Klowdy.3126 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Like the title says. I'm trying to gear my necro, but I haven't been having any luck with fractals, and I can't move up without it. I have full trinkets, and a few legendary weapons, though only GS for this class. I would like to get fully heard, despite not having that much more stats. I like having the ability to change the stats if I need to. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User:Tanetris/So_You_Want_To_Gear_a_Character (includes a section on Ascended gear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 So it seems as though I'm doing the best thing already, running fractals. I've been very unlucky so far, doing about 40 fractals and never getting a single piece of gear. Oh well, I guess I'll just keep at it, wasn't sure if there was a better way than hoping for fractal drops in order to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiviana.2650 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > So it seems as though I'm doing the best thing already, running fractals. I've been very unlucky so far, doing about 40 fractals and never getting a single piece of gear. Oh well, I guess I'll just keep at it, wasn't sure if there was a better way than hoping for fractal drops in order to move up. Fractals drop ascended in t4 at a much better rate. The irony is you need ascended to run t4. If you are in exotics stick to t1 and t2, t3 is very iffy you need at least some ascended, this is not only for stats but for AR, you cant get the amount of AR needed in t4 from exotics at all. Im not sure about the potions as i dont buy them because i do t1 and t2, but i dont know if they give a high enough AR to survive. I also need ascended gear and its a slow laborious process in my case, and actually there are some pieces i will prob never get. Probably have a legendary before then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phs.6089 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Best way is to craft your first ascended gear. There is no easy way to get. Well there is a way to buy daily t4s carry and hope you get ascended drops but I don't think you were asking for this easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 > @"Tiviana.2650" said: > > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > > So it seems as though I'm doing the best thing already, running fractals. I've been very unlucky so far, doing about 40 fractals and never getting a single piece of gear. Oh well, I guess I'll just keep at it, wasn't sure if there was a better way than hoping for fractal drops in order to move up. > > Fractals drop ascended in t4 at a much better rate. The irony is you need ascended to run t4. If you are in exotics stick to t1 and t2, t3 is very iffy you need at least some ascended, this is not only for stats but for AR, you cant get the amount of AR needed in t4 from exotics at all. Im not sure about the potions as i dont buy them because i do t1 and t2, but i dont know if they give a high enough AR to survive. I also need ascended gear and its a slow laborious process in my case, and actually there are some pieces i will prob never get. Probably have a legendary before then lol I have trinkets I can add some agony resist to fo T3, how much do I need for that level? > @"phs.6089" said: > Best way is to craft your first ascended gear. There is no easy way to get. > Well there is a way to buy daily t4s carry and hope you get ascended drops but I don't think you were asking for this easy. I made a heavy set a long time ago, when I had a bunch of gold, but it is expensive, and I'm not a big fan of the crafting system in this game. I'm honestly not a big fan of crafting in most games, outside of Albion online, and old school WoW. I guess that holds me back, but I was looking for ways outside of crafting. I was actually thinking of leveling something on my necro, but he is fairly new, as far as me actually playing him is concerned (leveled to 80 with tomes, and just picked up reaper last week, but he is almost two years old). I really knew the answer, I was just hoping to hear something I didn't know about. Oh well, I'll just keep plugging away, and start my craft grinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesumness.1823 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Although timegated, [Envoy Armor I](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Envoy_Armor_I:_Experimental_Armor "https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Envoy_Armor_I:_Experimental_Armor") gives a full set and it's not gated by requiring asc gear. On top of that, raids can drop asc gear/boxes and the magnetite shards can be used to buy trinkets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 > @"Awesumness.1823" said: > Although timegated, [Envoy Armor I](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Envoy_Armor_I:_Experimental_Armor "https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Envoy_Armor_I:_Experimental_Armor") gives a full set and it's not gated by requiring asc gear. On top of that, raids can drop asc gear/boxes and the magnetite shards can be used to buy trinkets. