Klipso.8653 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 So I just ran through the Legacy story mission on my WvW Guardian and for the life of me I could not pull agro off of Braham. He was just spammed with fear the entire time because I couldn't get any agro... to reiterate, I was on a character with 2,366 toughness and I could not pull agro. I don't know what kind of gear Braham is using, but we are gonna have more problems than his haircut if he's running more toughness than me. This was never an issue on my glass reaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I just killed them quickly. They can’t fear him if they’re dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff.5312 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Why is that a problem? Wasn't he meant to essentially 'tank' for you in that segment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipso.8653 Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 > @"Biff.5312" said: > Why is that a problem? Wasn't he meant to essentially 'tank' for you in that segment? He was supposed to burn webs while we dealt with spiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff.5312 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 > @"Klipso.8653" said: > > @"Biff.5312" said: > > Why is that a problem? Wasn't he meant to essentially 'tank' for you in that segment? > > He was supposed to burn webs while we dealt with spiders Ah - I don't recall. I didn't really have any problems though, and didn't worry about Braham. I just killed the eggs and then focused on the spider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I dont think you can get aggro from him since he is burning the spider webs, just kick their butts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 > @"Klipso.8653" said: > So I just ran through the Legacy story mission on my WvW Guardian and for the life of me I could not pull agro off of Braham. He was just spammed with fear the entire time because I couldn't get any agro... to reiterate, I was on a character with 2,366 toughness and I could not pull agro. Uhm... you get a **special skill** (right above the 1-5 skills' bar) that you need to use to encourage him so he will lose his fear. Use it, maybe? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipso.8653 Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 > @"Ashantara.8731" said: > > @"Klipso.8653" said: > > So I just ran through the Legacy story mission on my WvW Guardian and for the life of me I could not pull agro off of Braham. He was just spammed with fear the entire time because I couldn't get any agro... to reiterate, I was on a character with 2,366 toughness and I could not pull agro. > > Uhm... you get a **special skill** (right above the 1-5 skills' bar) that you need to use to encourage him so he will lose his fear. Use it, maybe? ;) Yeah I know, but it was almost immediate re-application. Maybe just bad RNG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 > @"Klipso.8653" said: > Yeah I know, but it was almost immediate re-application. Maybe just bad RNG? Most people use a shortcut for the special skill. Mine is "E". I had no trouble to re-apply it immediately if necessary, but usually he doesn't fear again right away unless you can't kill the spiders quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipso.8653 Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 > @"Ashantara.8731" said: > > @"Klipso.8653" said: > > Yeah I know, but it was almost immediate re-application. Maybe just bad RNG? > > Most people use a shortcut for the special skill. Mine is "E". I had no trouble to re-apply it immediately if necessary, but usually he doesn't fear again right away unless you can't kill the spiders quickly. I use V for mine. And probably since I crit for 8 damage on that character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNecrosanct.4028 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 With that much toughness you're unlikely to do a high amount of damage, so maybe you couldn't kill the spiders quick enough. Anyway, you just have to spam that special action key. Using it once is not enough. I had no problems with it either. Finished the fight within the time limit for the achievement to make Braham look good (on a full Viper's character). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Also remember, GW2 does **not** have a unified threat mechanic. Only *some* mobs aggro based on Toughness, so maybe these spiders don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve The Cynic.3217 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > Also remember, GW2 does **not** have a unified threat mechanic. Only *some* mobs aggro based on Toughness, so maybe these spiders don't. I believe that *most* mobs don't aggro on Toughness. I certainly had the impression that it was mostly Raid bosses that did that, and not even all of them. However, most ordinary mobs will aggro on *damage*. And of course dead spiders aren't at all scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 > @"Steve The Cynic.3217" said: > > @"Tanner Blackfeather.6509" said: > > Also remember, GW2 does **not** have a unified threat mechanic. Only *some* mobs aggro based on Toughness, so maybe these spiders don't. > > I believe that *most* mobs don't aggro on Toughness. I certainly had the impression that it was mostly Raid bosses that did that, and not even all of them. However, most ordinary mobs will aggro on *damage*. And of course dead spiders aren't at all scary. I don't think it's ever been confirmed but there seem to be a few different ways enemies 'pick' targets. Some will go for the character with the highest toughness, others for the one doing the most damage, or for the closest character, or it could be a combination of factors. I usually play on a character with 1,000-2,000 toughness (depending on the character), which is relatively high compared to most people and I definitely notice some enemies who go straight for me and will not leave me alone (I've literally been able to lead a champion in circles, through crowds of players doing more damage), but others will seem to completely ignore me no matter what I do and some don't seem to care and will attack anyone, or keep switching between targets. I'm not sure what the priority is for these spiders. Considering they're in a story instance where your job is to keep them off Braham it's even possible they have special programming where they'll go for him over you. But as other people said it doesn't really matter because it's more effective to use the special action skill whenever it comes up to remove his fear and then focus on killing the spiders as quickly as you can. High damage is more important than defence, and AoE is especially useful because individual spiders aren't that tough, but there's a lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Summary: Most WvW gear is pretty useless in PvE, with the exception of Marauder's that some roaming builds use. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 because it would kill the encounter if you could just run around in circles because and win the encounter because you've got toughness on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Spiro.9745 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 This isn't aggro, they go after Braham, it's game design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlinvf.1358 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 > @"Ashantara.8731" said: > Summary: Most WvW gear is pretty useless in PvE, with the exception of Marauder's that some roaming builds use. ;) My WvW gear is Zerkers..... but doesn't feel useless in PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 > @"starlinvf.1358" said: > > @"Ashantara.8731" said: > > Summary: Most WvW gear is pretty useless in PvE, with the exception of Marauder's that some roaming builds use. ;) > > My WvW gear is Zerkers..... but doesn't feel useless in PvE. Alright, Zerkers, another roaming gear. I was talking about WvW squad gear. No one wears Berserker's in a well equipped, well balanced squad. And of course Berserker's isn't useless in PvE :s as it is the main power build stat combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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