mes.4607 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Remove trapper rune though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes.4607 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. Cele amulet should have never came back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"mes.4607" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > Cele amulet should have never came back And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes.4607 Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. The amulet did too much by design unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"mes.4607" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Lol this balance team is so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Thanks for patching, devs. I wish we had some heads up about some of these changes but yknow~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"mes.4607" said: > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoopop.5630 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 cool they nerf rev and holo. I'll be back full time again on reaper or core necro. Can't wait to play this game :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"felix.2386" said: > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. you realize what you saying make no sense right? you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, and yes you are skill less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 sorry.. while some steps in this patch are good.. like nerfing heal wariror .. the nerf is too big.. and buff to might makes right is nice.. but sorry that wont bring duliest warrior back into the game.. because warrior still dont have reasonable way to deal dmaage! rev got entirely destroyed .. no one ever gonna play rev in ranked pvp.. also deleteing the celestial amu is ohh we dont know how to do balance lets Umm.. delete? where is the nerf to thief and especially daredevil that abuse pvp? who is gonna stop daredevil now? there is even less ways to counter it.. becuase warrior cant heal as much anymore.. and rev cant sustain the thief burst ! these changes while some of them are good needed to come along other changes! truth is.. this patch doesnt change the meta... it only make the meta more strict .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"felix.2386" said: > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. > > you realize what you saying make no sense right? > > you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. > > also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. > > and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, > > and yes you are skill less. Paladin is a bad stat combo, end of story. If you're complaining Cele was better because you're a hybrid build, then congrats it's doing its job. Does Cele do more damge if you aren't a hybrid build? No because you've got wasted stats, obviously. So you can try to cherry pick situations where Cele is better and act like there was no alternative or downsides to it, but it just makes you look stupid. Anet's been taking out tanky amulets for a while now because of whining people like you, so if you're upset Paladin, the supposed Tanky amulet, is so weak, be upset at yourself and Anet for removing every other option. Eventually we'll be down to nothing but Berserker stats because Marauders is too tanky and does too much damage. /s but not really /s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > > > > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. > > > > you realize what you saying make no sense right? > > > > you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. > > > > also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. > > > > and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, > > > > and yes you are skill less. > > Paladin is a bad stat combo, end of story. If you're complaining Cele was better because you're a hybrid build, then congrats it's doing its job. Does Cele do more damge if you aren't a hybrid build? No because you've got wasted stats, obviously. So you can try to cherry pick situations where Cele is better and act like there was no alternative or downsides to it, but it just makes you look stupid. Anet's been taking out tanky amulets for a while now because of whining people like you, so if you're upset Paladin, the supposed Tanky amulet, is so weak, be upset at yourself and Anet for removing every other option. Eventually we'll be down to nothing but Berserker stats because Marauders is too tanky and does too much damage. /s but not really /s. Doing it's job of what? being toxic and busted? so you are saying being toxic and busted is doing it's job so it shouldnt be removed? you are making no sense there are plenty of hybrid stats that's not busted like sage. pvp is about balance, not power creep, get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > > > > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. > > > > you realize what you saying make no sense right? > > > > you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. > > > > also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. > > > > and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, > > > > and yes you are skill less. > > Paladin is a bad stat combo, end of story. If you're complaining Cele was better because you're a hybrid build, then congrats it's doing its job. Does Cele do more damge if you aren't a hybrid build? No because you've got wasted stats, obviously. So you can try to cherry pick situations where Cele is better and act like there was no alternative or downsides to it, but it just makes you look stupid. Anet's been taking out tanky amulets for a while now because of whining people like you, so if you're upset Paladin, the supposed Tanky amulet, is so weak, be upset at yourself and Anet for removing every other option. Eventually we'll be down to nothing but Berserker stats because Marauders is too tanky and does too much damage. /s but not really 100% the nerf to paladin was retarded.. it should;ve kept the 3k total start .. and deleting celestial is another dumb shit .. ... also they just ruined the meta even more.. so now it gonna be just tanky core necro guardians.. and daredevil metal.. nice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > > > > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > > > > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > > > > > > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. > > > > > > you realize what you saying make no sense right? > > > > > > you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. > > > > > > also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. > > > > > > and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, > > > > > > and yes you are skill less. > > > > Paladin is a bad stat combo, end of story. If you're complaining Cele was better because you're a hybrid build, then congrats it's doing its job. Does Cele do more damge if you aren't a hybrid build? No because you've got wasted stats, obviously. So you can try to cherry pick situations where Cele is better and act like there was no alternative or downsides to it, but it just makes you look stupid. Anet's been taking out tanky amulets for a while now because of