Justine.6351 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 With the amazing patch this spring they effectively removed damage from cc skills but forgot things like catapults and trebs. Is it time to balance siege damage to players when they cause cc? I got one shot the other day by a cata somehow, seems it needs fixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 The damage is already reduced against doors. I would argue you are a door if you die to a cata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 How does someone get oneshot by a cata? Maybe if you are a roamer with glass gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 It is basic to not tank aes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Do you realize how hard it is to hit players with seige designed to break walls? I nailed a few people in WvW with a Treb yesterday but i'd be lying if I said it was intentional.. catas and trebs are almost useless again moving players, chances are if your getting hit by them then you're standing on or next to the thing they're shooting at >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Teratus.2859" said: > Do you realize how hard it is to hit players with seige designed to break walls? > > I nailed a few people in WvW with a Treb yesterday but i'd be lying if I said it was intentional.. catas and trebs are almost useless again moving players, chances are if your getting hit by them then you're standing on or next to the thing they're shooting at >.< No they were targeting me while I was trying to flip a camp. 3 of them speed built a cata nearby and when the first shot hit me I was just instantly in downed state with no chance to dodge. This needs to be fixed asap before alliances are released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > How does someone get oneshot by a cata? > > Maybe if you are a roamer with glass gear. I was 3.5k armor and 30k hp. This is my special tank build I use to roam with. It's pretty unkillable except for siege one shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Justine.6351" said: > > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > How does someone get oneshot by a cata? > > > > Maybe if you are a roamer with glass gear. > > I was 3.5k armor and 30k hp. This is my special tank build I use to roam with. It's pretty unkillable except for siege one shots. Do you have siege mastery defense? Can you share your build and food? It could be that the person using has cata mastery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Justine.6351" said: > > @"DanAlcedo.3281" said: > > How does someone get oneshot by a cata? > > > > Maybe if you are a roamer with glass gear. > > I was 3.5k armor and 30k hp. This is my special tank build I use to roam with. It's pretty unkillable except for siege one shots. Seriously. How did you take 30k? IF true. Must be a bug or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 There may have been a secret deadeye. Ranger. Rifle warrior in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Justine.6351" said: > > @"Teratus.2859" said: > > Do you realize how hard it is to hit players with seige designed to break walls? > > > > I nailed a few people in WvW with a Treb yesterday but i'd be lying if I said it was intentional.. catas and trebs are almost useless again moving players, chances are if your getting hit by them then you're standing on or next to the thing they're shooting at >.< > > No they were targeting me while I was trying to flip a camp. 3 of them speed built a cata nearby and when the first shot hit me I was just instantly in downed state with no chance to dodge. This needs to be fixed asap before alliances are released. Sounds like they nailed you while you were already weakened by guards.. I play a pretty glassy Ranger in WvW and i've never been 1 shot by seige like that, don't think they have the damage to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 A player full tank can die from anything if they reach a low enough hp for damage to make that health reach 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Justine.6351" said: > > @"Teratus.2859" said: > > Do you realize how hard it is to hit players with seige designed to break walls? > > > > I nailed a few people in WvW with a Treb yesterday but i'd be lying if I said it was intentional.. catas and trebs are almost useless again moving players, chances are if your getting hit by them then you're standing on or next to the thing they're shooting at >.< > > No they were targeting me while I was trying to flip a camp. 3 of them speed built a cata nearby and when the first shot hit me I was just instantly in downed state with no chance to dodge. This needs to be fixed asap before alliances are released. Thats called being **outskilled**. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Can you share your build ? Was it a t3 camp being defended by rangers? Maybe mesmers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > @"Justine.6351" said: > > > @"Teratus.2859" said: > > > Do you realize how hard it is to hit players with seige designed to break walls? > > > > > > I nailed a few people in WvW with a Treb yesterday but i'd be lying if I said it was intentional.. catas and trebs are almost useless again moving players, chances are if your getting hit by them then you're standing on or next to the thing they're shooting at >.< > > > > No they were targeting me while I was trying to flip a camp. 3 of them speed built a cata nearby and when the first shot hit me I was just instantly in downed state with no chance to dodge. This needs to be fixed asap before alliances are released. > Thats called being **outskilled**. Actually, real pros would use a ballista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWI.4127 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I agree simply because of 3rd floor catas in SMC. Way too effective at defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish.2769 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I can't take this post serious, nothing said by OP adds up to be true enough to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"ArchonWing.9480" said: > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > > @"Justine.6351" said: > > > > @"Teratus.2859" said: > > > > Do you realize how hard it is to hit players with seige designed to break walls? > > > > > > > > I nailed a few people in WvW with a Treb yesterday but i'd be lying if I said it was intentional.. catas and trebs are almost useless again moving players, chances are if your getting hit by them then you're standing on or next to the thing they're shooting at >.< > > > > > > No they were targeting me while I was trying to flip a camp. 3 of them speed built a cata nearby and when the first shot hit me I was just instantly in downed state with no chance to dodge. This needs to be fixed asap before alliances are released. > > Thats called being **outskilled**. > > Actually, real pros would use a ballista. Nah they would use a superior treb. > @"Fish.2769" said: > I can't take this post serious, nothing said by OP adds up to be true enough to believe. ... Isnt it the complete opposite, totally believable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannelore.8153 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 A Catapult can only do that much damage if the player has the masteries, you have no siege defense and its fired from maximum range, all of which are very unlikely scenarios. (They're as likely to have the mastery as you are to have siege defense.) Even then, to hit near 30k you would need Vulnerability on you from.. somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 no you guys don't understand... its instant invisible hard hitting cc damage from 5k range. there is no counter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry.5713 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justine.6351 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Henry.5713" said: > Just dodge. cant if its instant, hits you and you just die... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry.5713 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Justine.6351" said: > > @"Henry.5713" said: > > Just dodge. > > cant if its instant, hits you and you just die... Just predict the hit and dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 deleted body is 3 characters too short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeyspit.3965 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 > @"Justine.6351" said: > > @"Henry.5713" said: > > Just dodge. > > cant if its instant, hits you and you just die... Then you must dodge FASTER...just aDaPt. > @"Justine.6351" said: > No they were targeting me while I was trying to flip a camp. 3 of them speed built a cata nearby and when the first shot hit me I was just instantly in downed state with no chance to dodge. This needs to be fixed asap before alliances are released. I must say though, to speed build a cata vs. someone flipping a camp? I award them style points if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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