Crab Fear.1624 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"TorQ.7041" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um how do u repeatedly spam infiltrator arrow 5 times in a row? Lmao that's 30 ini of 12 base or 15 max, oh wait u gonna follow ur hyperbole nonsense by spouting theirs roll for ini etc as if thieves build to produce more available ini at all cost? Maybe throw in trickery trait for ini on weapon swap to cuz u kno most thieves roll that vs slight of hand. Even then I'd love to see even four infiltrator arrows spammed on a biuld not specifically built to do just that, dont even know of 5 is possible if fully built for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > U guys gotta stop embarrassing ourselves constantly going on that thief has effectively infinite ini and evades to spam as it's getting old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And u are wrong about thieves skills buffed far more than others, look at head shot daze is 1/4 sec compared to the 3/4-1 sec + other classes have, yes cuz of ini resource. What's shield bash do dps and daze wise? Anyway their skills are far from buffed more than other classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire InI design means that it doesnt matter how bad some of the skills are, they just dont get used then. > > > > > > > > > > > > build is weighted by the strongest ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > thats why PW is spammed, thats why flanking is spammed thats why vault is spammed thats why SB 5 is spammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why thief will always be kitten to balanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory every single thief ability should be kitten, but they should cover specific cases, meaning you can exploit specific things out of enemies, but in reality there is nothing that can exploit evade/invuln spam so there are build that just spam 1 ability and call it a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to why thief builds are used now more then before? > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesmer nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > Holo nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rev nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > + thief depends on meta, since its the most mobile class of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop making kitten up. Swipe is not a buff it's a nerf. 1200 range is far more valuable than unblockanle because we already have boon removal for ageis. Steal was what made dp so good for backstab. That's why sindrender is now doing core dp because the tiny steal range makes it hard to backstab, amongst other dumb needs like blinding powder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills were not buffed. Where the kitten did you find that? Ecto was nerfed that was the only change to stolen skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comment on other stuff. But your blind hate on thief really makes you make kitten up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's obvious you played zero thief the. Complain about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff : > > > > > > > > > > October 01, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > Fixed a bug that could cause the shadowstep to fail in rare situations. Reduced recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills : > > > > > > > > > > No longer dissapear when you get interrupted -> 0 counterplay to plasma for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this is out of the way im awaiting apology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stolen abilities has nothing to do with swipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Landing swipe gives you stolen ability, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I see correlation there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steal, steals the same as swipe, where is the buff? > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = buffed stolen skills provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > even more so becouse swipe encourages close range playstyle > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have I missed something here? How does swipe differ from steal to make them "buffed" stolen skills? The cd is nice but that's it > > > > > > > > If you have lower CD on swipe then on steal. IT means you can use it more often. IT means you get stolen skills more often. It means the buff is stronger for swipe then steal. > > > > > > How you worded it, you was saying swipe gives a buff to stolen abilitys them selves > > > > can you quote the phrase that makes it sound so? cant really find it > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = **buffed stolen skills** provide more benefit to swipe over steal. I am having a case of Mandela effect. I could have sworn you were once a thief main, but your post history in recent times makes me question the past. Perhaps I am confused by icons. Really should just change all forum icons to food choices. We all know what I would choose. And by we all, I mean me and all the crazy I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TorQ.7041" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um how do u repeatedly spam infiltrator arrow 5 times in a row? Lmao that's 30 ini of 12 base or 15 max, oh wait u gonna follow ur hyperbole nonsense by spouting theirs roll for ini etc as if thieves build to produce more available ini at all cost? Maybe throw in trickery trait for ini on weapon swap to cuz u kno most thieves roll that vs slight of hand. Even then I'd love to see even four infiltrator arrows spammed on a biuld not specifically built to do just that, dont even know of 5 is possible if fully built for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U guys gotta stop embarrassing ourselves constantly going on that thief has effectively infinite ini and evades to spam as it's getting old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And u are wrong about thieves skills buffed far more than others, look at head shot daze is 1/4 sec compared to the 3/4-1 sec + other classes have, yes cuz of ini resource. What's shield bash do dps and daze wise? Anyway their skills are far from buffed more than other classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire InI design means that it doesnt matter how bad some of the skills are, they just dont get used then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > build is weighted by the strongest ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > thats why PW is spammed, thats why flanking is spammed thats why vault is spammed thats why SB 5 is spammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why thief will always be kitten to balanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory