otto.5684 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"Liewec.2896" said: > someone needs to let Anet know that RENEGADE IS A THING. > every patch, if revenant are even touched atall its stupid Herald changes > Shiro/Herald is already meta while Renegade remains forgotten by everyone. It is so dead no one cares anymore. They did not make it pvp viable in the last 10 patches. It surely won’t be next patch or the one after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"Liewec.2896" said: > someone needs to let Anet know that RENEGADE IS A THING. > every patch, if revenant are even touched atall its stupid Herald changes > Shiro/Herald is already meta while Renegade remains forgotten by everyone. Anet intentionally keeps certain specs bad so that they have less to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kicast.1459 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"Zenix.6198" said: > > @"Kicast.1459" said: > > > @"Zenix.6198" said: > > > > > Mirages will just play scepter/x + staff and chaos > illusions. Literally nothing changed for the chaos spec....only now you will see them run scepter over axe. > > WHAT ???? > > Because Mirage cloack reduction will not have any impact right ???? > > Yes, It will barely be noticable. > > I don't know in which level you play... either you or me is complete trash in game mechanics understanding. My understanding is that they killed mirage this time. It was already struggling in tournament(out of Meta). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Benchwarmer.3025 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Please give the engineering kits more love. You know, that thing that used to be a staple for Engineers for 3 years, was fun and unique, and then was butchered because purity of purpose. Remember? Anyone? Help! :s :'( :# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBravery.9615 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"dagger dave.5201" said: > If this balance patch took 3 months then I definitely want a job at anet, getting paid to do basically nothing tbh they probably could have prevented the whole layoff thing if they reorgnized their systems team and hired one competent person to do things right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenix.6198 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"Kicast.1459" said: > My understanding is that they killed mirage this time. It was already struggling in tournament(out of Meta). This is such a classic "grasping at straws"-argument. According to other mirage mains, the spec was already killed like 3 or 4 times....yet here we are again. Let me make something clear....just because something isn't winning mAT finals, doesnt mean its bad. I dunno when or how this kind of mentality started, but it is getting really old by now. Cause for whatever reason, the meta apparently, gets defined by a Bo1 match every month....oh and semi-finals / 2nd place / and the entirety of NA doesnt count. What a very convenient argument to use indeed....since that's basically just 5 specs in total. By that logic: DE is trash (meaning that the silent scope nerf was actually unwarranted); Holosmith is trash, Warrior is trash, Daredevil is trash, Core Guard is trash, Reaper is trash ...etc.etc. That what you are saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"otto.5684" said: > > @"apharma.3741" said: > > I for one am going to let them finish off the restructuring before I start dumping on them especially after the lay offs. It's easy to forget that they're real people who do work on this and from rumours they've been a skeleton crew for a while now. This patch was done before the lay offs and restructuring so is what I expected. > > > > Maybe we might see some more focus on GW2 and sorting out the power creeped mess, either way sensible eyes are looking at when the next patch is, what it contains and if it's a step in the right direction. > > I would be very understanding if they told us that they needed more time for the patch. But they only delayed it by one week and that is after 2.5 month of no class balance. The patch itself is significantly underwhelming, and seems mostly to address forums whining, instead of being well thought out and designed. Man, even the written descriptions where out of sync with many of the changes. They delayed it because they probably didn't know who was going to still be around to work, the day it was due was the same day the office was going to be closed and the devs needed time to say goodbye to colleagues. It would be really bad to push a patch when the office is closed, so the next time would have been Thursday/Friday? For consistency I don't mind it delayed for a week. Again this patch was likely done a month ago or at least a lot of the planned changes, well before the lay offs and restructuring back when they had a skeleton crew. Adding more people for 1 week doesn't spontaneously make it suddenly go from almost maintenance to weekly balance patch tweaks heaven. Give them time, see what's next and take it from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kicast.1459 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"Zenix.6198" said: > > @"Kicast.1459" said: > > > My understanding is that they killed mirage this time. It was already struggling in tournament(out of Meta). > > This is such a classic "grasping at straws"-argument. > By that logic: > DE is trash (meaning that the silent scope nerf was actually unwarranted); Holosmith is trash, Warrior is trash, Daredevil is trash, Core Guard is trash, Reaper is trash ...etc.etc. DE, Core Guard are trash indeed Holosmith and Warrior were clearly out of meta pushed out by ranger (like mes). Mes with the changes that are happening are dead. Warrior and Holo ...I don't know yet...they can still comeback with the town done on rangers. And thief as very often is and will