SeikeNz.3526 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 even with rune of speed is hard to catch a warrior without swiftness running away, how a class with such defense and power have that high mobility? something has to be done, leap skills need a higher cooldown, because right now ranged means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Because if war didn't have their leaps we could keel over at the sight of a ranger longbow 2 spam. Deadeyes kite them Mirage dodge through their main burst while dropping condi on their head Ranger kite/evade through their main burst Necro just press 2 on axe and strip their important boons for them to catch up and continue to kite around them. Ranged is certainly not useless, especially since this round of classes do nothing but spam RANGED condi.Yes, I've been seeing more Soulbeasts taking Condi to combo with stupid mirage, burn guard, necro or anything that has a half decent condi build now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeikeNz.3526 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > Because if war didn't have their leaps we could keel over at the sight of a ranger longbow 2 spam. >** Deadeyes kite them > Mirage dodge through their main burst while dropping condi on their head > Ranger kite/evade through their main burst > Necro just press 2 on axe and strip their important boons for them to catch up and continue to kite around them.** that is what classes do? this isnt a argument > Ranged is certainly not useless, especially since this round of classes do nothing but spam RANGED condi.Yes, I've been seeing more Soulbeasts taking Condi to combo with stupid mirage, burn guard, necro or anything that has a half decent condi build now. im ok with the leap skills, the problem is when they can outrun someone with rune of speed while they don't even have swiftness on, the spam is too much, the cd is too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > Because if war didn't have their leaps we could keel over at the sight of a ranger longbow 2 spam. > > > > Deadeyes kite them > > Mirage dodge through their main burst while dropping condi on their head > > Ranger kite/evade through their main burst > > Necro just press 2 on axe and strip their important boons for them to catch up and continue to kite around them. > > > > > > Ranged is certainly not useless, especially since this round of classes do nothing but spam RANGED condi.Yes, I've been seeing more Soulbeasts taking Condi to combo with stupid mirage, burn guard, necro or anything that has a half decent condi build now. > > im ok with the leap skills, the problem is when they can outrun someone with rune of speed while they don't even have swiftness on They are chaining three skills to get away from you. Three. Whirl. GS 5. Bull charge. If they don't have those up, all they can do is shield up through their block or if they are Spellbreaker Full counter. They're wasting four or five skills to disengage for AWHILE, you probably waste two at most lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeikeNz.3526 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > Because if war didn't have their leaps we could keel over at the sight of a ranger longbow 2 spam. > > > > > > Deadeyes kite them > > > Mirage dodge through their main burst while dropping condi on their head > > > Ranger kite/evade through their main burst > > > Necro just press 2 on axe and strip their important boons for them to catch up and continue to kite around them. > > > > > > > > > Ranged is certainly not useless, especially since this round of classes do nothing but spam RANGED condi.Yes, I've been seeing more Soulbeasts taking Condi to combo with stupid mirage, burn guard, necro or anything that has a half decent condi build now. > > > > im ok with the leap skills, the problem is when they can outrun someone with rune of speed while they don't even have swiftness on > > They are chaining three skills to get away from you. Three. Whirl. GS 5. Bull charge. If they don't have those up, all they can do is shield up through their block or if they are Spellbreaker Full counter. > > They're wasting four or five skills to disengage for AWHILE, you probably waste two at most lmao. that would be a waste if the skills was with a big cooldown, with a such low cooldown means nothing, they can chain it forever not for a while, you always can see them using it just to run around the map because they know if they find a enemy the cd will be up fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > Because if war didn't have their leaps we could keel over at the sight of a ranger longbow 2 spam. > > > > > > > > Deadeyes kite them > > > > Mirage dodge through their main burst while dropping condi on their head > > > > Ranger kite/evade through their main burst > > > > Necro just press 2 on axe and strip their important boons for them to catch up and continue to kite around them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranged is certainly not useless, especially since this round of classes do nothing but spam RANGED condi.Yes, I've been seeing more Soulbeasts taking Condi to combo with stupid mirage, burn guard, necro or anything that has a half decent condi build now. > > > > > > im ok with the leap skills, the problem is when they can outrun someone with rune of speed while they don't even have swiftness on > > > > They are chaining three skills to get away from you. Three. Whirl. GS 5. Bull charge. If they don't have those up, all they can do is shield up through their block or if they are Spellbreaker Full counter. > > > > They're wasting four or five skills to disengage for AWHILE, you probably waste two at most lmao. > > that would be a waste if the skills was with a big cooldown, with a such low cooldown means nothing, they can chain it