Obtena.7952 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 > @"SimplyRedie.6207" said: > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > > Wait, am I really being blamed for the servers being unable to handle mass amounts of people? > > > No, sorry, I ask in map chat and everyone else is also lagging. It has NOTHING to do with my connection and the servers inability to handle the amount of people maps are capped at. > > > > > > Perhaps lower the amount of players that can be in a map at once if your servers are now worse and can't handle it. > > > > Right ... you got this all figured out ... :astonished: > > > > Nothing here is demonstrative of 'new servers' not being able to handle it. I've done Teq no problems ... is that 'new servers' can't handle it too? > Or you don't know what lag is. Plenty of those around. > The fact I am aware that these problems AREN'T just related to 'new server' problems like the OP claims shouldn't lead you to think I'm not knowledgeable about lag. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubi.4136 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 It's getting worse all the time. I'm in the desolation just trying to do a few things, and the 10 other people on the map are saying the same thing. 5-10 sec lag spikes, almost every minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW Noob.6038 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Lag bad! Noob smash lag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I just wonder how people can tell how many players are on a map, and that each and every one of them has either responded to a question, or volunteered information. I'm sure many players experience lag, and any other number of irritating happenstances, but the statement, "Everyone/All 10-15-23 on the map...." seems difficult to substantiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotDelirium.7984 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 its been HOW many years and the laser and Teq getting blasted visual STILL don't line up? Like cmon bruh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Remember when they had to fix the lag causing 1-second internal cooldown to trigger between skill uses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 > @"NorthernRedStar.3054" said: > Remember when they had to fix the lag causing 1-second internal cooldown to trigger between skill uses? Wait.. I play WvW. That’s a daily occurrence. I figured it was a feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 Please do not tell me "it's your internet". ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691694648745394268/725867506585042964/gw481.jpg "") ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691694648745394268/725867503540109322/gw482.jpg "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Others: ANet's servers are shit, the game's too laggy to play! Me, living in the middle of nowhere, with absolute shit internet that has an average of 16kb/s upload speed: You guys get lag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torakun.9638 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Lag is my daily meal. Eating them with yogurt in the morning, rice at noon, and potato at night. Those who tried to defend and saying lag doesn't exist, count yourself very lucky. And if you come into a thread that is specifically complaining abt lag, just to make a point that the OP is the one at fault, not your holy Anet that you worship, I really wish you'll be at the receiving end one day. See if you like it. What a useless post to contribute to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumikki.1725 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 If server side has lag. It will allways affect everyone in same server/zone. If some players are laging more than others in same server/zone, then there is something more than server affecting the situation. Those are facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > Please do not tell me "it's your internet". > > > ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691694648745394268/725867506585042964/gw481.jpg "") > ![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691694648745394268/725867503540109322/gw482.jpg "") > > No one it's telling you the cause is anything specific ...we ARE telling you that you can't conclude it's Anet's "new servers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostSpectre.4198 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Experiencing lag on group events, Drizzlewood Coast seems to be unaffected. And I'm in EU servers because Finland. Places with noticeable skill input lag (that I have visited and noticed lag so far): Bjora Marshes Verdant Brink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > I did teq for 5 years, zero latency lag. Now you get tons of lag anywhere on the map when doing teq. > > > > If your new servers cannot even support your games content, then your servers are not functional for your game. It's time to revert back to your old servers and not downgrading just to save costs, unless you think saving costs is worth losing players who won't play a game that's a laggy mess in any big meta event. > > > > Big open world meta events is one of the unique things of your game, and it's main selling points. Your servers cannot support such content, that's bad. > > > > Fix it. > > What makes you think that's related to 'new servers'? Do you even know how much infrastructure is between you and the server or understand how it affects your performance? Even if the problem isn't with the servers themselves, and is in fact something between the client and the server... I still think that's valid justification to at least ask Anet to consider reverting to what worked previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 > @"Westenev.5289" said: > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > > I did teq for 5 years, zero latency lag. Now you get tons of lag anywhere on the map when doing teq. > > > > > > If your new servers cannot even support your games content, then your servers are not functional for your game. It's time to revert back to your old servers and not downgrading just to save costs, unless you think saving costs is worth losing players who won't play a game that's a laggy mess in any big meta event. > > > > > > Big open world meta events is one of the unique things of your game, and it's main selling points. Your servers cannot support such content, that's bad. > > > > > > Fix it. > > > > What makes you think that's related to 'new servers'? Do you even know how much infrastructure is between you and the server or understand how it affects your performance? > > Even if the problem isn't with the servers themselves, and is in fact something between the client and the server... I still think that's valid justification to at least ask Anet to consider reverting to what worked previously. So, go back to old hardware from several years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 > @"Westenev.5289" said: > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > > I did teq for 5 years, zero latency lag. Now you get tons of lag anywhere on the map when doing teq. > > > > > > If your new servers cannot even support your games content, then your servers are not functional for your game. It's time to revert back to your old servers and not downgrading just to save costs, unless you think saving costs is worth losing players who won't play a game that's a laggy mess in any big meta event. > > > > > > Big open world meta events is one of the unique things of your game, and it's main selling points. Your servers cannot support such content, that's bad. > > > > > > Fix it. > > > > What makes you think that's related to 'new servers'? Do you even know how much infrastructure is between you and the server or understand how it affects your performance? > > Even if the problem isn't with the servers themselves, and is in fact something between the client and the server... I still think that's valid justification to at least ask Anet to consider reverting to what worked previously. Let's imagine the issue lies with one of the few Tier 1 backbones that lie between player and ArenaNet server(s). Issues with backbones come and go (Telia and Level 3 often have issues). Would reverting to the old NCSoft servers eliminate the problem? Only if the path to the old servers used a different backbone. As more and more traffic over the years uses the internet, congestion can occur. One possible solution may be a VPN that takes a different path to the server (bypassing any routes with issues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Tempest.7584 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 As far as lag at World Boss events, the single biggest clue that it is not something specifically on my end is that I have very different lag experiences when I play at reset/post-reset compared to playing the same events at late night slots. Reset/post-reset is the worst lag. Ley Line Anomaly is guaranteed skill lag. Tequatl and Karka have gotten worse in the last several months too. Triple Trouble has animation lag that varies day to day. All of these exact same events at the late night slots are virtually lag free for me. There is definitely a time-of-day component involved. This could explain why some people experience lag and others don't. It depends on what time they're playing, and in what region. The consistent lag at reset/post-reset (peak player count in my region) suggests it is a congestion issue. Whether the congestion occurs at AWS or something in between us, is hard to say. Running trace routes can offer clues. This trace from last month shows a nearly doubling in latency beginning with the first Amazon-owned node (Hop # 12) along with significant packet loss. It seems to suggest my lag experience that time originated with Amazon. ![](https://i.imgur.com/P5npiIH.png "") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Amazon owns a Tier 1 backbone, which is not the same as the Amazon Servers that ArenaNet uses for the game. The above PingPlotter graph shows trouble at a Tier 1 backbone. Both your ISP and ArenaNet can contact the backbone facilitators (which sits between the two) and ask that the issue be looked into. Though, it may just be a matter of 'congestion'/high volume due to increased internet usage at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukia.4802 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > I did teq for 5 years, zero latency lag. Now you get tons of lag anywhere on the map when doing teq. > > If your new servers cannot even support your games content, then your servers are not functional for your game. It's time to revert back to your old servers and not downgrading just to save costs, unless you think saving costs is worth losing players who won't play a game that's a laggy mess in any big meta event. > > Big open world meta events is one of the unique things of your game, and it's main selling points. Your servers cannot support such content, that's bad. > > Fix it. Yeah, now it feels like I'm playing WoW, who now also has huge issues with latency in zerg fights. Seems everyone is going for the cheap server route, ESO has major latency in zerg pvp too, luckily its not an issue in open world tho for some odd reason. I've had double the ping ever since they swapped to amazon servers from 60 to 120 but this lag is literally unplayable to get a proper rotation off, not that it rly matters anyway since most stuff comes down to spamming 