Alternatives to Berserker/Marauder/Assassin

[Einlanzer.1627]

Running a Power/hybrid Renegade in OW with Rolling Mists and very, very high Fury uptime. This basically means most of my Precision goes to waste, so I'm looking for the best alternative to a full Berserker/Maruader set. I'm of the opinion that defensive stats are slightly undervalued in OW, so right now I'm running a mix of Soldier, Berserker, and Cavalier gear to minimize my Precision overflow and instead focus a bit more on Ferocity, Vitality, and Toughness.

 

What I don't like about Cavalier, though, is that it's Toughness primary meaning you're giving up a bit of Power which you basically never want to do.

Meanwhile, Soldier's is a little too defensive minded and means I give up more Ferocity than I want.

 

Would most people consider Valkyrie a good investment for this type of build? What other suggestions are there?

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

You're going to have to specify your build here. On my herald, using a standard Devastation + Invocation + Herald build with full berserker, i'm sitting at 91% crit chance with no additional outside bonuses from traits, sigils, or runes. Considering that is lower than 100%, none of my precision is going to waste.

 

That said, I do run Diviner in the overworld sometimes.

[Moira Shalaar.5620]

I have what sounds to be a similar trait build as OP, but for gear I use Diviner weapons, Grieving armor & Valkyrie trinkets with Eagle Runes. I find it gives me a satisfying blend of defense and offense without much excess precision/crit chance. If you don't need the boon uptime try switching diviners for more grieving.

[Einlanzer.1627]

> @"Blood Red Arachnid.2493" said:

> You're going to have to specify your build here. On my herald, using a standard Devastation + Invocation + Herald build with full berserker, i'm sitting at 91% crit chance with no additional outside bonuses from traits, sigils, or runes. Considering that is lower than 100%, none of my precision is going to waste.

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> That said, I do run Diviner in the overworld sometimes.

 

I specified in the OP that I run Rolling Mists with near 100% Fury uptime, which means that anything over 60% crit chance is basically going to waste. Your 91% crit chance is going to waste if you maintain Fury throughout most fights.

 

[Za Shaloc.3908]

Well, if you are not wanting any precision, then perhaps aside from Valkyrie, consider Crusader as you can get value from the healing power if you are running Kalla.

[Justine.6351]

> @"Einlanzer.1627" said:

> > @"Blood Red Arachnid.2493" said:

> > You're going to have to specify your build here. On my herald, using a standard Devastation + Invocation + Herald build with full berserker, i'm sitting at 91% crit chance with no additional outside bonuses from traits, sigils, or runes. Considering that is lower than 100%, none of my precision is going to waste.

> >

> > That said, I do run Diviner in the overworld sometimes.

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> I specified in the OP that I run Rolling Mists with near 100% Fury uptime, which means that anything over 60% crit chance is basically going to waste. Your 91% crit chance is going to waste if you maintain Fury throughout most fights.

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he is talking herald which doesn't over cap with full berserkers.

Renegade has the +33% crit chance trait though.

 

Valks is the only way to maintain max power/ferocity while trimming over capped crit chance.

A different option would be to run a mix of diviners and crusaders.

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

Ah... I think I know why now. Most renegade builds don't run Rolling Mists. They run Charged Mists, because they need the extra energy. Anyway, the question now is this: how often do you dodge? You lose the extra crit bonus on Renegade if you dodge, so if you find yourself dodging a lot, that 120% crit chance lowers back down to 90 again.

[Master Ketsu.4569]

You can run demolishers if you are using a build with condi clear ie shield rev.

 

 

[Aeolus.3615]

Zealot, Marshall, pleb clerics ;)