-the-throat gutteral pronounced like the Hebrew “ch” in “challa bread” or “Chanukkah.” (He added later, "It’s hard to transliterate that sound. It’s kinda between cchh and sshh." Tom also mentioned the origin was closer to Mexican-American Spanish than Spain Spanish. Bobby Stein: I don’t know if this is accurate, but one [source]( "source") I found pronounces xiu as “shoe”. Xel (as in Xel-Ha) is often [pronounced]( "pronounced") “shell-ha”. So…maybe it’s “shoe-kwat-ul”? The question now is: How will it be pronounced in four languages, when localized for the game? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 If it helps, I pronounce it whatever way I feel like to myself. ick-quatl. If you cannot pronounce it, just make those letters silent ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronos.6532 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Shzi-yu-kwat-ul if it's Chinese, zi-yu-kwat-ul otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batel.9206 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Zhee-oo-kwat-ul? I think? "Little bitty flying baby snake so kitten adorable" is also good, though a bit of a mouthful... :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cevlakohn.2165 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > @"Eekasqueak.7850" said: > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > > @"Talindra.4958" said: > > > > > @"Malediktus.9250" said: > > > > > shi-u-ktl > > > > > > > > > > http://www.native-languages.org/maya_guide.htm > > > > > > > > > > since it is an obvious mayan name, that should help > > > > > > > > i don't think it is mayan :P the creature looks more eastern mythology creatures > > > > > > > > update: ah i just did a google search on mayan myth creatures.. maybe it is.. argh.. we need dev to explain & reveal how she/he come up with this lol i am going nuts > > > > > > I do not know if the creature is mayan, but the name is. Same with Tequatl for example > > > > Thought Tequatl was Aztec, also the Mayans died out before the colonization of the Americas so where would you get pronunciation from? > > I think there are still thousands (millions?) of people who speak mayan languages. But now that you say it, I am not exactly sure on the difference between aztec and mayan languages, but since they are from roughly the same area, they are probably related to each other. You don't have to wonder: they are not, at least not demonstrably. Nahuatl belongs to the Uto-Aztecan language family, most of the members of which are/were spoken farther to the north: Ute, Comanche, Paiute, Hopi, and so on. Mayan comprises its own language family, separate and (as far as is known) unrelated. It's possible that you might find some sources that say they belong to the same superfamily, such as Joseph Greenberg's "Amerind" hypothesis, or some other macrofamily from the days of Franz Boas and Edward Sapir, when Americanist linguists were much "lumpier" than they are now. But modern linguists tend to be skeptical about these claims. Also, no, "Xiuquatl" is definitely not Mayan (or fake-Mayan): it is rather clearly supposed to be (fake-)Nahuatl. You can tell because of the -tl ending, which is commonly found terminating nouns in the Nahuatl language, and *not* in the Mayan languages. If I recall correctly, it's essentially a "non-possessed" marker... don't quote me on that though :). The alternative of course is to just say it's a made-up fantasy video game name, and its pronunciation has nothing to do with real-world languages. *If* however one appeals to real languages, it's better to have one's facts be correct :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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