Mil.3562 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Your sales of Warclaw Skins will increase by many folds when Pvers starts to like it. And, when they go into WvW to unlock it, some may like the WvW gameplay and play it more often and that helps to increase the population there and many will start to jump servers and that also helps to increase gem sales and.. and... Just do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danikat.8537 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I didn't think they'd changed it in PvE, only in WvW. It was always a very basic mount in PvE. What did it used to do which it doesn't do now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I'm quite sure it has always been subpar in PvE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannelore.8153 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"Danikat.8537" said: > I didn't think they'd changed it in PvE, only in WvW. It was always a very basic mount in PvE. What did it used to do which it doesn't do now? One nerf that did carry over: The bleeding was removed from Battle Maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"Hannelore.8153" said: > > @"Danikat.8537" said: > > I didn't think they'd changed it in PvE, only in WvW. It was always a very basic mount in PvE. What did it used to do which it doesn't do now? > > One nerf that did carry over: The bleeding was removed from Battle Maul. Dident they heavily nerf the base damage on it aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 [https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/111852/the-warclaw-needs-some-love-in-pve-merged](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/111852/the-warclaw-needs-some-love-in-pve-merged) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blp.3489 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Although I only read two pages of the linked thread my thought is that it would be great if they brought the area of effect speed boost to PVE so that someone with the warclaw could help people without mounts move at a common faster speed, making it easier to play with others. For the short period of time I hadn't got the warclaw yet in wvw I thought that was one of the best features ever, now I just wish there were more players without warclaws in wvw that I could share speed with. :) I disagree with people that say the post-nerf warclass has no utility in wvw, I find that the most important feature the warclaw provides is a common movement speed so that a group of players who have different base move speeds can travel together without the faster players having to continually pause or loop back. This makes playing with others easier and therefore more attractive, imho. When I started wvw the warclaw was already in use so I don't know if there was some other way to deal with this issue prior to warclaws. So, that would provide a unique ability for the warclaw in PVE that wouldn't infringe on the capabilities of the other mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"blp.3489" said: > Although I only read two pages of the linked thread my thought is that it would be great if they brought the area of effect speed boost to PVE so that someone with the warclaw could help people without mounts move at a common faster speed, making it easier to play with others. For the short period of time I hadn't got the warclaw yet in wvw I thought that was one of the best features ever, now I just wish there were more players without warclaws in wvw that I could share speed with. :) This would dis-incentivize people in PvE from purchasing mounts. Not sure that would be in Anet's best interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blp.3489 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"blp.3489" said: > > Although I only read two pages of the linked thread my thought is that it would be great if they brought the area of effect speed boost to PVE so that someone with the warclaw could help people without mounts move at a common faster speed, making it easier to play with others. For the short period of time I hadn't got the warclaw yet in wvw I thought that was one of the best features ever, now I just wish there were more players without warclaws in wvw that I could share speed with. :) > This would dis-incentivize people in PvE from purchasing mounts. Not sure that would be in Anet's best interests. I think the number of people who would say "I don't need/want a mount because I can sometimes hitch a ride with someone on a warclaw" is vanishingly small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"blp.3489" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > @"blp.3489" said: > > > Although I only read two pages of the linked thread my thought is that it would be great if they brought the area of effect speed boost to PVE so that someone with the warclaw could help people without mounts move at a common faster speed, making it easier to play with others. For the short period of time I hadn't got the warclaw yet in wvw I thought that was one of the best features ever, now I just wish there were more players without warclaws in wvw that I could share speed with. :) > > This would dis-incentivize people in PvE from purchasing mounts. Not sure that would be in Anet's best interests. > > I think the number of people who would say "I don't need/want a mount because I can sometimes hitch a ride with someone on a warclaw" is vanishingly small. You might be right. I might be right. Neither of us has any stats to prove one way or the other. I was basing my premise on the many threads here on the forum of players complaining how others with mounts shoot across the maps and finish events before non-mount players even arrive. If players are able to "hitch" with someone and get to these events, why then would they spend anything to get their own mounts? /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"Astralporing.1957" said: > I'm quite sure it has always been subpar in PvE It's not subpar if you play a power build and like big numbers on engage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucianDK.8615 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Warclaw is not a pve mount, it needs no changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blp.3489 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"blp.3489" said: > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > > @"blp.3489" said: > > > > Although I only read two pages of the linked thread my thought is that it would be great if they brought the area of effect speed boost to PVE so that someone with the warclaw could help people without mounts move at a common faster speed, making it easier to play with others. For the short period of time I hadn't got the warclaw yet in wvw I thought that was one of the best features ever, now I just wish there were more players without warclaws in wvw that I could share speed with. :) > > > This would dis-incentivize people in PvE from purchasing mounts. Not sure that would be in Anet's best interests. > > > > I think the number of people who would say "I don't need/want a mount because I can sometimes