MrFisticuffs.7306 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Buy a NEW PC now or wait until 3rd expansion comes out? I currently have a i5 CPU and my GPU is 1050ti. My son has a i7 CPU and a 1660ti GPU....I can tell a little bit of a difference. Any Suggestions for what CPU or GPU would help with FPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungo Zen.9364 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 If you are buying something from the current generation of CPU and GPU you should be fine GW2 doesn’t require the best of the best hardware by any means. Your 1050ti is equivalent to the GFX card I am using and getting 60fps on at 1080p. What I would consider is are there other games or applications you run that might be harder on the system. As well, do you want to run above 1080p or dual monitor etc that might warrant getting a beefier GFX card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 The requirements for the game aren't going to rise just because an expansion is going to drop sometime this year, so you shouldn't consider delaying to by a new PC for that expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jishi.7568 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 wait it out until next expansion release. Hopefully by then the prices come down again. EX: rx6800 msrp of $580 is currently selling for $900+, rtx3060 msrp of think it was $320 is selling for about $1k. Power supplies are in high demand as well and have about almost doubled in price as well. by the time the next expansion happens, demand should catch up and scalpers should have run out of clients and Bitcoin should have calmed down as well. If you wait a until then your upgrade should be at a very more reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 With the current high demand on the gaming PC market it could be advisable to wait, but on the other side there is no expectation that demand will lower anytime soon. Both nVidia and AMD designed some very neat gaming graphics cards but they are very hard to find at decent prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astyrah.4015 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 > @"MrFisticuffs.7306" said: > Buy a NEW PC > @"MrFisticuffs.7306" said: > Any Suggestions for what CPU or GPU would help with FPS? if new pc and on a budget for CPU, you can probably go with a ryzen 5 3600x or an i5-9600k for good 1080p performance with gw2 when paired with a good GPU if you're willing to spend some money, a ryzen 5 5600x is really good especially with the single core performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I would not buy a new PC if all you need is a CPU and motherboard. If everything needs to be changed (unlikely unless you are above 1080p for the 1050ti and above 1440p for 1660ti) then maybe it's worth it since RTX GPUs are being gouged right now , partially due to a resurgence in GPU mining. i5/i7 is meaningless as we're up to 10 generations of them. If it's 7th generation or older it's probably wise to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatz.8437 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 > @"MrFisticuffs.7306" said: > Buy a NEW PC now or wait until 3rd expansion comes out? I currently have a i5 CPU and my GPU is 1050ti. My son has a i7 CPU and a 1660ti GPU....I can tell a little bit of a difference. Any Suggestions for what CPU or GPU would help with FPS? First of all: never buy a new computer just because there is marketing about new game or expansion as it is impossible to know with what hardware you can afford and that hardware include if you also upgrade your display with a higher resolution then you play on right now. We don't know anything about how demanding EoD will be or it will make use of any new GPU features or run on more threads as for CPU, then before or anything about how this expansion will work for memory usage including storage space. Due to covid there have been a very high demand on computer for the cross over between home office and gaming computer (as some countries have tax reduction or other economical stimulation/compensation that increase the demand for computer and hardware like keyboards, displays, web cams etc). Add to that mining crypto-coins and the increase of hardware to get a part of that market before it drops, and it should at some stage drop down again to a more normal level as the base idea is to have a limit on the amount units produced. Second hand GPU market are also all over the place, meaning even "old" GPU have increased in price as a result from these two events. If your computer aren't broke and need fixing or a repair (replacement parts), then wait until we at least know when EoD will be released and what it will have for demands on hardware. You will pay too much for hardware that had a set value already when they where introduced and when market will calm down you will not be able to get your moneys worth back from selling it or upgrading, if you aren't careful and know what you are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joote.4081 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Flipping heck you could run GW2 on a calculator. A powerful computer isn't going to make those 70's textures look any better. GW2 actually looked better on my old computer with a 20" monitor than it does on my updated machine with a 3440x1440 widescreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacificterror.7805 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 > @"Joote.4081" said: > Flipping heck you could run GW2 on a calculator. I was thinking something similar (OK not that far)....GW2 is pretty low spec and I don't see the next expansion as something that will make those requirements jump dramatically. You could say that Path of Fire came out in 2017, which is 4 years ago, but even then the specs required for that expansion aren't what I'd consider a leap from base game and HoT (which share the same minimum reqs). The only benefits I see in waiting are being able to watch prices (although they may not work in your favour, with how GPU demand has been) and waiting for new monitors to drop/those releases hopefully affecting prices of monitors currently on the market. The main thing for me would basically be the monitor thing, if I decided to hold off for any reason.....there have been quite a few developments in that area in the last ~6-8mo and the ripple effect is yet to be really felt - especially because a lot of touted releases have not fully dropped yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ok I Did It.2854 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 > @"Fueki.4753" said: > The requirements for the game are going to rise just because an expansion is going to drop sometime this year, so you shouldn't