every single thief ability should be kitten, but they should cover specific cases, meaning you can exploit specific things out of enemies, but in reality there is nothing that can exploit evade/invuln spam so there are build that just spam 1 ability and call it a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to why thief builds are used now more then before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesmer nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holo nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rev nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > + thief depends on meta, since its the most mobile class of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop making kitten up. Swipe is not a buff it's a nerf. 1200 range is far more valuable than unblockanle because we already have boon removal for ageis. Steal was what made dp so good for backstab. That's why sindrender is now doing core dp because the tiny steal range makes it hard to backstab, amongst other dumb needs like blinding powder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills were not buffed. Where the kitten did you find that? Ecto was nerfed that was the only change to stolen skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comment on other stuff. But your blind hate on thief really makes you make kitten up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's obvious you played zero thief the. Complain about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff : > > > > > > > > > > > October 01, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > Fixed a bug that could cause the shadowstep to fail in rare situations. Reduced recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills : > > > > > > > > > > > No longer dissapear when you get interrupted -> 0 counterplay to plasma for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this is out of the way im awaiting apology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stolen abilities has nothing to do with swipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Landing swipe gives you stolen ability, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I see correlation there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steal, steals the same as swipe, where is the buff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = buffed stolen skills provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > even more so becouse swipe encourages close range playstyle > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have I missed something here? How does swipe differ from steal to make them "buffed" stolen skills? The cd is nice but that's it > > > > > > > > > > If you have lower CD on swipe then on steal. IT means you can use it more often. IT means you get stolen skills more often. It means the buff is stronger for swipe then steal. > > > > > > > > How you worded it, you was saying swipe gives a buff to stolen abilitys them selves > > > > > > can you quote the phrase that makes it sound so? cant really find it > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = **buffed stolen skills** provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > I am having a case of Mandela effect. > > I could have sworn you were once a thief main, but your post history in recent times makes me question the past. > > Perhaps I am confused by icons. > > Really should just change all forum icons to food choices. > > We all know what I would choose. > > And by we all, I mean me and all the crazy I got. Lol peeps change mains often in this game but even if he doesn't main it anymore he still probably knows how the class works. Not implying u said otherwise just stating lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TorQ.7041" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um how do u repeatedly spam infiltrator arrow 5 times in a row? Lmao that's 30 ini of 12 base or 15 max, oh wait u gonna follow ur hyperbole nonsense by spouting theirs roll for ini etc as if thieves build to produce more available ini at all cost? Maybe throw in trickery trait for ini on weapon swap to cuz u kno most thieves roll that vs slight of hand. Even then I'd love to see even four infiltrator arrows spammed on a biuld not specifically built to do just that, dont even know of 5 is possible if fully built for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U guys gotta stop embarrassing ourselves constantly going on that thief has effectively infinite ini and evades to spam as it's getting old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And u are wrong about thieves skills buffed far more than others, look at head shot daze is 1/4 sec compared to the 3/4-1 sec + other classes have, yes cuz of ini resource. What's shield bash do dps and daze wise? Anyway their skills are far from buffed more than other classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire InI design means that it doesnt matter how bad some of the skills are, they just dont get used then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > build is weighted by the strongest ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thats why PW is spammed, thats why flanking is spammed thats why vault is spammed thats why SB 5 is spammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why thief will always be kitten to balanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory every single thief ability should be kitten, but they should cover specific cases, meaning you can exploit specific things out of enemies, but in reality there is nothing that can exploit evade/invuln spam so there are build that just spam 1 ability and call it a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to why thief builds are used now more then before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesmer nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holo nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rev nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + thief depends on meta, since its the most mobile class of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop making kitten up. Swipe is not a buff it's a nerf. 1200 range is far more valuable than unblockanle because we already have boon removal for ageis. Steal was what made dp so good for backstab. That's why sindrender is now doing core dp because the tiny steal range makes it hard to backstab, amongst other dumb needs like blinding powder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills were not buffed. Where the kitten did you find that? Ecto was nerfed that was the only change to stolen skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comment on other stuff. But your blind hate on thief really makes you make kitten up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's obvious you played zero thief the. Complain