Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. This is obviously a satire thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeikeNz.3526 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 sure why not? i made the changes just download the new patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > sure why not? i made the changes just download the new patch Thanks bruh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 As soon as thief gets an extra 8k HP, ~200 armour, access to high amounts of might generation and non evasion/stealth based sustain maybe then we can talk. All this PW salt is getting a little ridiculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > As soon as thief gets an extra 8k HP, ~200 armour, access to high amounts of might generation and non evasion/stealth based sustain maybe then we can talk. All this PW salt is getting a little ridiculous... Because PW is a little ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laera Myrith.7605 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > This is obviously a satire thread... > Sure if you have also have lowest base HP, it roots you and your expected to be a decap bot :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 And thief should have 18k base HP, full counter, adrenal health and perma 25 might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laera Myrith.7605 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > As soon as thief gets an extra 8k HP, ~200 armour, access to high amounts of might generation and non evasion/stealth based sustain maybe then we can talk. All this PW salt is getting a little ridiculous... It's ok, lets take a trip to the zoo to feed the trolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > This is obviously a satire thread... > > > > Sure if you have also have lowest base HP, it roots you and your expected to be a decap bot :tongue: If there is no risk to using the skill, it doesn't matter if you have 2 HP. Get that weak excuse outa here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laera Myrith.7605 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > > > This is obviously a satire thread... > > > > > > > Sure if you have also have lowest base HP, it roots you and your expected to be a decap bot :tongue: > > If there is no risk to using the skill, it doesn't matter if you have 2 HP. Get that weak excuse outa here Roll a thief play PW and tell me there is no risk, then we can talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. Warrior has a lot of cc that can lead into it. They also generally don't need to bail or spend the rest of their rotation dodging things for half their HP, so for them probably evade is a bit much. Totally for giving it a damage buff though. it's hard to land, almost impossible to get the last hit. Last hit would be neat if it also stunned you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > > > > > This is obviously a satire thread... > > > > > > > > > > Sure if you have also have lowest base HP, it roots you and your expected to be a decap bot :tongue: > > > > If there is no risk to using the skill, it doesn't matter if you have 2 HP. Get that weak excuse outa here > > Roll a thief play PW and tell me there is no risk, then we can talk I have a few hundred hours on thief, I think I know enough to speak to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > > As soon as thief gets an extra 8k HP, ~200 armour, access to high amounts of might generation and non evasion/stealth based sustain maybe then we can talk. All this PW salt is getting a little ridiculous... > > Because PW is a little ridiculous No ur ridiculous pooh pooh face.. . Oh Burn! No burn backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laera Myrith.7605 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > > > > > > > This is obviously a satire thread... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure if you have also have lowest base HP, it roots you and your expected to be a decap bot :tongue: > > > > > > If there is no risk to using the skill, it doesn't matter if you have 2 HP. Get that weak excuse outa here > > > > Roll a thief play PW and tell me there is no risk, then we can talk > > I have a few hundred hours on thief, I think I know enough to speak to it. Then why didn't you complain about it years ago, because not all that much has changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > Warrior has a lot of cc that can lead into it. They also generally don't need to bail or spend the rest of their rotation dodging things for half their HP. > Totally for giving it a damage buff though. it's hard to land, almost impossible to get the last hit. > Nahhhh, that doesn't fit the current meta though. It's got to be invuln **while** doing damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is obviously a satire thread... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure if you have also have lowest base HP, it roots you and your expected to be a decap bot :tongue: > > > > > > > > If there is no risk to using the skill, it doesn't matter if you have 2 HP. Get that weak excuse outa here > > > > > > Roll a thief play PW and tell me there is no risk, then we can talk > > > > I have a few hundred hours on thief, I think I know enough to speak to it. > > Then why didn't you complain about it years ago, because not all that much has changed Here we go again. Just because the skill hasn't changed that doesn't mean everything else hasn't. There are sleeper builds that don't come to light until someone tries it out and wha-la, another annoying build is found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laera Myrith.7605 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is obviously a satire thread... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure if you have also have lowest base HP, it roots you and your expected to be a decap bot :tongue: > > > > > > > > > > If there is no risk to using the skill, it doesn't matter if you have 2 HP. Get that weak excuse outa here > > > > > > > > Roll a thief play PW and tell me there is no risk, then we can talk > > > > > > I have a few hundred hours on thief, I think I know enough to speak to it. > > > > Then why didn't you complain about it years ago, because not all that much has changed > > Here we go again. Just because the skill hasn't changed that doesn't mean everything else hasn't. There are sleeper builds that don't come to light until someone tries it out and wha-la, another annoying build is found. Okay so what class do you play ATM? because many have the ability to wreck PW thief just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Ragnar.4257" said: > And thief should have 18k base HP, full counter, adrenal health and perma 25 might. I like where this is going. Can we also give memser 3 dodges? We're on to something here I think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > Warrior has a lot of cc that can lead into it. They also generally don't need to bail or spend the rest of their rotation dodging things for half their HP. > > Totally for giving it a damage buff though. it's hard to land, almost impossible to get the last hit. > > > > Nahhhh, that doesn't fit the current meta though. It's got to be invuln **while** doing damage. **Cautiously eyes fishhook** It already can do that, without being rooted. Three of its skills give it 0 damage windows. Four if you take zerker~ It would make sense if it were __more squishy__ but not as it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > > > @"Laera Myrith.7605" said: > > > > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is obviously a satire thread... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure if you have also have lowest base HP, it roots you and your expected to be a decap bot :tongue: > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is no risk to using the skill, it doesn't matter if you have 2 HP. Get that weak excuse outa here > > > > > > > > > > Roll a thief play PW and tell me there is no risk, then we can talk > > > > > > > > I have a few hundred hours on thief, I think I know enough to speak to it. > > > > > > Then why didn't you complain about it years ago, because not all that much has changed > > > > Here we go again. Just because the skill hasn't changed that doesn't mean everything else hasn't. There are sleeper builds that don't come to light until someone tries it out and wha-la, another annoying build is found. > > Okay so what class do you play ATM? because many have the ability to wreck PW thief just saying. A hand full. Warrior, thief, ele, guardian. It's not about the counter play honestly, it's that it's a complete bummer to fight against. I wasn't targeting specifically PW in this post either, just all the OP overloaded unfun skills/combos floating around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > > > Warrior has a lot of cc that can lead into it. They also generally don't need to bail or spend the rest of their rotation dodging things for half their HP. > > > Totally for giving it a damage buff though. it's hard to land, almost impossible to get the last hit. > > > > > > > Nahhhh, that doesn't fit the current meta though. It's got to be invuln **while** doing damage. > > **Cautiously eyes fishhook** > > It already can do that, without being rooted. Three of its skills give it 0 damage windows. Four if you take zerker~ > It would make sense if it were __more squishy__ but not as it is now. That's too many buttons. Why can't I just have it on the one button? Would make life much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laera Myrith.7605 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > A hand full. Warrior, thief, ele, guardian. It's not about the counter play honestly, it's that it's a complete bummer to fight against. I wasn't targeting specifically PW in this post either, just all the OP overloaded unfun skills/combos floating around. Then just wait for March when we might get the balance patch and see what happens, PW has counterplay despite being "unfun to play against", there are already enough "nerf this" threads as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar.4257 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Can we just rename "Thief" to "Warrior" and "Warrior" to "Thief" ? It's what they secretly all want. Apparently all the warriors want teleports and evades, and all the thieves want sustain and chunky melee attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > > > As soon as thief gets an extra 8k HP, ~200 armour, access to high amounts of might generation and non evasion/stealth based sustain maybe then we can talk. All this PW salt is getting a little ridiculous... > > > > Because PW is a little ridiculous > > No ur ridiculous pooh pooh face.. . Oh > Burn! > > No burn backs. > Gah, you got me....i've been played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > @"Azure The Heartless.3261" said: > > > > > @"Zexanima.7851" said: > > > > > It's not like warrior can shadow step AND the skill is on a cooldown so why not? Damage while invlun? Check. Overloaded skill? Check. I mean, I can't believe this change hasn't already been made. Seems right up the ally of the current meta. > > > > > > > > Warrior has a lot of cc that can lead into it. They also generally don't need to bail or spend the rest of their rotation dodging things for half their HP. > > > > Totally for giving it a damage buff though. it's hard to land, almost impossible to get the last hit. > > > > > > > > > > Nahhhh, that doesn't fit the current meta though. It's got to be invuln **while** doing damage. > > > > **Cautiously eyes fishhook** > > > > It already can do that, without being rooted. Three of its skills give it 0 damage windows. Four if you take zerker~ > > It would make sense if it were __more squishy__ but not as it is now. > > That's too many buttons. Why can't I just have it on the one button? Would make life much easier. And more boring trust me doesn't make it better lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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