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but I don't think I'm good enough to raid. I guess i should check out a video of one, but despite probably being incorrect, i feel like i drag down groups in new things. Idk, i need to try some group stuff on my reaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Red Arachnid.2493 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 What I like to do is craft a relatively cheap gear prefix, and then transmute it to an expensive one. It's cheaper to craft something like Hronks and change it to Zojjas than it is to craft Zojjas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etria.3642 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > > @"Awesumness.1823" said: > > Although timegated, [Envoy Armor I](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Envoy_Armor_I:_Experimental_Armor "https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Envoy_Armor_I:_Experimental_Armor") gives a full set and it's not gated by requiring asc gear. On top of that, raids can drop asc gear/boxes and the magnetite shards can be used to buy trinkets. > > Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but I don't think I'm good enough to raid. I guess i should check out a video of one, but despite probably being incorrect, i feel like i drag down groups in new things. Idk, i need to try some group stuff on my reaper. The trouble with that collection is that while most of it is doable with training groups some of it really isn't, at least not that my level of ability indicates(having trouble with wing 2, essentially) BUT don't let that put you off trying raids. Some of them, wing 4 particularly, and wing 1, are pretty easy to get the hang of, and ANY raid boss can drop a piece of ascended. Just look for a guild that does training, or join a training run to get your feet wet. DO USE VOICE, watch the videos, and be a bit patient. I remember my first training run on Cairn took 2 hours and now we can one shot it(but sometimes don't, oh well). The group I'm with is pretty patient, no one gets upset even with stupid mistakes, and it's fun! Just don't pretend to be experienced. It will show. And you don't need to hit the numbers snowcrows throws up. Sure, my elitist friend's group tosses out 30k's and downs CA in 3 minutes, while we barely make it in 6 with 20k's but we still get it down. Then once you've gotten a few ascended you get get your AR up in fractals, and get drops there too. Oh, and you get magnetite shards just for trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dami.5046 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 There's always the PvP or WvW option. It takes a while, but it has the benefit that you can choose stats : Super helpful for stats such as minstrels. You need to craft grandmaster marks, but shards (which you need 10 off in wvw) or an actual Mark box where you (from pvp) can choose a 'mark' drop from a completed chest (during the season) . The other added benefit is that you don't need a group if you don't want to pug. I craft mainly all mine (doing a steelstars set as a type) but I have all the mats i need to get a PvP set ( but can't decide on what kind/stat) . I have gotten some ascended boxes, even one from istan (the horror) but with crafting I control when I get a piece not hope on a random drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiza.5630 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 > @"Blood Red Arachnid.2493" said: > What I like to do is craft a relatively cheap gear prefix, and then transmute it to an expensive one. It's cheaper to craft something like Hronks and change it to Zojjas than it is to craft Zojjas. That is not universally true as you require an additional exo insignia for this. Zojja's visage 44g https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-48087 Hronks visage + stat change 44g (price doesn't even account for 5 