about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff : > > > > > > > > > > > > October 01, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixed a bug that could cause the shadowstep to fail in rare situations. Reduced recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills : > > > > > > > > > > > > No longer dissapear when you get interrupted -> 0 counterplay to plasma for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this is out of the way im awaiting apology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stolen abilities has nothing to do with swipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Landing swipe gives you stolen ability, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I see correlation there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steal, steals the same as swipe, where is the buff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = buffed stolen skills provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > > even more so becouse swipe encourages close range playstyle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have I missed something here? How does swipe differ from steal to make them "buffed" stolen skills? The cd is nice but that's it > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have lower CD on swipe then on steal. IT means you can use it more often. IT means you get stolen skills more often. It means the buff is stronger for swipe then steal. > > > > > > > > > > How you worded it, you was saying swipe gives a buff to stolen abilitys them selves > > > > > > > > can you quote the phrase that makes it sound so? cant really find it > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = **buffed stolen skills** provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > I am having a case of Mandela effect. > > > > I could have sworn you were once a thief main, but your post history in recent times makes me question the past. > > > > Perhaps I am confused by icons. > > > > Really should just change all forum icons to food choices. > > > > We all know what I would choose. > > > > And by we all, I mean me and all the crazy I got. > > Lol peeps change mains often in this game but even if he doesn't main it anymore he still probably knows how the class works. I understand that. Just wondering how many turncoat thieves we got. I suspect a good chunk moved to mesmer, rev, or ranger. Many people can multi class. Most people have a main. Perhaps considerable players can say the main two, but c'mon there's still a main main. Very few can say they main all classes. From my experience most multiclassers only main metas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TorQ.7041" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um how do u repeatedly spam infiltrator arrow 5 times in a row? Lmao that's 30 ini of 12 base or 15 max, oh wait u gonna follow ur hyperbole nonsense by spouting theirs roll for ini etc as if thieves build to produce more available ini at all cost? Maybe throw in trickery trait for ini on weapon swap to cuz u kno most thieves roll that vs slight of hand. Even then I'd love to see even four infiltrator arrows spammed on a biuld not specifically built to do just that, dont even know of 5 is possible if fully built for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U guys gotta stop embarrassing ourselves constantly going on that thief has effectively infinite ini and evades to spam as it's getting old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And u are wrong about thieves skills buffed far more than others, look at head shot daze is 1/4 sec compared to the 3/4-1 sec + other classes have, yes cuz of ini resource. What's shield bash do dps and daze wise? Anyway their skills are far from buffed more than other classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire InI design means that it doesnt matter how bad some of the skills are, they just dont get used then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > build is weighted by the strongest ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thats why PW is spammed, thats why flanking is spammed thats why vault is spammed thats why SB 5 is spammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why thief will always be kitten to balanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory every single thief ability should be kitten, but they should cover specific cases, meaning you can exploit specific things out of enemies, but in reality there is nothing that can exploit evade/invuln spam so there are build that just spam 1 ability and call it a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to why thief builds are used now more then before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesmer nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holo nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rev nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + thief depends on meta, since its the most mobile class of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop making kitten up. Swipe is not a buff it's a nerf. 1200 range is far more valuable than unblockanle because we already have boon removal for ageis. Steal was what made dp so good for backstab. That's why sindrender is now doing core dp because the tiny steal range makes it hard to backstab, amongst other dumb needs like blinding powder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills were not buffed. Where the kitten did you find that? Ecto was nerfed that was the only change to stolen skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comment on other stuff. But your blind hate on thief really makes you make kitten up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's obvious you played zero thief the. Complain about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff : > > > > > > > > > > > > > October 01, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixed a bug that could cause the shadowstep to fail in rare situations. Reduced recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills : > > > > > > > > > > > > > No longer dissapear when you get interrupted -> 0 counterplay to plasma for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this is out of the way im awaiting apology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stolen abilities has nothing to do with swipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Landing swipe gives you stolen ability, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I see correlation there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steal, steals the same as swipe, where is the buff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = buffed stolen skills provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > > > even more so becouse swipe encourages close range playstyle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have