Sampson.2403 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Tagging 6 seconds of exhaustion on a grandmaster trait is considered a felony where i come from. Knock it down to 4 seconds and we can all walk away from this like it never even happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jportell.2197 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 That and undo the vigor nerfs. Esp in dueling. Every other class aside from necro has way more vigor uptime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySummer.2568 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 no it doesnt. condi mirage is still meta and braindead to play with or without elusive mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coro.3176 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Absolutely not. It effectively lets you undo poor play (getting hit with a stun in the first place) after the fact and doesn't even cost you a utility or weapon skill. Oh, and you can do it twice in a row with no ICD. Exhaustion is the least they can do to keep it balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteepledHat.1345 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"coro.3176" said: > Absolutely not. It effectively lets you undo poor play (getting hit with a stun in the first place) after the fact and doesn't even cost you a utility or weapon skill. Oh, and you can do it twice in a row with no ICD. Exhaustion is the least they can do to keep it balanced. So I expect to see you posting about all the midtier traits that reward you with various forms of semi-immunity for poor play. Any time now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpass.4236 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coro.3176 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"SteepledHat.1345" said: > > @"coro.3176" said: > > Absolutely not. It effectively lets you undo poor play (getting hit with a stun in the first place) after the fact and doesn't even cost you a utility or weapon skill. Oh, and you can do it twice in a row with no ICD. Exhaustion is the least they can do to keep it balanced. > > So I expect to see you posting about all the midtier traits that reward you with various forms of semi-immunity for poor play. Any time now... I do .. pretty often https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/754958#Comment_754958 https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/750044#Comment_750044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteepledHat.1345 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"coro.3176" said: > > @"SteepledHat.1345" said: > > > @"coro.3176" said: > > > Absolutely not. It effectively lets you undo poor play (getting hit with a stun in the first place) after the fact and doesn't even cost you a utility or weapon skill. Oh, and you can do it twice in a row with no ICD. Exhaustion is the least they can do to keep it balanced. > > > > So I expect to see you posting about all the midtier traits that reward you with various forms of semi-immunity for poor play. Any time now... > > I do .. pretty often > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/754958#Comment_754958 > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/750044#Comment_750044 > Touche, have a thumbs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 since this is a democracy vote for me for next balance team pres and I will fix all woes. all woes everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd > > Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqueFyre.5678 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > since this is a democracy vote for me for next balance team pres and I will fix all woes. > all woes everywhere. All woes? Everywhere? So some QoL fixes for Rev and bug fixes? You get my vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"Sampson.2403" said: > Tagging 6 seconds of exhaustion on a grandmaster trait is considered a felony where i come from. > > Knock it down to 4 seconds and we can all walk away from this like it never even happened. You sound like a shady negotiating mobster and it's 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"BlaqueFyre.5678" said: > > @"Stand The Wall.6987" said: > > since this is a democracy vote for me for next balance team pres and I will fix all woes. > > all woes everywhere. > > All woes? Everywhere? So some QoL fixes for Rev and bug fixes? You get my vote! haha cheers mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"mortrialus.3062" said: > > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > > Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd > > > > Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills > > Deal. Also deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zex Anthon.8673 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd > > Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills Also reduce the evade time to 3/4 s like a normal dodge. And increase the abush window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Nope to OP. I say there been so many crying complainers about it, i say leave it as is. So they can't rant that's the reason mirage is broken & not there own flaky skill's. As predicted same complainers found something else now to complain about mirage now that EM is no longer an issue. Now it's to many clones or de-targeting & Chrono is to op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 > @"Zex Anthon.8673" said: > > @"shadowpass.4236" said: > > Don't allow Mirage to dodge while cc'd > > > > Remove the stunbreak and exhaustion from EM, increase condi clear to 2 per dodge or add 20% cdr on deception skills > > Also reduce the evade time to 3/4 s like a normal dodge. And increase the abush window. Abolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oslaf Beinir.5842 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Why use EM when IH is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 > @"Oslaf Beinir.5842" said: > Why use EM when IH is there? Just the condition cleanse on dodge really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieux P.1238 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 > @"mortrialus.3062" said: > > @"Oslaf Beinir.5842" said: > > Why use EM when IH is there? > > Just the condition cleanse on dodge really. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XECOR.2814 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Half the power and condi damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 > @"Vieux P.1238" said: > > @"mortrialus.3062" said: > > > @"Oslaf Beinir.5842" said: > > > Why use EM when IH is there? > > > > Just the condition cleanse on dodge really. > > No I use it for condi cleanse too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incisorr.9502 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 at this point elusive mind is just an anti-skill and it feels like shit to use it because the only way you do damage as mesmer is with mirage cloak, which costs stamina which means you have less defensive dodges because mirage cloak is used offensively and due to the vigor nerfs (and yes, it's true that every class in the game has better vigor uptime with a few exceptions) and also needing mirage cloak to attack OFFENSIVELY that means you ACTUALLY HAVE LESS DODGES AS A MESMER which isn't a rocket science its common sense but we all know that 99% of the anti-mesmer whine is made by people that don't play or understand mesmer elusive mind needs to go back to 3s exhaustion and even then it would still not be that good but at least a consideration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincolnbeard.1735 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 It just needs eiher Shadowpass suggestion or cleanse one condi and one MIC if you feel 2 condis is too much. Even 3 sec exhaustion is trash if you don't have endurance gain skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson.2403 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 Do I need to call Joe Pesci? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now