consider delaying to by a new PC for that expansion. Why are they releasing a new game engine with the expansion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qiko.2461 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I'm in the same boat but running x58 platform. Gonna wait until Alder Lake comes out instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 > @"Ok I Did It.2854" said: > > @"Fueki.4753" said: > > The requirements for the game are going to rise just because an expansion is going to drop sometime this year, so you shouldn't consider delaying to by a new PC for that expansion. > > Why are they releasing a new game engine with the expansion? Without you, I wouldn't have noticed that I forgot to negate the first part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonBlue.3657 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Right now I think we're going through a global GPU shortage, so I'm not sure if that's also an issue for prebuilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFisticuffs.7306 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RVMX6JW/?coliid=I2ZTNMDM1ZH6VF&colid=1O3XZ6GIW64LN&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it thoughts on this PC?"Processor: Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core 3. 2GHz (4. 1 GHz Max Boost)" that probably needs to be much higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 > @"MrFisticuffs.7306" said: > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RVMX6JW/?coliid=I2ZTNMDM1ZH6VF&colid=1O3XZ6GIW64LN&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it > > thoughts on this PC?"Processor: Ryzen 7 2700 8-Core 3. 2GHz (4. 1 GHz Max Boost)" that probably needs to be much higher? Definitely not worth the $2500 they are asking. It's probably worth $900 or so once you add the B450 motherboard, 16GB RAM , NvME SSD , bargain bin case, and questionable power supply whose only main feature is RGB. The parts pictured in the product photo: OEM CPU heatsink (comes with CPU) Ryzen 7 2700 (listed in spec) Asrock B450 motherboard (Pro4 model likely) Team Group memory 3000MHz 16GB (2x8GB) MSI RTX 2060 --- seems to be base twin fan model or Ventus Gamdias Astrape M1 PSU 750B Ryzen 7 2700 has the multicore performance of a Ryzen 5 3600 roughly, while having lower single threaded performance to the tune of 20% or so. The RTX 2060 is also dated and was retailing for $300 before GPU gouging started. The RTX 3060 successor with double the VRAM and higher performance is supposed to retail at $329. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFisticuffs.7306 Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 The PC was $1,150 before more of them sold as of yesterday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jishi.7568 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 > @"MrFisticuffs.7306" said: > The PC was $1,150 before more of them sold as of yesterday morning Well, you can use this as a reference to help choose the right GPU https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html and the CPU one (kinda bummed they don't mention prices though) https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html you got it about right on the parts selection. something like this even. I say anything from rx580-vega64/rx5700xt(1060 6gb - 2070/1080ti/2060S) is about as max as you can go on performance... gpu wise Here's a bestbuy one,lol. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-aegis-zs-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-3700x-16gb-memory-rx-5600xt-512gb-ssd-black/6431203.p?skuId=6431203 heck any 5600x with same GPU or better with same price should beat this. Heck this should be golden too at 1080p https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd/6430867.p?skuId=6430867 little comparison i did but, hard to see the fps and well it's at 5k resolution using the ^^^ as reference 16gb all you really need for this game. 3700x is about the 3970x performance for games... well maybe a little off since Threadripper supports quad channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 > @"jishi.7568" said: > wait it out until next expansion release. Hopefully by then the prices come down again. It really depends on the continent and country, so you can't make a general statement like that. When I had to buy a new system last summer, hardware was about twice as expensive here as in the U.S. at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jishi.7568 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 > @"Ashantara.8731" said: > > @"jishi.7568" said: > > wait it out until next expansion release. Hopefully by then the prices come down again. > > It really depends on the continent and country, so you can't make a general statement like that. When I had to buy a new system last summer, hardware was about twice as expensive here as in the U.S. at the same time. That's very true, i often forget the region prices differences. Cheap alternatives:, instead of a new pc completely, a simple upgrade like this can help: AMD :(honestly the 5600x the better buy but hard to get and you need to update the bios on motherboard to use... but, you need a older cpu to do that) https://ibb.co/r2PZdrV Intel : https://ibb.co/p2VGqt0 You can then use the DX12 mod and get consistent FPS, especially if edit the Config file. a review for the cpu's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 ^ I second jishi's opinion on Ryzen 5 5600X (if you can get it from Microcenter or other retailer for near MSRP) or Ryzen 5 3600 series over an Intel 10th gen CPU. I would not buy an Intel CPU if you can help it: they don't have any PCIE 4.0 support , require pricier motherboards to tweak RAM, and consume more energy generally due to the older 14nm node so any minimal cost savings is going to be negated after a year or two unless your power is dirt cheap. Here's what [Anandtech](https://www.anandtech.com/show/15787/amd-ryzen-5-3600-review-amazons-best-selling-cpu) had to say: > Every so often there comes a processor that captures the market. It ends up being that right combination of price, cores, frequency, performance, features and compatibility when added to the right sort of motherboard that makes it fly off the shelves. The main CPU this cycle seems to be the Ryzen 5 3600, offering six high-performance Zen 2 cores and 24 lanes of PCIe 4.0 for only $199. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Just a side note: If you want to buy a PC now, make sure it is in stock. There currently are massive shortage on some PC parts, mostly the latest graphics chips. Otherwise you may find yourself waiting for weeks or months before things get in stock again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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