whining people like you, so if you're upset Paladin, the supposed Tanky amulet, is so weak, be upset at yourself and Anet for removing every other option. Eventually we'll be down to nothing but Berserker stats because Marauders is too tanky and does too much damage. /s but not really > > > 100% the nerf to paladin was kitten.. it should;ve kept the 3k total start .. > and deleting celestial is another dumb kitten .. ... also they just ruined the meta even more.. so now it gonna be just tanky core necro guardians.. and daredevil metal.. nice.. Funny how you said nerf to paladin was shit then complain about tanky builds. paladin before nerf was literally ran by the most boring tanky build called decap engi that can't be killed and all it does was push you off point. you people are really clueless and have no idea what you talking about don't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"felix.2386" said: > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > > > > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > > > > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > > > > > > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. > > > > > > you realize what you saying make no sense right? > > > > > > you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. > > > > > > also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. > > > > > > and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, > > > > > > and yes you are skill less. > > > > Paladin is a bad stat combo, end of story. If you're complaining Cele was better because you're a hybrid build, then congrats it's doing its job. Does Cele do more damge if you aren't a hybrid build? No because you've got wasted stats, obviously. So you can try to cherry pick situations where Cele is better and act like there was no alternative or downsides to it, but it just makes you look stupid. Anet's been taking out tanky amulets for a while now because of whining people like you, so if you're upset Paladin, the supposed Tanky amulet, is so weak, be upset at yourself and Anet for removing every other option. Eventually we'll be down to nothing but Berserker stats because Marauders is too tanky and does too much damage. /s but not really /s. > > Doing it's job of what? being toxic and busted? > so you are saying being toxic and busted is doing it's job so it shouldnt be removed? you are making no sense > there are plenty of hybrid stats that's not busted like sage. > pvp is about balance, not power creep, get out. You'd have to be pretty stupid to think Cele was toxic, and all that really means is you don't know how to deal with builds running it. And if you think Cele was power creep then LOL We're in the opposite of power creep right now where everything is being nerfed into oblivion. Just stop, you're just making yourself look dumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiwk.2760 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"felix.2386" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > > > > > > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > > > > > > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > > > > > > > > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. > > > > > > > > you realize what you saying make no sense right? > > > > > > > > you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. > > > > > > > > also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. > > > > > > > > and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, > > > > > > > > and yes you are skill less. > > > > > > Paladin is a bad stat combo, end of story. If you're complaining Cele was better because you're a hybrid build, then congrats it's doing its job. Does Cele do more damge if you aren't a hybrid build? No because you've got wasted stats, obviously. So you can try to cherry pick situations where Cele is better and act like there was no alternative or downsides to it, but it just makes you look stupid. Anet's been taking out tanky amulets for a while now because of whining people like you, so if you're upset Paladin, the supposed Tanky amulet, is so weak, be upset at yourself and Anet for removing every other option. Eventually we'll be down to nothing but Berserker stats because Marauders is too tanky and does too much damage. /s but not really > > > > > > 100% the nerf to paladin was kitten.. it should;ve kept the 3k total start .. > > and deleting celestial is another dumb kitten .. ... also they just ruined the meta even more.. so now it gonna be just tanky core necro guardians.. and daredevil metal.. nice.. > > Funny how you said nerf to paladin was kitten then complain about tanky builds. > you people are really clueless and have no idea what you talking about don't you. the amu isnt the solution .. tanky core necro is tanky not just because of the amu.. sure its amu got 900 vit but its not why its op.. give reaper 900 vit will it be tanky ? no.. and i didnt complain about core neco.. i said it will be part of the strict meta... i only have 1 complain and its stealth and daredevil the rest is fine as it is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felix.2386 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. > > > > > > > > > > you realize what you saying make no sense right? > > > > > > > > > > you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. > > > > > > > > > > also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. > > > > > > > > > > and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, > > > > > > > > > > and yes you are skill less. > > > > > > > > Paladin is a bad stat combo, end of story. If you're complaining Cele was better because you're a hybrid build, then congrats it's doing its job. Does Cele do more damge if you aren't a hybrid build? No because you've got wasted stats, obviously. So you can try to cherry pick situations where Cele is better and act like there was no alternative or downsides to it, but it just makes you look stupid. Anet's been taking out tanky amulets for a while now because of whining people like you, so if you're upset Paladin, the supposed Tanky amulet, is so weak, be upset at yourself and Anet for removing every other option. Eventually we'll be down to nothing but Berserker stats because Marauders is too tanky and does too much damage. /s but not really > > > > > > > > > 100% the nerf to paladin was kitten.. it should;ve kept the 3k total start .. > > > and deleting celestial is another dumb kitten .. ... also they just ruined the meta even more.. so now it gonna be just tanky core necro guardians.. and daredevil metal.. nice.. > > > > Funny how you said nerf to paladin was kitten then complain about tanky builds. > > you people are really clueless and have no idea what you talking about don't you. > > the amu isnt the solution .. tanky core necro is tanky not just because of the amu.. sure its amu got 900 vit but its not why its op.. give reaper 900 vit will it be tanky ? no.. > and i didnt complain about core neco.. i said it will be part of the strict meta... i only have 1 complain and its stealth and daredevil the rest is fine as it is.. of course amulet isnt the solution, when most build using this amulet isn't toxic. with celestial, i'll teach you kids, has been toxic and busted whenever it become usable, it's either completely unplayed or if it's played it's toxic and busted. that only explain how flawed the design is. also the stat combination enables toxic braindead build with no skill. just like how toughness/vitality/condition damage will never make it to pvp, because it is toxic and stupid. 