I missed something here? How does swipe differ from steal to make them "buffed" stolen skills? The cd is nice but that's it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have lower CD on swipe then on steal. IT means you can use it more often. IT means you get stolen skills more often. It means the buff is stronger for swipe then steal. > > > > > > > > > > > > How you worded it, you was saying swipe gives a buff to stolen abilitys them selves > > > > > > > > > > can you quote the phrase that makes it sound so? cant really find it > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = **buffed stolen skills** provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > I am having a case of Mandela effect. > > > > > > I could have sworn you were once a thief main, but your post history in recent times makes me question the past. > > > > > > Perhaps I am confused by icons. > > > > > > Really should just change all forum icons to food choices. > > > > > > We all know what I would choose. > > > > > > And by we all, I mean me and all the crazy I got. > > > > Lol peeps change mains often in this game but even if he doesn't main it anymore he still probably knows how the class works. > > I understand that. > > Just wondering how many turncoat thieves we got. > > I suspect a good chunk moved to mesmer, rev, or ranger. +1 for warrior lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TorQ.7041" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um how do u repeatedly spam infiltrator arrow 5 times in a row? Lmao that's 30 ini of 12 base or 15 max, oh wait u gonna follow ur hyperbole nonsense by spouting theirs roll for ini etc as if thieves build to produce more available ini at all cost? Maybe throw in trickery trait for ini on weapon swap to cuz u kno most thieves roll that vs slight of hand. Even then I'd love to see even four infiltrator arrows spammed on a biuld not specifically built to do just that, dont even know of 5 is possible if fully built for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U guys gotta stop embarrassing ourselves constantly going on that thief has effectively infinite ini and evades to spam as it's getting old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And u are wrong about thieves skills buffed far more than others, look at head shot daze is 1/4 sec compared to the 3/4-1 sec + other classes have, yes cuz of ini resource. What's shield bash do dps and daze wise? Anyway their skills are far from buffed more than other classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire InI design means that it doesnt matter how bad some of the skills are, they just dont get used then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > build is weighted by the strongest ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thats why PW is spammed, thats why flanking is spammed thats why vault is spammed thats why SB 5 is spammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why thief will always be kitten to balanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory every single thief ability should be kitten, but they should cover specific cases, meaning you can exploit specific things out of enemies, but in reality there is nothing that can exploit evade/invuln spam so there are build that just spam 1 ability and call it a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to why thief builds are used now more then before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesmer nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holo nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rev nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + thief depends on meta, since its the most mobile class of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop making kitten up. Swipe is not a buff it's a nerf. 1200 range is far more valuable than unblockanle because we already have boon removal for ageis. Steal was what made dp so good for backstab. That's why sindrender is now doing core dp because the tiny steal range makes it hard to backstab, amongst other dumb needs like blinding powder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills were not buffed. Where the kitten did you find that? Ecto was nerfed that was the only change to stolen skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comment on other stuff. But your blind hate on thief really makes you make kitten up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's obvious you played zero thief the. Complain about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October 01, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixed a bug that could cause the shadowstep to fail in rare situations. Reduced recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No longer dissapear when you get interrupted -> 0 counterplay to plasma for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this is out of the way im awaiting apology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stolen abilities has nothing to do with swipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Landing swipe gives you stolen ability, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I see correlation there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steal, steals the same as swipe, where is the buff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = buffed stolen skills provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > > > > even more so becouse swipe encourages close range playstyle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have I missed something here? How does swipe differ from steal to make them "buffed" stolen skills? The cd is nice but that's it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have lower CD on swipe then on steal. IT means you can use it more often. IT means you get stolen skills more often. It means the buff is stronger for swipe then steal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How you worded it, you was saying swipe gives a buff to stolen abilitys them selves > > > > > > > > > > > > can you quote the phrase that makes it sound so? cant really find it > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = **buffed stolen skills** provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > > I am having a case of Mandela effect. > > > > > > > > I could have sworn you were once a thief main, but your post history in recent times makes me question the past. > > > > > > > > Perhaps I am confused by icons. > > > > > > > > Really should just change all forum icons to food choices. > > > > > > > > We all know what I would choose. > > > > > > > > And by we all, I mean me and all the crazy I got. > > > > > > Lol peeps change mains often in this game but even if he doesn't main it anymore he still probably knows how the class works. > > > > I understand that. > > > > Just wondering how many