hitch a ride with someone on a warclaw" is vanishingly small. > > You might be right. I might be right. Neither of us has any stats to prove one way or the other. I was basing my premise on the many threads here on the forum of players complaining how others with mounts shoot across the maps and finish events before non-mount players even arrive. If players are able to "hitch" with someone and get to these events, why then would they spend anything to get their own mounts? /shrug You are quite optimistic if you think that there will be enough players riding warclaws to events to make hitching a ride even a little bit reliable. But you are right, neither of us can say for sure. I would be pleased if they tested it out. If it turns out that there are *a lot* of players that want to give others a ride to events it wouldn't be a wholly bad thing to indulge them. It depends on the event of course but many of the meta events require a mount with some vertical ability to keep up, so warclaws wouldn't be a complete solution in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kichwas.7152 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"blp.3489" said: > > Although I only read two pages of the linked thread my thought is that it would be great if they brought the area of effect speed boost to PVE so that someone with the warclaw could help people without mounts move at a common faster speed, making it easier to play with others. For the short period of time I hadn't got the warclaw yet in wvw I thought that was one of the best features ever, now I just wish there were more players without warclaws in wvw that I could share speed with. :) > This would dis-incentivize people in PvE from purchasing mounts. Not sure that would be in Anet's best interests. > You can't purchase mounts anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"Kichwas.7152" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > @"blp.3489" said: > > > Although I only read two pages of the linked thread my thought is that it would be great if they brought the area of effect speed boost to PVE so that someone with the warclaw could help people without mounts move at a common faster speed, making it easier to play with others. For the short period of time I hadn't got the warclaw yet in wvw I thought that was one of the best features ever, now I just wish there were more players without warclaws in wvw that I could share speed with. :) > > This would dis-incentivize people in PvE from purchasing mounts. Not sure that would be in Anet's best interests. > > > > You can't purchase mounts anyway. > While technically correct, both the griffin and sky scale come with a significant gold component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 > @"Kichwas.7152" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > @"blp.3489" said: > > > Although I only read two pages of the linked thread my thought is that it would be great if they brought the area of effect speed boost to PVE so that someone with the warclaw could help people without mounts move at a common faster speed, making it easier to play with others. For the short period of time I hadn't got the warclaw yet in wvw I thought that was one of the best features ever, now I just wish there were more players without warclaws in wvw that I could share speed with. :) > > This would dis-incentivize people in PvE from purchasing mounts. Not sure that would be in Anet's best interests. > > > > You can't purchase mounts anyway. > Ok, purchase EXPANSIONS so that they have access to mounts. I thought that was inferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I'd rather have Arenanet revert it's WvW nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obfuscate.6430 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Often tactics like this are to bait players who prefer one game mode in to trying a game mode they might not want to. The real remedy for you OP would be to help people new to the game mode be more useful . The outcome would be that they would earn their mount faster and they'll either leave Wvw sooner OR, best case scenario you've created another wvw fan who will stay and help your server. It's a win/win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Don't you think WvW players want the buff too? A mount acquired through wvw, meant for wvw is somehow perform better on other mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mil.3562 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 This topic [here](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/118443/which-mount-do-you-like-the-best#latest) further proved that the Warclaw needs more love in PVE. ANet can you not see how much sales on the kitty mount skins you are losing? Boost her speed or double her HP or make her auto hop over uneven grounds and low hedges, just give her something. Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mil.3562 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 > @"Ultramex.1506" said: > Don't you think WvW players want the buff too? A mount acquired through wvw, meant for wvw is somehow perform better on other mode The reason why she is being nerfed so badly in WvW is because of a handful of WvW players who always call for the removal of the Warclaw since day one. They cannot adapt to accept the mount's abilities to instant kill them when they are downed and also the Warclaws help support players to run away from gankers easily. These handful of people happen to be forum regulars as well, so they come here to complain every day and till today they are still not happy. PVE only affects PVE mobs. And Champions, Elites, Veterans and trash Mobs, they don't have forum accounts so they can't come here to complain about their L2P issues and their inabilities to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralporing.1957 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 > @"Mil.3562" said: > This topic [here](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/118443/which-mount-do-you-like-the-best#latest) further proved that the Warclaw needs more love in PVE. I don't see any proof to that end in that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesione.9412 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Can I get a warclaw that doesn't get temporarily thwarted by the top step of a staircase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobx.1758 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 > @"Mil.3562" said: > This topic [here](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/118443/which-mount-do-you-like-the-best#latest) further proved that the Warclaw needs more love in PVE. ANet can you not see how much sales on the kitty mount skins you are losing? Boost her speed or double her HP or make her auto hop over uneven grounds and low hedges, just give her something. Please? Warclaw already has its niche where its the best and it's simply whole wvw gamemode. So nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just be glad you don't have the 5 second cd to remount... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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