remain in a very good place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao.5096 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Well, some bits from me. **Thief** Deadeye is still oneshoting 90% of classes and builds while in stealth. So nothing changed. **Mesmer** Ridiculous sustain for Mirage and 5 clone bug still in play. So nothing changed. **Ranger** Beast build still is tanky af and deals ton of damage. So nothing changed. **Revenant** Didn't tone down the power output. So nothing changed. So, pretty much nothing changes. Skill-less play still in favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"Tao.5096" said: > Well, some bits from me. > > **Thief** > Deadeye is still oneshoting 90% of classes and builds while in stealth. > So nothing changed. > > **Mesmer** > Ridiculous sustain for Mirage and 5 clone bug still in play. > So nothing changed. > > **Ranger** > Beast build still is tanky af and deals ton of damage. > So nothing changed. > > **Revenant** > Didn't tone down the power output. > So nothing changed. > > So, pretty much nothing changes. > Skill-less play still in favor. **Skill level** Nothing changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick.2987 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 > @"Tao.5096" said: > Well, some bits from me. > > **Thief** > Deadeye is still oneshoting 90% of classes and builds while in stealth. > So nothing changed. > > **Mesmer** > Ridiculous sustain for Mirage and 5 clone bug still in play. > So nothing changed. > > **Ranger** > Beast build still is tanky af and deals ton of damage. > So nothing changed. > > **Revenant** > Didn't tone down the power output. > So nothing changed. > > So, pretty much nothing changes. > Skill-less play still in favor. You forgot holo and firebrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadox.7834 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 > @"Tao.5096" said: > Well, some bits from me. > > **Thief** > Deadeye is still oneshoting 90% of classes and builds while in stealth. > So nothing changed. > > **Mesmer** > Ridiculous sustain for Mirage and 5 clone bug still in play. > So nothing changed. > > **Ranger** > Beast build still is tanky af and deals ton of damage. > So nothing changed. > > **Revenant** > Didn't tone down the power output. > So nothing changed. > > So, pretty much nothing changes. > Skill-less play still in favor. 5 clones is not a bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 > @"Tao.5096" said: > Well, some bits from me. > > **Thief** > Deadeye is still oneshoting 90% of classes and builds while in stealth. > So nothing changed. > > **Mesmer** > Ridiculous sustain for Mirage and 5 clone bug still in play. > So nothing changed. > > **Ranger** > Beast build still is tanky af and deals ton of damage. > So nothing changed. > > **Revenant** > Didn't tone down the power output. > So nothing changed. > > So, pretty much nothing changes. > Skill-less play still in favor. Rev saw a decrease in burst damage by almost 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math.5123 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 > @"phokus.8934" said: > > @"Tao.5096" said: > > Well, some bits from me. > > > > **Thief** > > Deadeye is still oneshoting 90% of classes and builds while in stealth. > > So nothing changed. > > > > **Mesmer** > > Ridiculous sustain for Mirage and 5 clone bug still in play. > > So nothing changed. > > > > **Ranger** > > Beast build still is tanky af and deals ton of damage. > > So nothing changed. > > > > **Revenant** > > Didn't tone down the power output. > > So nothing changed. > > > > So, pretty much nothing changes. > > Skill-less play still in favor. > Rev saw a decrease in burst damage by almost 10%. > They also saw an increase in quickness uptime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phokus.8934 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 > @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said: > > @"phokus.8934" said: > > > @"Tao.5096" said: > > > Well, some bits from me. > > > > > > **Thief** > > > Deadeye is still oneshoting 90% of classes and builds while in stealth. > > > So nothing changed. > > > > > > **Mesmer** > > > Ridiculous sustain for Mirage and 5 clone bug still in play. > > > So nothing changed. > > > > > > **Ranger** > > > Beast build still is tanky af and deals ton of damage. > > > So nothing changed. > > > > > > **Revenant** > > > Didn't tone down the power output. > > > So nothing changed. > > > > > > So, pretty much nothing changes. > > > Skill-less play still in favor. > > Rev saw a decrease in burst damage by almost 10%. > > > > They also saw an increase in quickness uptime. No one is taking Song of the Mists over Roiling Mists in pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 > @"AngelLovesFredrik.6741" said: > > @"phokus.8934" said: > > > @"Tao.5096" said: > > > Well, some bits from me. > > > > > > **Thief** > > > Deadeye is still oneshoting 90% of classes and builds while in stealth. > > > So nothing changed. > > > > > > **Mesmer** > > > Ridiculous sustain for Mirage and 5 clone bug still in play. > > > So nothing changed. > > > > > > **Ranger** > > > Beast build still is tanky af and deals ton of damage. > > > So nothing changed. > > > > > > **Revenant** > > > Didn't tone down the power output. > > > So nothing changed. > > > > > > So, pretty much nothing changes. > > > Skill-less play still in favor. > > Rev saw a decrease in burst damage by almost 10%. > > > > They also saw an increase in quickness uptime. No one takes that trait, let's be real. And they didn't lose 10% off their burst, they lost a few percent off their sustained damage with potential for a slightly higher burst in the rare and breif occasions when vulnerability stacks are at 14 or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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