turncoat thieves we got. > > > > I suspect a good chunk moved to mesmer, rev, or ranger. > > +1 for warrior lol I fought against you on your ranger, otherwise I would never have even mentioned that class, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TorQ.7041" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um how do u repeatedly spam infiltrator arrow 5 times in a row? Lmao that's 30 ini of 12 base or 15 max, oh wait u gonna follow ur hyperbole nonsense by spouting theirs roll for ini etc as if thieves build to produce more available ini at all cost? Maybe throw in trickery trait for ini on weapon swap to cuz u kno most thieves roll that vs slight of hand. Even then I'd love to see even four infiltrator arrows spammed on a biuld not specifically built to do just that, dont even know of 5 is possible if fully built for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U guys gotta stop embarrassing ourselves constantly going on that thief has effectively infinite ini and evades to spam as it's getting old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And u are wrong about thieves skills buffed far more than others, look at head shot daze is 1/4 sec compared to the 3/4-1 sec + other classes have, yes cuz of ini resource. What's shield bash do dps and daze wise? Anyway their skills are far from buffed more than other classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire InI design means that it doesnt matter how bad some of the skills are, they just dont get used then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > build is weighted by the strongest ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thats why PW is spammed, thats why flanking is spammed thats why vault is spammed thats why SB 5 is spammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why thief will always be kitten to balanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory every single thief ability should be kitten, but they should cover specific cases, meaning you can exploit specific things out of enemies, but in reality there is nothing that can exploit evade/invuln spam so there are build that just spam 1 ability and call it a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to why thief builds are used now more then before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesmer nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holo nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rev nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + thief depends on meta, since its the most mobile class of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop making kitten up. Swipe is not a buff it's a nerf. 1200 range is far more valuable than unblockanle because we already have boon removal for ageis. Steal was what made dp so good for backstab. That's why sindrender is now doing core dp because the tiny steal range makes it hard to backstab, amongst other dumb needs like blinding powder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills were not buffed. Where the kitten did you find that? Ecto was nerfed that was the only change to stolen skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comment on other stuff. But your blind hate on thief really makes you make kitten up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's obvious you played zero thief the. Complain about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October 01, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixed a bug that could cause the shadowstep to fail in rare situations. Reduced recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No longer dissapear when you get interrupted -> 0 counterplay to plasma for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this is out of the way im awaiting apology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stolen abilities has nothing to do with swipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Landing swipe gives you stolen ability, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I see correlation there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steal, steals the same as swipe, where is the buff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = buffed stolen skills provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > > > > > even more so becouse swipe encourages close range playstyle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have I missed something here? How does swipe differ from steal to make them "buffed" stolen skills? The cd is nice but that's it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have lower CD on swipe then on steal. IT means you can use it more often. IT means you get stolen skills more often. It means the buff is stronger for swipe then steal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How you worded it, you was saying swipe gives a buff to stolen abilitys them selves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can you quote the phrase that makes it sound so? cant really find it > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = **buffed stolen skills** provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > > > > I am having a case of Mandela effect. > > > > > > > > > > I could have sworn you were once a thief main, but your post history in recent times makes me question the past. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I am confused by icons. > > > > > > > > > > Really should just change all forum icons to food choices. > > > > > > > > > > We all know what I would choose. > > > > > > > > > > And by we all, I mean me and all the crazy I got. > > > > > > > > Lol peeps change mains often in this game but even if he doesn't main it anymore he still probably knows how the class works. > > > > > > I understand that. > > > > > > Just wondering how many turncoat thieves we got. > > > > > > I suspect a good chunk moved to mesmer, rev, or ranger. > > > > +1 for warrior lol > > I fought against you on your ranger, otherwise I would never have even mentioned that class, lol. Lol yeah I try and play all classes often enough so I could fight them on my thief but now pretty much sticking to spellbreaker, warrior turned out a lot more fun than I always gave it credit for lol. I can only assume how noobish my ranger game seems lol but it's fun to play sometimes to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TorQ.7041" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um how do u repeatedly spam infiltrator arrow 5 times in a row? Lmao that's 30 ini of 12 base or 15 max, oh wait u gonna follow ur hyperbole nonsense by spouting theirs roll for ini etc as if thieves build to produce more available ini at all cost? Maybe throw in trickery trait for ini on weapon swap to cuz u kno most thieves roll that vs slight of hand. Even then I'd love to see even four infiltrator arrows spammed on a biuld not specifically