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UNOwen.7132 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Yeah, "great" patch. Just straight up kills core engineer because of Holo, instead of, yknow, hitting Holo? Man the balance just got so much worse after the february patch. At this point Id just revert every single change since and including that patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 > @"felix.2386" said: > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > @"noiwk.2760" said: > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > > > @"felix.2386" said: > > > > > > > > > @"CutesySylveon.8290" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh please, it had a lower stat value and still did too much? That's a sign we've got crappy options if Cele is too strong. What used it besides Renegade? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"mes.4607" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Lilyanna.9361" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > They removed ANOTHER amulet. This pvp is falling further into the dumpster. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cele amulet should have never came back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is why the game is like this and several more people left. Nice job bud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The amulet did too much by design unfortunately > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? Did you not read the stats on that thing. It overall had LOWER stat values then ALL of the amulets currently within the game. Are you PURPOSEFULLY choosing to ignore that fact. When you picked celestial your RUNE mattered more because of how low the value was. Are you serious rn?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's you guys who don't read the stats, celestial had higher vitality and toughness then paladin and did more damage then paladin with the combination of power/condition damage/precision/ferocity on top of having healing power > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i like how only noob with no idea complains about removal of these amulets. you are really just getting carried by builds really.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two minor stats have a lower total than Cele, big whoop. It's 60 points, and Paladin is a trash amulet to begin with. I don't use Cele builds but I'm also not so bad I thought they were busted. If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant, but idiots that like taking amulets away don't realize this. > > > > > > > > > > > > you realize what you saying make no sense right? > > > > > > > > > > > > you realize there's barely any stats with toughness, and paladin was supposed to be the tanky double defense stats, yet celestial not only has more defense stats, also does more damage if you build for hybrid. that's what we call busted. > > > > > > > > > > > > also celestial even nerfed, will only serve noobs to play cancer braindead build which will build toxicity to the game. > > > > > > > > > > > > and " If we had better stat options then Cele would be even less relevant" what does it even mean, are you asking for more busted stat, are you saying you don't care about balance, because this is what it sounds like, > > > > > > > > > > > > and yes you are skill less. > > > > > > > > > > Paladin is a bad stat combo, end of story. If you're complaining Cele was better because you're a hybrid build, then congrats it's doing its job. Does Cele do more damge if you aren't a hybrid build? No because you've got wasted stats, obviously. So you can try to cherry pick situations where Cele is better and act like there was no alternative or downsides to it, but it just makes you look stupid. Anet's been taking out tanky amulets for a while now because of whining people like you, so if you're upset Paladin, the supposed Tanky amulet, is so weak, be upset at yourself and Anet for removing every other option. Eventually we'll be down to nothing but Berserker stats because Marauders is too tanky and does too much damage. /s but not really > > > > > > > > > > > > 100% the nerf to paladin was kitten.. it should;ve kept the 3k total start .. > > > > and deleting celestial is another dumb kitten .. ... also they just ruined the meta even more.. so now it gonna be just tanky core necro guardians.. and daredevil metal.. nice.. > > > > > > Funny how you said nerf to paladin was kitten then complain about tanky builds. > > > you people are really clueless and have no idea what you talking about don't you. > > > > the amu isnt the solution .. tanky core necro is tanky not just because of the amu.. sure its amu got 900 vit but its not why its op.. give reaper 900 vit will it be tanky ? no.. > > and i didnt complain about core neco.. i said it will be part of the strict meta... i only have 1 complain and its stealth and daredevil the rest is fine as it is.. > > of course amulet isnt the solution, when most build using this amulet isn't toxic. > with celestial, i'll teach you kids, has been toxic and busted whenever it become usable, it's either completely unplayed or if it's played it's toxic and busted. > that only explain how flawed the design is. > > also the stat combination enables toxic braindead build with no skill. > just like how toughness/vitality/condition damage will never make it to pvp, because it is toxic and stupid. You keep crying about toxic toxic toxic. What does that even mean? How is a stat combination toxic? It's not, it's just you whining about it because you couldn't handle or work around builds running it. I also missed calling out the stupidity of you saying Sage is Hybrid damage. Dude, just because it has power stats, which is literally EVERY AMULET BESIDES RABID, that doesn't make it Hybrid. You've got no ferocity, how tf do you plan to do any physical damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Wow....looked at patch notes and they are just soooooo awesome and in touch with what the community needs! Yes! Let's remove more options from pvp by reducing the number of amulets! Who cares about build diversity? Not me! Let's nerf boon support and damage in WvW even further! Who doesn't enjoy hitting like a wet noodle? Certainly not me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Remove all damage on cc's regardless of the difference in class designs, gut defense line by deleting 2 meta traits and gut warrior sustain on duel builds. Devs say we'll look at and adjust damage on cc over time depending on impact it has-warrior duel or melee heavy builds go from top tier to low tier. Yr later no damage on cc returned, insignificant amount of healing added to mmr and no adjustments to the 300 sec traits. Only good thing regarding warrior was nerfing heal build. These sure are professional level balance passes for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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