Arden.7480 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 He is not even a veteran, that's funny and weird. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rognik.2579 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I don't remember when we actually met him, but he was definitely tied up at that time. It's possible that if we meet him again, he'll be promoted to Legendary status... or higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Joko is his own tier. In ascending order the tiers are; Ambient (white) Normal Veteran Elite Champion Legendary/World Boss Chuck Norris Palawa Joko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffball.8307 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Wait what? Did you expect him to be labeled "Veteran Palawa Joko"? I think he's the only Palawa Joko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rognik.2579 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 > @Fluffball.8307 said: > Wait what? Did you expect him to be labeled "Veteran Palawa Joko"? I think he's the only Palawa Joko. But the members of Destiny's Edge are marked with the legendary border even if they don't have "Legendary" in their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 We cant give him a status because it would mean he can be labelled, and has a fixed pisition. His status, if you will, is god+n.inf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arden.7480 Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 > @Fluffball.8307 said: > Wait what? Did you expect him to be labeled "Veteran Palawa Joko"? I think he's the only Palawa Joko. I expected him to be legendary or at least champion. In the Underworld when we met him he was just a normal NPC that is just powerless. Palawa Joko is one big myth. I hope we will kill him faster than we killed Lazarus. So annoying and pointless character and his rank just shows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolan.5816 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 > @Fluffball.8307 said: > Wait what? Did you expect him to be labeled "Veteran Palawa Joko"? I think he's the only Palawa Joko. I am gonna use a quote of Mr. Goldfinger from the James bond movie Goldfinger here: "Do you expect me to talk?" "No, Mr. Joko. I expect you to die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I think a character's rank depends on their relevant strength against the commander at that time. He wasn't a threat, and so he was simply an ambiant curiousity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 > @Rognik.2579 said: > > @Fluffball.8307 said: > > Wait what? Did you expect him to be labeled "Veteran Palawa Joko"? I think he's the only Palawa Joko. > But the members of Destiny's Edge are marked with the legendary border even if they don't have "Legendary" in their name. To be fair, a lot of major story NPCs can show up as rankless, legendary, or champion at different times. Faolain, for example, appears as all three (champion during TA, rankless during Season 2 and Bitter Harvest, legendary during Prized Possessions and possibly Prisoners of the Dragon). