> @"Strider Pj.2193" said:
> > @"Bristingr.5034" said:
> > > @"Strider Pj.2193" said:
> > > If they aren’t ‘defeated’ they should absolutely count.
> >
> > While I agree, I wanna play a little bit of devil's advocate on this. Players on Mounts, Ele Mist Form, Chrono Shield Bubble, Thief Invis, etc. all don't contribute to point capture, but they're still alive and well.
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> Each of those apply additional benefits to players.
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> Invisibility shouldn’t count. Regardless of thief, mesmer, engie, or any other class that gets stealth from other sources. (Ranger, smoke fields, Druid drops..)
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> As an Ele main, (mostly anyway) mist form hasn’t allowed it for years. I don’t want that counting either. I think it provides enough advantages..
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> Chrono shield bubble, I can’t comment on.. I don’t know enough about it.
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> Mounts was fairly recently removed. Mostly because they can’t be cc’d and add an additional 8+K HP.
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> Arguing whether downstate is its own advantage is a separate argument than this thread IMO. But downstate itself is available to each class. (Balancing it is a different thing as well lol)
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> At least, that’s kinda how I see it. I am not saying I am right. Just that I THINK I am right. ?. ?
Eh, the mounts have no defense. It's basically 3 hits and they're off their mounts or 0.0005 seconds if you dive into a zerg.
Edit: Also, I messed up. I meant the Chrono Time-warp (F4 skill). It rewinds time to where were you at between 0.5-3 seconds ago (depending on # of clones out), cooldowns and all.