Ashimmu.4219 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just letting know to devs in case someone is gathering customer's feedback, that I am tired from unhealthy mechanics in PVP and decided to uninstall GW2 until things got fixed (saving my nerves, you know). Reasons: 1) Mesmer class - too much survivability - too easy to spam conditions (check HappyNo's recent video on YT to find out why exactly it's stupidly OP). And it's 2-4 Mesmers in every match I play! This is a joke! :) 2) Cloak in general - too much accessability, uptime and zero penalty to using it (can hit from cloak, can move without restrictions etc..). 3) Ranged damage is too high (need balance risk/reward ratio if you want to stay away from battle but shooting ppl) - Soulbeast, for example can hit hard from afar, being cloaked and have decent tankyness. However, I am enjoying fights between Warriors, Guardians, Reapers involved - trying to outCC your contender - good stuff! I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches). It's a good game and perhaps, developers will fix current balance, so more people will come out for play, because now it sucks. Sorry for my english :) Be peace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyzE.3472 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 If you are waiting for PvP to get better, goodbye forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 @"Ashimmu.4219" is there a reason why didnt you take counterpick to mesmers if you see them 2-4 in each game? also if you are fed up with them climb out and you wont see that much of them. I see 1-3 of them max and thats with me being one of the 1-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest >P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast. >I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches). From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total. No wonder the game is dead :joy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondor.2904 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Odik.4587" said: > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest > >P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast. > >I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches). > From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total. > No wonder the game is dead :joy: At first I was sceptical about your gameplay judgement, then I watched the video. Good thing such forum posters have no influence over balance decisions. Oh wait... :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 So, in short, "I think what I play is fine, everything else is unhealthy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeikeNz.3526 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Odik.4587" said: > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest > >P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast. > >I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches). > **From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total**. > No wonder the game is dead :joy and this is the exact attitude Anet is tolerating and no wonder why guild wars 2 will continue down in its toxic state to complete diminish without no return. -I get called out and accused of disrespecting Anet: which i never did, instead i continue to attack the root cause of the problem-Toxicity- Guess what!! Aside from Thief Profession doing the game bidding of keeping players away from playing the game, Toxic Players are also doing it. Toxic players as players who demoralize, shame and belittles other players who voice their concerns with experiences they have. **IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT EXPERIENCE OR HOW MANY EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE, WHAT MATTERS IS THEIR VOICE MATTERS TOO** It is those exact players whom the world will come to listen first; not yours or mine but theirs. Guess what!! What they say will greatly have 2 times or more greater effect than you and me. Guess what again!! **EVERYONE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF VOICE** (following forum rules obliviously) The Op is important and value as everyone else. **Toxicity have no say when it comes to treating one another** Keep Toxicity where it belongs, in the trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity.6304 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Since PvP is a neglected game mode and gets changes only rarely, the only way to enjoy it is to have an attitude of embracing the current state and making the best out of it. No point in complaining. Everyone is better off thinking of ways to counter stuff or by learning new classes. And imagine that‘s me talking: playing core nec and getting spawncamped by a DE not packing corrosive poison cloud one game yesterday. PMA for life haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Serenity.6304" said: > Since PvP is a neglected game mode and gets changes only rarely, the only way to enjoy it is to have an attitude of embracing the current state and making the best out of it. No point in complaining. Everyone is better off thinking of ways to counter stuff or by learning new classes. And imagine that‘s me talking: playing core nec and getting spawncamped by a DE not packing corrosive poison cloud one game yesterday. PMA for life haha doesnt core necro run around with 25khp, gigashroud and aoe reveal throght walls? on top of marks that can hit stealthed targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity.6304 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > @"Serenity.6304" said: > > Since PvP is a neglected game mode and gets changes only rarely, the only way to enjoy it is to have an attitude of embracing the current state and making the best out of it. No point in complaining. Everyone is better off