ectos) https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-48033;1-19913 Viper's directly 43g https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-74357 Weapons Zojja's axe 48g https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-46759 Hronk's + stat change materials 49g (price excluding ectos) https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-46968;1-19920 If you craft an ascended item specifically to stat change you should check the prices first or you end up paying more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dami.5046 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Don't forget you add in the cost of buying exotics to savage for dark matter BTW, which GW2efficiency doesn't include. Those prices are for putting in orders in too, not for buying the mats outright or doing the time gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 > @"Kiza.5630" said: > > @"Blood Red Arachnid.2493" said: > > What I like to do is craft a relatively cheap gear prefix, and then transmute it to an expensive one. It's cheaper to craft something like Hronks and change it to Zojjas than it is to craft Zojjas. > > That is not universally true as you require an additional exo insignia for this. > > Zojja's visage 44g https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-48087 > Hronks visage + stat change 44g (price doesn't even account for 5 ectos) https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-48033;1-19913 > Viper's directly 43g https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-74357 > > Weapons > Zojja's axe 48g https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-46759 > Hronk's + stat change materials 49g (price excluding ectos) https://gw2efficiency.com/crafting/calculator/a~0!b~1!c~0!d~1-46968;1-19920 > > If you craft an ascended item specifically to stat change you should check the prices first or you end up paying more. Indeed. In fact, it's rarely true that you save _coin_ by using the forge to transform the stats. There are reasons for doing it, though, because you can save on other currencies. For example: * Crafting Yassith's directly requires fulgurite, which in turn costs HoT map currencies. * Crafting Hronk first and forging with a Viper's Exotic avoids that. Final note: think of it as item _transformation_ rather than stat swapping, because the original weapon|armor is destroyed (including any upgrades). Zommoros takes everything and returns an entirely new item (at least, new to you; probably refurbished). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanWilder.6923 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > I made a heavy set a long time ago Why dont you play that heavy class with full ascended to run T4 daily and wait for the Drops? I crafted my 1st set ascended armor for Ele, play t4 daily with that ele and have 5 alts full ascended now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokeenoppa.5384 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Easiest would Be ofc craft those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 > @"VanWilder.6923" said: > > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > > I made a heavy set a long time ago > Why dont you play that heavy class with full ascended to run T4 daily and wait for the Drops? > > I crafted my 1st set ascended armor for Ele, play t4 daily with that ele and have 5 alts full ascended now. > I'm bored with those classes. I'll start doing as you said, and just completely lose interest in the game, and stop playing. I've tried several times, for years now. I'm burned out with the heavy classes. The only thing that has been able to keep my attention for more than a week, has been necro. I'd rather slowly get gear than have to do something unenjoyable in a video game. I might try to run power rev, I dont have a ton of playtime in that spec. I think with my trinkets, and weapon, I'll be able to get enough agony resist to do T3 with my necro. Thank you to everyone that answered. I was hoping for some way I didn't know of yet, but I guess I'll just start crafting (such a long process starting a new craft, lol), and continue with fractals. I bought the two recipes to craft Mark's last night, so I was going to aim for that. Unfortunately, I'm not very good at PvP, the only success I've had so far was with a bunker guardian, and that was a little boring, but I've never tried any on my reaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiviana.2650 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > > @"Tiviana.2650" said: > > > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > > > So it seems as though I'm doing the best thing already, running fractals. I've been very unlucky so far, doing about 40 fractals and never getting a single piece of gear. Oh well, I guess I'll just keep at it, wasn't sure if there was a better way than hoping for fractal drops in order to move up. > > > > Fractals drop ascended in t4 at a much better rate. The irony is you need ascended to run t4. If you are in exotics stick to t1 and t2, t3 is very iffy you need at least some ascended, this is not only for stats but for AR, you cant get the amount of AR needed in t4 from exotics at all. Im not sure about the potions as i dont buy them because i do t1 and t2, but i dont know if they give a high enough AR to survive. I also need ascended gear and its a slow laborious process in my case, and actually there are some pieces i will prob never get. Probably have a legendary before then lol > > I have trinkets I can add some agony resist to fo T3, how much do I need for that level? > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > Best way is to craft your first ascended gear. There is no easy way to get. > > Well there is a way to buy daily t4s carry and hope you get ascended drops but I don't think you were asking for this easy. > > I made a heavy set a long time ago, when I had a bunch of gold, but it is expensive, and I'm not a big fan of the crafting system in this game. I'm honestly not a big fan of crafting in most games, outside of Albion online, and old school WoW. I guess that holds me back, but I was looking for ways outside of crafting. I was actually thinking of leveling something on my necro, but he is fairly new, as far as me actually playing him is concerned (leveled to 80 with tomes, and just picked up reaper last week, but he is almost two years old). > > I really knew the answer, I was just hoping to hear something I didn't know about. Oh well, I'll just keep plugging away, and start my craft grinding. There is a table here for AR. Initiate Level Fractal AR 1 Volcanic 0 2 Uncategorized 0 3 Snowblind 0 4 Urban Battleground 0 5 Swampland 0 6 Cliffside 0 7 Aquatic Ruins 0 8 Underground Facility 0 9 Molten Furnace 0 10 Molten Boss 0 11 Deepstone 0 12 Siren's Reef 0 13 Chaos Isles 0 14 Aetherblade 0 15 Thaumanova Reactor 0 16 Twilight Oasis 0 17 Underground Facility 0 18 Captain Mai Trin Boss 0 19 Volcanic 0 20 Solid Ocean 8 21 Swampland 10 22 Cliffside 11 23 Molten Furnace 13 24 Nightmare 15 25 Shattered Observatory 17 Adept Level Fractal AR 26 Aquatic Ruins 18 27 Snowblind 20 28 Volcanic 22 29 Underground Facility 24 30 Chaos Isles 26 31 Urban Battleground 27 32 Swampland 29 33 Deepstone 31 34 Thaumanova Reactor 33 35 Solid Ocean 34 36 Uncategorized 36 37 Siren's Reef 38 38 Chaos Isles 40 39 Molten Furnace 42 40 Molten Boss 43 41 Twilight Oasis 45 42 Captain Mai Trin Boss 47 43 Underground Facility 49 44 Uncategorized 50 45 Solid Ocean 52 46 Aetherblade 54 47 Cliffside 56 48 Thaumanova Reactor 58 49 Nightmare 59 50 Shattered Observatory 61 Expert Level Fractal AR 51 Snowblind 63 52 Volcanic 65 53 Underground Facility 67 54 Siren's Reef 68 55 Thaumanova Reactor 70 56 Swampland 72 57 Urban Battleground 74 58 Molten Furnace 75 59 Twilight Oasis 77 60 Solid Ocean 79 61 Aquatic Ruins 81 62 Uncategorized 83 63 Chaos Isles 84 64 Thaumanova Reactor 86 65 Aetherblade 88 66 Urban Battleground 90 67 Deepstone 91 68 Snowblind 93 69 Cliffside 95 70 Molten Boss 97 71 Aetherblade 99 72 Volcanic 100 73 Captain Mai Trin Boss 102 74 Nightmare 104 75 Shattered Observatory 106 Master Level Fractal AR 76 Aquatic Ruins 107 77 Swampland 109 78 Siren's Reef 111 79 Uncategorized 113 80 Solid Ocean 115 81 Underground Facility 116 82 Cliffside 118 83 Molten Furnace 120 84 Deepstone 122 85 Urban Battleground 123 86 Snowblind 125 87 Twilight Oasis 127 88 Chaos Isles 129 89 Swampland 131 90 Molten Boss 132 91 Uncategorized 134 92 Volcanic 136 93 Snowblind 138 94 Cliffside 139 95 Captain Mai Trin Boss 141 96 Aetherblade 143 97 Thaumanova Reactor 145 98 Chaos Isles 147 99 Nightmare 148 100 Shattered Observatory 150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klowdy.3126 Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 > @"Tiviana.2650" said: > > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > > > @"Tiviana.2650" said: > > > > @"Klowdy.3126" said: > > > > So it seems as though I'm doing the best thing already, running fractals. I've been very unlucky so far, doing about 40 fractals and never getting a single piece of gear. Oh