Arden.7480 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Hello, I'm here as a fellow player to acknowledge that Chris Cleary has indeed move on. Chris is a man, but also he was an employee for 7 years, but no more. When a dev moves on it's sad, it's possible another dev moves on as well. In this case it was Chris who's done so. Chris has done a great deal to fight against cheaters. Now he's gone. Chris' moving on will stir hatred on Reddit, it's been like that for several months. It is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 ... at the risk of sounding ignorant, who is Chris Cleary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 > @"Arden.7480" said: > Chris is a man, but also he was an employee for 7 years, but no more. Not sure if no more an employee or no more a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokh.2695 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Sad to see a big name go again. On the other hand, I wouldn't pay too much attention to Reddit. 1)It's even more toxic and "doom and gloom" than this forum 2)Same as here, the hate is only oppinions. Neither truths nor facts. 3)The only oppinions that matter are those of the korean overlords at NCsoft, the game ends when they pull the plug, not sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayne.8563 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 > @"Westenev.5289" said: > ... at the risk of sounding ignorant, who is Chris Cleary? Chris had something to do with security. He on occasion banned players who really did crappy things publicly, he worked with the creator of a popular DPS program so that it could include build templates, and he answered people on reddit who tried to deny wrong doing by shooting them down publicly instead of letting them get away with stuff. I found his posts generally amusing and informative. I'm going to miss those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceman.4572 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 > @"lokh.2695" said: > Sad to see a big name go again. > > On the other hand, I wouldn't pay too much attention to Reddit. 1)It's even more toxic and "doom and gloom" than this forum 2)Same as here, the hate is only oppinions. Neither truths nor facts. 3)The only oppinions that matter are those of the korean overlords at NCsoft, the game ends when they pull the plug, not sooner or later. Yeah, but it would be cool to know if we're (still) dealing with a cash cow here or already giving attention to one of the poor dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokh.2695 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 > @"Vinceman.4572" said: > > @"lokh.2695" said: > > Sad to see a big name go again. > > > > On the other hand, I wouldn't pay too much attention to Reddit. 1)It's even more toxic and "doom and gloom" than this forum 2)Same as here, the hate is only oppinions. Neither truths nor facts. 3)The only oppinions that matter are those of the korean overlords at NCsoft, the game ends when they pull the plug, not sooner or later. > > Yeah, but it would be cool to know if we're (still) dealing with a cash cow here or already giving attention to one of the poor dogs. Sure, that would be nice. But I guess unless you're an investor, no one will give you that information. Everything else is speculation of more or less informed individuals. Sure anyone's free to speculate and/or speak their mind, but again, without numbers to back things up, numbers the average forum or reddit user doesn't have access to, opinions given will never go beyond speculation. Too many threads draw uninformed conclusions and present those as hard facts. That's why I tend to not pay too much attention to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugrakarma.9416 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 by hes past tweets hes seems just burned out, its happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Well I hope Chris's transistion goes well and hes happy with the results. Going from a man and working at anet for 7years to something else can be tough. Gl in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arden.7480 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 If you ever wonder why this op looks so weirdly constructed, it's just I took out an idea from one of Succession's scenes. I thought I'd mock Reddit and this sinking ship meme that makes me puke. So the message of this op is just: whatever, why to care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arden.7480 Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share Posted December 30, 2019 > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > @"Arden.7480" said: > > Chris is a man, but also he was an employee for 7 years, but no more. > Not sure if no more an employee or no more a man. Only you can answer that question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killthehealersffs.8940 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Next time LARP Pretenting you are a warmonger buttler , that tries to keep the house clean Jut like Hellsing Ultimate ...not good as the original (we dont talk about the endboss in the 13th ep...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince.1695 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Many people are very happy that he left considering he was responsible - at least he represented the issue - for the 0 hash bans that were totally unjustified and had to be solved via an GDPR inquiry from a player. Astonishing he was still with the company after the layoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristalyan.5728 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 > @"Westenev.5289" said: > ... at the risk of sounding ignorant, who is Chris Cleary? Chris Cleary is the ANet representative (or at least the person who spoke about this as the one who decided) who gave the green light for the use of a third party program into this game (contradicting the TOS of the game). And, indirectly, making harder now for ANet to monetize the Build Templates - because the third party program had this feature for free, and working better than what we have now for money. And, as a security leader, stating that all the juridical issues regarding the data collected by this program are not issues, and gathering data without the players consent is something legal. He was the person working in the security of the game field who was very active in giving economical advises and verdicts answering to many of the players complains regarding the imbalance of some materials sources compared with the demand. The times he was the security leader were the times when the PvP was "infected" by bots, cheaters, bug exploiters. Few were truly punished - the current state of PvP may be a result of that ... activity. Or inactivity. As the economical analyst - the actual position he filled after John Smith left ... I cannot comment. It seems that all his struggle to become the economical analyst of the game was only for record. When he reached the position he left the company. As a conclusion: Chris Cleary was one of the most capable ANet employees. He had answers for all kind of issues, most of them not related with the field he was involved. Shortly, a truly Jolly Joker useful in any situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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