thinking of ways to counter stuff or by learning new classes. And imagine that‘s me talking: playing core nec and getting spawncamped by a DE not packing corrosive poison cloud one game yesterday. PMA for life haha > > doesnt core necro run around with 25khp, gigashroud and aoe reveal throght walls? on top of marks that can hit stealthed targets? True that. Still has hardcounters like DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Serenity.6304" said: > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > @"Serenity.6304" said: > > > Since PvP is a neglected game mode and gets changes only rarely, the only way to enjoy it is to have an attitude of embracing the current state and making the best out of it. No point in complaining. Everyone is better off thinking of ways to counter stuff or by learning new classes. And imagine that‘s me talking: playing core nec and getting spawncamped by a DE not packing corrosive poison cloud one game yesterday. PMA for life haha > > > > doesnt core necro run around with 25khp, gigashroud and aoe reveal throght walls? on top of marks that can hit stealthed targets? > > True that. Still has hardcounters like DE > > I play core mes 1shot, and core necro brings alot of truble my way usually. Always thought DE would be in similar boat, then again DE removes reveal, has more stealth, lower burst but bigger sustained damage and more mobility, so im guessing he doesnt burst you down in 1 go but rather takes you apart in 3-4 tries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity.6304 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Can only talk for me and some core nec friends, I am not a pro and only in p1 and p2 every season but even if I dodge the DE, if I have no way to use LoS I am getting ganked like immediately. Power Mes is easier to fight, burst easier to dodge and afterwards vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest > > >P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast. > > >I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches). > > **From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total**. > > No wonder the game is dead :joy > > and this is the exact attitude Anet is tolerating and no wonder why guild wars 2 will continue down in its toxic state to complete diminish without no return. > > -I get called out and accused of disrespecting Anet: which i never did, instead i continue to attack the root cause of the problem-Toxicity- > > Guess what!! > > Aside from Thief Profession doing the game bidding of keeping players away from playing the game, Toxic Players are also doing it. > > Toxic players as players who demoralize, shame and belittles other players who voice their concerns with experiences they have. > > **IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT EXPERIENCE OR HOW MANY EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE, WHAT MATTERS IS THEIR VOICE MATTERS TOO** > > It is those exact players whom the world will come to listen first; not yours or mine but theirs. > > Guess what!! > > What they say will greatly have 2 times or more greater effect than you and me. > > Guess what again!! > > **EVERYONE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF VOICE** > (following forum rules obliviously) > > The Op is important and value as everyone else. > > **Toxicity have no say when it comes to treating one another** > > Keep Toxicity where it belongs, in the trash > Sooooo because toxicity is bad in PvP....does that make PvP trash then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdy.5107 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 lol he plays the 2 cheesiest op classes... yet he wants to nerf everything else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"rowdy.5107" said: > lol he plays the 2 cheesiest op classes... yet he wants to nerf everything else.... I kno right lmao Posting the stuff he does why would he even admit mesmer and necro are his fav's lol tho it makes sense now cuz those to classes have historically had a hate on for thieves. It's weird he never commented on scourges oppressive nature along side fb in wvw? I mean wouldn't that go along with his whole anti toxicity/anti broken mechanics charade he's got going on? I can guess why lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashimmu.4219 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 Hey, chill down folks - It's just an opinion of mediocre player (me) - you may like it or not - it's for dev's eyes primarily - I still hope someday things will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiden The Beast.3016 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest > > >P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast. > > >I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches). > > **From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total**. > > No wonder the game is dead :joy > > and this is the exact attitude Anet is tolerating and no wonder why guild wars 2 will continue down in its toxic state to complete diminish without no return. > > -I get called out and accused of disrespecting Anet: which i never did, instead i continue to attack the root cause of the problem-Toxicity- > > Guess what!! > > Aside from Thief Profession doing the game bidding of keeping players away from playing the game, Toxic Players are also doing it. > > Toxic players as players who demoralize, shame and belittles other players who voice their concerns with experiences they have. > > **IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT EXPERIENCE OR HOW MANY EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE, WHAT MATTERS IS THEIR VOICE MATTERS TOO** > > It is those exact players whom the world will come to listen first; not yours or mine but theirs. > > Guess what!! > > What they say will greatly have 2 times or more greater effect than you and me. > > Guess what again!! > > **EVERYONE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF VOICE** > (following forum rules obliviously) > > The Op is important and value as everyone else. > > **Toxicity have no say when it comes to treating one another** > > Keep Toxicity where it belongs, in the trash > Again this boring teef hater ...no matter what discussion he will find a Spot to hate on teef ?