well, I guess I'll just keep at it, wasn't sure if there was a better way than hoping for fractal drops in order to move up. > > > > > > Fractals drop ascended in t4 at a much better rate. The irony is you need ascended to run t4. If you are in exotics stick to t1 and t2, t3 is very iffy you need at least some ascended, this is not only for stats but for AR, you cant get the amount of AR needed in t4 from exotics at all. Im not sure about the potions as i dont buy them because i do t1 and t2, but i dont know if they give a high enough AR to survive. I also need ascended gear and its a slow laborious process in my case, and actually there are some pieces i will prob never get. Probably have a legendary before then lol > > > > I have trinkets I can add some agony resist to fo T3, how much do I need for that level? > > > > > @"phs.6089" said: > > > Best way is to craft your first ascended gear. There is no easy way to get. > > > Well there is a way to buy daily t4s carry and hope you get ascended drops but I don't think you were asking for this easy. > > > > I made a heavy set a long time ago, when I had a bunch of gold, but it is expensive, and I'm not a big fan of the crafting system in this game. I'm honestly not a big fan of crafting in most games, outside of Albion online, and old school WoW. I guess that holds me back, but I was looking for ways outside of crafting. I was actually thinking of leveling something on my necro, but he is fairly new, as far as me actually playing him is concerned (leveled to 80 with tomes, and just picked up reaper last week, but he is almost two years old). > > > > I really knew the answer, I was just hoping to hear something I didn't know about. Oh well, I'll just keep plugging away, and start my craft grinding. > > There is a table here for AR. > > > Initiate > Level Fractal AR > 1 Volcanic 0 > 2 Uncategorized 0 > 3 Snowblind 0 > 4 Urban Battleground 0 > 5 Swampland 0 > 6 Cliffside 0 > 7 Aquatic Ruins 0 > 8 Underground Facility 0 > 9 Molten Furnace 0 > 10 Molten Boss 0 > 11 Deepstone 0 > 12 Siren's Reef 0 > 13 Chaos Isles 0 > 14 Aetherblade 0 > 15 Thaumanova Reactor 0 > 16 Twilight Oasis 0 > 17 Underground Facility 0 > 18 Captain Mai Trin Boss 0 > 19 Volcanic 0 > 20 Solid Ocean 8 > 21 Swampland 10 > 22 Cliffside 11 > 23 Molten Furnace 13 > 24 Nightmare 15 > 25 Shattered Observatory 17 > > Adept > Level Fractal AR > 26 Aquatic Ruins 18 > 27 Snowblind 20 > 28 Volcanic 22 > 29 Underground Facility 24 > 30 Chaos Isles 26 > 31 Urban Battleground 27 > 32 Swampland 29 > 33 Deepstone 31 > 34 Thaumanova Reactor 33 > 35 Solid Ocean 34 > 36 Uncategorized 36 > 37 Siren's Reef 38 > 38 Chaos Isles 40 > 39 Molten Furnace 42 > 40 Molten Boss 43 > 41 Twilight Oasis 45 > 42 Captain Mai Trin Boss 47 > 43 Underground Facility 49 > 44 Uncategorized 50 > 45 Solid Ocean 52 > 46 Aetherblade 54 > 47 Cliffside 56 > 48 Thaumanova Reactor 58 > 49 Nightmare 59 > 50 Shattered Observatory 61 > > Expert > Level Fractal AR > 51 Snowblind 63 > 52 Volcanic 65 > 53 Underground Facility 67 > 54 Siren's Reef 68 > 55 Thaumanova Reactor 70 > 56 Swampland 72 > 57 Urban Battleground 74 > 58 Molten Furnace 75 > 59 Twilight Oasis 77 > 60 Solid Ocean 79 > 61 Aquatic Ruins 81 > 62 Uncategorized 83 > 63 Chaos Isles 84 > 64 Thaumanova Reactor 86 > 65 Aetherblade 88 > 66 Urban Battleground 90 > 67 Deepstone 91 > 68 Snowblind 93 > 69 Cliffside 95 > 70 Molten Boss 97 > 71 Aetherblade 99 > 72 Volcanic 100 > 73 Captain Mai Trin Boss 102 > 74 Nightmare 104 > 75 Shattered Observatory 106 > > Master > Level Fractal AR > 76 Aquatic Ruins 107 > 77 Swampland 109 > 78 Siren's Reef 111 > 79 Uncategorized 113 > 80 Solid Ocean 115 > 81 Underground Facility 116 > 82 Cliffside 118 > 83 Molten Furnace 120 > 84 Deepstone 122 > 85 Urban Battleground 123 > 86 Snowblind 125 > 87 Twilight Oasis 127 > 88 Chaos Isles 129 > 89 Swampland 131 > 90 Molten Boss 132 > 91 Uncategorized 134 > 92 Volcanic 136 > 93 Snowblind 138 > 94 Cliffside 139 > 95 Captain Mai Trin Boss 141 > 96 Aetherblade 143 > 97 Thaumanova Reactor 145 > 98 Chaos Isles 147 > 99 Nightmare 148 > 100 Shattered Observatory 150 > Thanks, that helps a lot. I have one trinket with +9 on it right now, and I'll have to give up about 20 power, but I'll end up putting +9s in all my accessories, and my GS. That should give me 63 without gear, and I'm guessing i can add extra slots to some of those. I know i did that for a viper ring i got from LW3 so i could use two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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