built to do just that, dont even know of 5 is possible if fully built for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U guys gotta stop embarrassing ourselves constantly going on that thief has effectively infinite ini and evades to spam as it's getting old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And u are wrong about thieves skills buffed far more than others, look at head shot daze is 1/4 sec compared to the 3/4-1 sec + other classes have, yes cuz of ini resource. What's shield bash do dps and daze wise? Anyway their skills are far from buffed more than other classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire InI design means that it doesnt matter how bad some of the skills are, they just dont get used then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > build is weighted by the strongest ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thats why PW is spammed, thats why flanking is spammed thats why vault is spammed thats why SB 5 is spammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why thief will always be kitten to balanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory every single thief ability should be kitten, but they should cover specific cases, meaning you can exploit specific things out of enemies, but in reality there is nothing that can exploit evade/invuln spam so there are build that just spam 1 ability and call it a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to why thief builds are used now more then before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesmer nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holo nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rev nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + thief depends on meta, since its the most mobile class of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop making kitten up. Swipe is not a buff it's a nerf. 1200 range is far more valuable than unblockanle because we already have boon removal for ageis. Steal was what made dp so good for backstab. That's why sindrender is now doing core dp because the tiny steal range makes it hard to backstab, amongst other dumb needs like blinding powder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills were not buffed. Where the kitten did you find that? Ecto was nerfed that was the only change to stolen skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comment on other stuff. But your blind hate on thief really makes you make kitten up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's obvious you played zero thief the. Complain about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October 01, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fixed a bug that could cause the shadowstep to fail in rare situations. Reduced recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No longer dissapear when you get interrupted -> 0 counterplay to plasma for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this is out of the way im awaiting apology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stolen abilities has nothing to do with swipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Landing swipe gives you stolen ability, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I see correlation there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steal, steals the same as swipe, where is the buff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = buffed stolen skills provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > > > > > > even more so becouse swipe encourages close range playstyle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have I missed something here? How does swipe differ from steal to make them "buffed" stolen skills? The cd is nice but that's it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have lower CD on swipe then on steal. IT means you can use it more often. IT means you get stolen skills more often. It means the buff is stronger for swipe then steal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How you worded it, you was saying swipe gives a buff to stolen abilitys them selves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can you quote the phrase that makes it sound so? cant really find it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = **buffed stolen skills** provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am having a case of Mandela effect. > > > > > > > > > > > > I could have sworn you were once a thief main, but your post history in recent times makes me question the past. > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I am confused by icons. > > > > > > > > > > > > Really should just change all forum icons to food choices. > > > > > > > > > > > > We all know what I would choose. > > > > > > > > > > > > And by we all, I mean me and all the crazy I got. > > > > > > > > > > Lol peeps change mains often in this game but even if he doesn't main it anymore he still probably knows how the class works. > > > > > > > > I understand that. > > > > > > > > Just wondering how many turncoat thieves we got. > > > > > > > > I suspect a good chunk moved to mesmer, rev, or ranger. > > > > > > +1 for warrior lol > > > > I fought against you on your ranger, otherwise I would never have even mentioned that class, lol. > > Lol yeah I try and play all classes often enough so I could fight them on my thief but now pretty much sticking to spellbreaker, warrior turned out a lot more fun than I always gave it credit for lol. I can only assume how noobish my ranger game seems lol but it's fun to play sometimes to Last few night rolled my shoishi toon and had the other team say my team was lucky I carried mine on dp thief of all builds than a few others where I was called a garbage no skill thief cuz of a lot of one shot backstabs lol to the point one game the three times I died the players would jump and lay down on my dead corpse lol. The salt permastealth dp build causes is amusing from time to time, not well liked I guess lol. Few nights ago noody was in arena and I one shot backstabbed his DE from full hp than ran and left arena cuz hed probably absolutely destroy me in most scenarios haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 > @"Crab Fear.1624" said: > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TorQ.7041" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um how do u repeatedly spam infiltrator arrow 5 times in a row? Lmao that's 30 ini of 12 base or 15 max, oh wait u gonna follow ur hyperbole nonsense by spouting theirs roll for ini etc as if thieves build to produce more available ini at all cost? Maybe throw in trickery trait for ini on weapon swap to cuz u kno most thieves roll that vs slight of hand. Even then I'd love to see even four infiltrator arrows spammed on a biuld not specifically built to do just that, dont even know of 5 is possible if fully built for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U guys gotta stop embarrassing ourselves constantly going on that thief has effectively infinite ini and evades to spam as it's getting old. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And u are wrong about thieves skills buffed far more than others, look at head shot daze is 1/4 sec compared to the 3/4-1 sec + other classes have, yes cuz of ini resource. What's shield bash do dps and daze wise? Anyway their skills are far from buffed more than other classes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire InI design means that it doesnt matter how bad some of the skills are, they just dont get used then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > build is weighted by the strongest ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > thats why PW is spammed, thats why flanking is spammed thats why vault is spammed thats why SB 5 is spammed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why thief will always be kitten to balanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory every single thief ability should be kitten, but they should cover specific cases, meaning you can exploit specific things out of enemies, but in reality there is nothing that can exploit evade/invuln spam so there are build that just spam 1 ability and call it a day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As to why thief builds are used now more then before? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills buff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesmer nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Holo nerfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rev nerf. > > > > > > > > > > > > > + thief depends on meta, since its the most mobile class of all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stop making kitten up. Swipe is not a buff it's a nerf. 1200 range is far more valuable than unblockanle because we already have boon removal for ageis. Steal was what made dp so good for backstab. That's why sindrender is now doing core dp because the tiny steal range makes it hard to backstab, amongst other dumb needs like blinding powder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills were not buffed. Where the kitten did you find that? Ecto was nerfed that was the only change to stolen skills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No comment on other stuff. But your blind hate on thief really makes you make kitten up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's obvious you played zero thief the. Complain about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swipe buff : > > > > > > > > > > > October 01, 2019 > > > > > > > > > > > Fixed a bug that could cause the shadowstep to fail in rare situations. Reduced recharge from 30 seconds to 25 seconds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stolen skills : > > > > > > > > > > > No longer dissapear when you get interrupted -> 0 counterplay to plasma for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this is out of the way im awaiting apology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The stolen abilities has nothing to do with swipe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Landing swipe gives you stolen ability, I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I see correlation there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steal, steals the same as swipe, where is the buff? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = buffed stolen skills provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > > > > > > even more so becouse swipe encourages close range playstyle > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, have I missed something here? How does swipe differ from steal to make them "buffed" stolen skills? The cd is nice but that's it > > > > > > > > > > If you have lower CD on swipe then on steal. IT means you can use it more often. IT means you get stolen skills more often. It means the buff is stronger for swipe then steal. > > > > > > > > How you worded it, you was saying swipe gives a buff to stolen abilitys them selves > > > > > > can you quote the phrase that makes it sound so? cant really find it > > > > lower cd = you steal more often = you have stolen skills more often = **buffed stolen skills** provide more benefit to swipe over steal. > > I am having a case of Mandela effect. > > I could have sworn you were once a thief main, but your post history in recent times makes me question the past. > > Perhaps I am confused by icons. > > Really should just change all forum icons to food choices. > > We all know what I would choose. > > And by we all, I mean me and all the crazy I got. ofc i main... 50/50 war. i knew the "buff" meant the cd on swipe is lower than steal. it was worded in a way i read he means stolen skills are "buffed" with swipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 > @"Sikieiki.3189" said: > The reason why people didn't complain about s/p daredevil is because staff/staff was way more broken and condi s/d daredevil was already better than core s/d untill anet heavily nerfed condi thief. Because sword2 allows you to move 2000 range instantly for inly 5 initiative when you place your return smart and pistolwhip scales really well with multipliers people started running s/p over d/p for power daredevil. The only reason there weren't complains about the current iteration of thief is because condi and staff/staff were even more broken. I mean that’s reasonable if we’re talking about meta as those 2 builds were strong enough to be meta, but as far as mATs pistol whip seemed obviously playable even at that time. Commonly teams would have 2 fbs which makes a condition build bad at plussing so why run condition thief and staff bunker had a completely different role from the rest of the thief builds so why limit yourself to 1 thief build. The pistol whip at the time staff and condition thief were around could very well be one of the best thief builds for top teir play and ppl didn’t play it much at all so why complain about it now when it was literally ignored entirely. It seems ppl are more likely to complain about builds lacking skillful play. That’s most likely why it was ignored as ppl were obviously willing to complain about the other “skillless builds” at the time and that seems to be the number 1 complaint about pistolwhip now- that it is skillless, even though ppl literally ignored the fact that it was good in top tier until what like half a year later after their favorite skillless build got balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasylife.7981 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Because Thief, Mesmer and Heavy condition classes like Firebrand and Weaver are busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now