1.. still doesn't feel good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtena.7952 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 > @"Westenev.5289" said: > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > @"Shiyo.3578" said: > > > I did teq for 5 years, zero latency lag. Now you get tons of lag anywhere on the map when doing teq. > > > > > > If your new servers cannot even support your games content, then your servers are not functional for your game. It's time to revert back to your old servers and not downgrading just to save costs, unless you think saving costs is worth losing players who won't play a game that's a laggy mess in any big meta event. > > > > > > Big open world meta events is one of the unique things of your game, and it's main selling points. Your servers cannot support such content, that's bad. > > > > > > Fix it. > > > > What makes you think that's related to 'new servers'? Do you even know how much infrastructure is between you and the server or understand how it affects your performance? > > Even if the problem isn't with the servers themselves, and is in fact something between the client and the server... I still think that's valid justification to at least ask Anet to consider reverting to what worked previously. No, because you are assuming that fixes what's wrong when you don't know the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deimos.7901 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 > @"Jilora.9524" said: > Your exp isn't everyone's. Did you change computers- isp -move -from eu on na server etc. If every teq was as you say why aren't 200 people complaining? They dont care about EU serwers , we have lagss all most every where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiyo.3578 Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 I transferred to EU servers. I get zero lag at Teq on EU even though I'm from NA and connecting overseas, makes a lot of sense right? Apparently on EU, POF maps lag beyond comprehension, though. Please do something about your servers, there is clearly something VERY wrong with them. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691694648745394268/726952176982818877/unknown.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrath.1754 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 This has been my experience on NA the past few months. It use to be with a lesser CPU I could lower a couple settings and avoid any performance issues. Other then the legendary Ley Line boss, which lags all the time. Teq, I attended at 5PM at reset always a full map as I join early, lags sometimes only when in p2 forward, at his feet once I leave the cluster to ends, and its occasionally. While I know from chat others in the map are having issues when and where I'm not. No other PvE map have I encountered lag. If it was just the servers, we'd all have the same experience when on the same map. Either way ANet seems not to care they'd rather add flame spouting capes and floating balls then fix difficult issues these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metzie.3012 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 > @"Jilora.9524" said: > Your exp isn't everyone's. Did you change computers- isp -move -from eu on na server etc. If every teq was as you say why aren't 200 people complaining? There are enough reports and experiences about it, not only in the forum. Also, many are not interested in reporting this or that in the forum or elsewhere (for whatever reason). They want to _**spend their time playing the game**_ without increasing or annoying lags caused by the (growing) spaghetti code or the servers. Where you used to have a fluid game in the environment of "meta-events", today lags are no exception (anymore). I, for example, am also getting more and more tired, ... to motivate myself for the game, be it in the game itself, the forum or something like that. Related to the communication of circumstances that affect the play(ing) experience. If it annoys me, I just stop playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilora.9524 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 > @"Metzie.3012" said: > > @"Jilora.9524" said: > > Your exp isn't everyone's. Did you change computers- isp -move -from eu on na server etc. If every teq was as you say why aren't 200 people complaining? > > There are enough reports and experiences about it, not only in the forum. > > Also, many are not interested in reporting this or that in the forum or elsewhere (for whatever reason). They want to _**spend their time playing the game**_ without increasing or annoying lags caused by the (growing) spaghetti code or the servers. Where you used to have a fluid game in the environment of "meta-events", today lags are no exception (anymore). > > I, for example, am also getting more and more tired, ... to motivate myself for the game, be it in the game itself, the forum or something like that. Related to the communication of circumstances that affect the play(ing) experience. If it annoys me, I just stop playing. Like I tried to ask for more info. I don't lag at all anywhere. East coast Na server verizon internet old ass computer. We already got some extra info like his teq lagged on NA but not on EU and PoF is a problem for EU and WvW is a problem for alot. Burt yeah people keep responding to my month old comment with the same nothing info except I lag Anet fix. It has to be something else if besides anet fix servers if everyone has such different experience but I really don't care anymore since y'all just want to be like I'm the asshole cause I don't get lag. Gl figuring it out because I'm on the same servers as everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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