Josiah.2967 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Was the intent to scare people from raiding? Not sure how anyone thinks this is easier than raiding...or a good introduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwigma.2385 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 you are right ! this one is really scary , not fun at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasi.9065 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Pretty sure its (still) simply bugged, half the time the mechanics arent in sync - we tried lighting all torches (and succeeded) but the dmg kept ticking for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoRi Silvia.4159 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I would still say it's easier than most of the bosses in raids. The reason skinner fails 90% of the time is mechanics, especially the ground circle aoes of doom, people dodge too late or dont dodge at all. Skinner actually needs a good composition of classes to complete easier, still seeing pugs put out under 4k dmg when they playing dps... People really should start looking at rotations and builds if they want to get involved with these harder content and actually utilize your class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowmoon.7986 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 > @"DoRi Silvia.4159" said: > I would still say it's easier than most of the bosses in raids. > > The reason skinner fails 90% of the time is mechanics, especially the ground circle aoes of doom, people dodge too late or dont dodge at all. > > Skinner actually needs a good composition of classes to complete easier, still seeing pugs put out under 4k dmg when they playing dps... > > People really should start looking at rotations and builds if they want to get involved with these harder content and actually utilize your class. > > Bone skinner in its current state is bugged. It is doing more damage than what is intended. It appears it was "fixed" in last weeks hot fix patches, but apparently not and because it was not on the rotation so no one knew until now. Now we probably have to wait til next week for a fix, and another 2 weeks to see if the fix worked for it to show up on the rotation. And if it still is not fixed we could wait even longer for a fix. The fact that ruler of the sky achievements told over 6 months to fix makes me very worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoRi Silvia.4159 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 > @"Shadowmoon.7986" said: > > @"DoRi Silvia.4159" said: > > I would still say it's easier than most of the bosses in raids. > > > > The reason skinner fails 90% of the time is mechanics, especially the ground circle aoes of doom, people dodge too late or dont dodge at all. > > > > Skinner actually needs a good composition of classes to complete easier, still seeing pugs put out under 4k dmg when they playing dps... > > > > People really should start looking at rotations and builds if they want to get involved with these harder content and actually utilize your class. > > > > > > Bone skinner in its current state is bugged. It is doing more damage than what is intended. It appears it was "fixed" in last weeks hot fix patches, but apparently not and because it was not on the rotation so no one knew until now. Now we probably have to wait til next week for a fix, and another 2 weeks to see if the fix worked for it to show up on the rotation. And if it still is not fixed we could wait even longer for a fix. The fact that ruler of the sky achievements told over 6 months to fix makes me very worried. I realized this yesterday when doing it with a group, had 3 heals and we couldn't out heal the dmg when people were avoiding circles.. Hopefully a quick fix will be released by anet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanity Obscure.6054 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Was able to beat it about 3 times today. However, the Deathless Hunt Achievo for not downing or dying is about as difficult as a challenge mode Raid. Need a full team consisting of mostly Trailblazer and a couple heal Scourges with spectral grasp to pull the wisps in, and a few Minstrel Firebrands to heal through mechanics and, and a single tanky Rev for alacrity. No room for error with your armor. No DPS builds or you will get btfo, and everyone will R-U-N-N-O-F-T out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 > @"DoRi Silvia.4159" said: > > @"Shadowmoon.7986" said: > > > @"DoRi Silvia.4159" said: > > > I would still say it's easier than most of the bosses in raids. > > > > > > The reason skinner fails 90% of the time is mechanics, especially the ground circle aoes of doom, people dodge too late or dont dodge at all. > > > > > > Skinner actually needs a good composition of classes to complete easier, still seeing pugs put out under 4k dmg when they playing dps... > > > > > > People really should start looking at rotations and builds if they want to get involved with these harder content and actually utilize your class. > > > > > > > > > > Bone skinner in its current state is bugged. It is doing more damage than what is intended. It appears it was "fixed" in last weeks hot fix patches, but apparently not and because it was not on the rotation so no one knew until now. Now we probably have to wait til next week for a fix, and another 2 weeks to see if the fix worked for it to show up on the rotation. And if it still is not fixed we could wait even longer for a fix. The fact that ruler of the sky achievements told over 6 months to fix makes me very worried. > > I realized this yesterday when doing it with a group, had 3 heals and we couldn't out heal the dmg when people were avoiding circles.. > > Hopefully a quick fix will be released by anet Quick as in a few more weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah.2967 Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Well now we know it is bugged. > @"Fire Attunement.9835" said: > You’re right, the Boneskinner in the strike mission is still acting up and is now doing the extra damage via a new bug. (Boneskinner’s haunted.) > > We’re sorry about that, but we’ve identified a fix that should take care of it for good and we’ll have it implemented in time for the next rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eramonster.2718 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 > @"Yasi.9065" said: > Pretty sure its (still) simply bugged, half the time the mechanics arent in sync - we tried lighting all torches (and succeeded) but the dmg kept ticking for example. You're not wrong, there's another aura ticking around 882 damage every 3 seconds(can't be avoided). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcore.5621 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokeenoppa.5384 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen There isn't anything toxic in raids. There isn't any NPCs shouting "you are trash" or neither is any of the bosses blaming you about anything. Players can be toxic just like in other game modes and even this is kinda rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaswer.5246 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Ok one sec Boneskinner is a difficult boss (it might still be bugged too) but maybe that is what anet wanted , i mean , 1 strike was easy (very easy if you are a raider) , then kodan and the havrun or whatever its name is arent that difficult (id say medium level or so) and bone and wisper are difficult . Am i the only one that sees it as a progresion for new players? You start with the golem and that catches your attention , the kodand and havrun start to make it difficult and bone and wisper are impossible unless you search a tiny tiny bit and start learning builds , rotations , cc bars, evades etc. I mean if you kill all strikes you can go to vg with confidence in your skills and im sure you will kill it once you know its mechs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeftheWicked.3076 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Boneskinner is simply bugged. I do whisper of jormag daily, usually without issues (if my team knows what they're doing) and that is a proper strike mission with pre-raid difficulty and a mini-raid boss feel. Boneskinner in it's current bugged state is a hardcore challenge, certainly not a "pre-raid" difficulty and not a part of growing difficulty curve that should place it above other sanctum strikes, but below or at most equal to Whisper of Jormag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebeard.1746 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. > > Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebeard.1746 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > > > > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. > > > > Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. > > How? Because they're unwilling to actually build a community in the name of speed clears. Also the data on # of Lis vs your percentile in the community is hilarious in the context of "bring massive kp" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > > > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > > > > > > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. > > > > > > Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. > > > > How? > > Because they're unwilling to actually build a community in the name of speed clears. Also the data on # of Lis vs your percentile in the community is hilarious in the context of "bring massive kp" That's not an answer to how "The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shikaru.7618 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > > > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > > > > > > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. > > > > > > Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. > > > > How? > > Because they're unwilling to actually build a community in the name of speed clears. Also the data on # of Lis vs your percentile in the community is hilarious in the context of "bring massive kp" Except there are literally communities dedicated to growing the raid scene and newbie raiders. For some reason people decide to ignore them so they can go join lfgs they're clearly not qualified for based on the lfg posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinceman.4572 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > > > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > > > > > > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. > > > > > > Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. > > > > How? > > Because they're unwilling to actually build a community in the name of speed clears. Also the data on # of Lis vs your percentile in the community is hilarious in the context of "bring massive kp" Do you even play this game? Serious question because your 2 sentences make no sense at all and therefore are utter bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebeard.1746 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 > @"Shikaru.7618" said: > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > > > > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > > > > > > > > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. > > > > > > > > Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. > > > > > > How? > > > > Because they're unwilling to actually build a community in the name of speed clears. Also the data on # of Lis vs your percentile in the community is hilarious in the context of "bring massive kp" > > Except there are literally communities dedicated to growing the raid scene and newbie raiders. For some reason people decide to ignore them so they can go join lfgs they're clearly not qualified for based on the lfg posting. There is ONE in NA, and basically you're like waiting around for someone to take you. Sure. They told me I am not even aloud to ping for PuG groups in Disc. So yeah, it's great. Everything the community has constructed is based around gating to a particular elite, I have to get special training to make a group. Like I can't just watch videos and ask other people who are interested in the content and study it on their own time like me. It's awesome. I would have expected a discord community to be a bit looser as it's understood the people participating would be figuring things out and have the idea of working together. And MAYBE, JUST MAYBE have issues making a guild time slot on a consistent basis, or heck are struggling to find guilds that run when they're free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebeard.1746 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 > @"Vinceman.4572" said: > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > > > > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > > > > > > > > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. > > > > > > > > Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. > > > > > > How? > > > > Because they're unwilling to actually build a community in the name of speed clears. Also the data on # of Lis vs your percentile in the community is hilarious in the context of "bring massive kp" > > Do you even play this game? Serious question because your 2 sentences make no sense at all and therefore are utter bs. It's okay, just watch the raiding pop over the next 5 years. That will tell all, I won't be wrong unless both Anet and the community change their approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > @"Vinceman.4572" said: > > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > @"Firebeard.1746" said: > > > > > > @"Ayrilana.1396" said: > > > > > > > @"Nightcore.5621" said: > > > > > > > Raids so toxic and I dont ever think People well be into something so toxic so i think the Whole strike Thing to get People to do raids well never happen > > > > > > > > > > > > There’s more toxicity coming from those against toxicity than from those being accused of being toxic. > > > > > > > > > > Lol that's rich. The hardcore pveers are going to kill this game blaming noobs all along the way. > > > > > > > > How? > > > > > > Because they're unwilling to actually build a community in the name of speed clears. Also the data on # of Lis vs your percentile in the community is hilarious in the context of "bring massive kp" > > > > Do you even play this game? Serious question because your 2 sentences make no sense at all and therefore are utter bs. > > It's okay, just watch the raiding pop over the next 5 years. That will tell all, I won't be wrong unless both Anet and the community change their approaches. And the dungeon community popped years ago and that had nothing to do with the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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