forever not for a while, you always can see them using it just to run around the map because they know if they find a enemy the cd will be up fast Whirlwind Blade- Ten seconds Rush- 20 seconds Bull Rush- 30 Seconds untraited, 27 Traited Full Counter- 10 Seconds Shield Stance- 25 seconds If most of these skills are off cooldowns when someone finds you and chases you hard, as a war, you at dead. So yes, these are long cooldowns with how fast our combat is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > Because if war didn't have their leaps we could keel over at the sight of a ranger longbow 2 spam. > > > > > > > > Deadeyes kite them > > > > Mirage dodge through their main burst while dropping condi on their head > > > > Ranger kite/evade through their main burst > > > > Necro just press 2 on axe and strip their important boons for them to catch up and continue to kite around them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranged is certainly not useless, especially since this round of classes do nothing but spam RANGED condi.Yes, I've been seeing more Soulbeasts taking Condi to combo with stupid mirage, burn guard, necro or anything that has a half decent condi build now. > > > > > > im ok with the leap skills, the problem is when they can outrun someone with rune of speed while they don't even have swiftness on > > > > They are chaining three skills to get away from you. Three. Whirl. GS 5. Bull charge. If they don't have those up, all they can do is shield up through their block or if they are Spellbreaker Full counter. > > > > They're wasting four or five skills to disengage for AWHILE, you probably waste two at most lmao. > > that would be a waste if the skills was with a big cooldown, with a such low cooldown means nothing, they can chain it forever not for a while, you always can see them using it just to run around the map because they know if they find a enemy the cd will be up fast As soon as u use FOREVER or infinite in ur complaint credibility of said complaint plummets. Yeah warrior has traits to decrease cd's as all classes do and unless they're using sword or dagger on weapon swap than fast hands doesn't help either. Like poster said above the warriors using multiple skills to allow 8ts self good mobility, a level of mobility most classes can match if players knows what they're doing. This is not to mention the warrior is putting 2 skills and a utility on CD or 3 skills and utility if sword/dagger on weapon swap putting the warrior at risk. Cd's are not so low u can forever chain nor is their mobility out of line given they class type. Typical l2p issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I play D/D thief and take apart warriors. Even with decreased CD's and lots of gap closers it doesn't change the fact that they are easy to read. As soon as you understand how a warrior plays and can identify their skills by animation you can "lol" at about 80% of the warriors you fight. There are a few out there though that can play well and still manage to move unpredictably and control the pacing of the fight, but they are the very small minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolLookAtMyAP.8394 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 This is why you keep your eyes on warriors and look out for their obviously telegraphed attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble.4580 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I like wars running away I dislike them holding a side point that’s theirs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emapudapus.1307 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Imagine you would have to build for mobility/catching up/slowing oponents down/rangecounter while doing sacrifices for other things. BAahahah wut, is this 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 doesnt soulbeast run with perma swiftness, while jumping like monkey? reminds me of this meme https://imgur.com/gallery/EVswN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxoglanis.1904 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 just dodge lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > Because if war didn't have their leaps we could keel over at the sight of a ranger longbow 2 spam. > > > > > > > > Deadeyes kite them > > > > Mirage dodge through their main burst while dropping condi on their head > > > > Ranger kite/evade through their main burst > > > > Necro just press 2 on axe and strip their important boons for them to catch up and continue to kite around them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ranged is certainly not useless, especially since this round of classes do nothing but spam RANGED condi.Yes, I've been seeing more Soulbeasts taking Condi to combo with stupid mirage, burn guard, necro or anything that has a half decent condi build now. > > > > > > im ok with the leap skills, the problem is when they can outrun someone with rune of speed while they don't even have swiftness on > > > > They are chaining three skills to get away from you. Three. Whirl. GS 5. Bull charge. If they don't have those up, all they can do is shield up through their block or if they are Spellbreaker Full counter. > > > > They're wasting four or five skills to disengage for AWHILE, you probably waste two at most lmao. > > that would be a waste if the skills was with a big cooldown, with a such low cooldown means nothing, they can chain it forever not for a while, you always can see them using it just to run around the map because they know if they find a enemy the cd will be up fast Low cd would be holo leap combined with rocket boots, hell even mirage with sword ambush can rival warrior mobility...true, not many run sword now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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