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Raiden The Beast.3016" said: > > @"Burnfall.9573" said: > > > @"Odik.4587" said: > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/87972/guardian-pvp-videos#latest > > > >P.S.: x0,5 speed is better because game is too fast. > > > >I play 1,5yr with Guardian (~3000matches) and Warrior (~400matches). > > > **From the gameplay it seems like you have 20 games total**. > > > No wonder the game is dead :joy > > > > and this is the exact attitude Anet is tolerating and no wonder why guild wars 2 will continue down in its toxic state to complete diminish without no return. > > > > -I get called out and accused of disrespecting Anet: which i never did, instead i continue to attack the root cause of the problem-Toxicity- > > > > Guess what!! > > > > Aside from Thief Profession doing the game bidding of keeping players away from playing the game, Toxic Players are also doing it. > > > > Toxic players as players who demoralize, shame and belittles other players who voice their concerns with experiences they have. > > > > **IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT EXPERIENCE OR HOW MANY EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE, WHAT MATTERS IS THEIR VOICE MATTERS TOO** > > > > It is those exact players whom the world will come to listen first; not yours or mine but theirs. > > > > Guess what!! > > > > What they say will greatly have 2 times or more greater effect than you and me. > > > > Guess what again!! > > > > **EVERYONE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF VOICE** > > (following forum rules obliviously) > > > > The Op is important and value as everyone else. > > > > **Toxicity have no say when it comes to treating one another** > > > > Keep Toxicity where it belongs, in the trash > > > > Again this boring teef hater ...no matter what discussion he will find a Spot to hate on teef ?... It's his shtick lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilandil.7506 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs so weak than bots are runing a 50% win ratio in gold using mesmer(mirage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"megilandil.7506" said: > > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs > > so weak than bots are runing a 50% win ratio in gold using mesmer(mirage) My thoery is that Mirages are hated that people focus them. If a bot runs it, it can be a bit unpredictible to nail down, thus some people will be more inclined to focus them, thus leaving caps/points to do so, thus teh rest of the team carries their 50% win rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik.4587 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > @"megilandil.7506" said: > > > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > > play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs > > > > so weak than bots are runing a 50% win ratio in gold using mesmer(mirage) > > My thoery is that Mirages are hated that people focus them. If a bot runs it, it can be a bit unpredictible to nail down, thus some people will be more inclined to focus them, thus leaving caps/points to do so, thus teh rest of the team carries their 50% win rate I can bet his own winrate below 50%, must hurt that bot is better than him (and definitely better than OP). In fact all bots have an absurd amount of games and rating around ~1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megilandil.7506 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 > @"Odik.4587" said: > > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > > @"megilandil.7506" said: > > > > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > > > play guardian and warrior 2 most op classes right now, die to a mesmer one of the weakests, ask for nerfs > > > > > > so weak than bots are runing a 50% win ratio in gold using mesmer(mirage) > > > > My thoery is that Mirages are hated that people focus them. If a bot runs it, it can be a bit unpredictible to nail down, thus some people will be more inclined to focus them, thus leaving caps/points to do so, thus teh rest of the team carries their 50% win rate > I can bet his own winrate below 50%, must hurt that bot is better than him (and definitely better than OP). In fact all bots have an absurd amount of games and rating around ~1000 lol, around 1000? i have monitorized someones that i encountered staying stable at 1300+ and having peaks above 1450+, and bots run mirage for the high survibability and presion skill chain they have, bots run classes that are efectives using closed skill rotations( the true cancer of any pvp game) and now the top class on it is mirage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radagascar.6231 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Players like you are the reason this game is massively imbalanced. You have no sense of what is ACTUALLY busted. (Sidenote: Mesmers are getting dunked on come Dec 3. while Monkeybrand and lolRev remain untouched). It is mind boggling to think that players like you have any sort of influence on balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashimmu.4219 Posted November 30, 2019 Author Share Posted November 30, 2019 Oh, come on :)) Are you gonna tell that Mesmers are ok? What's your main, friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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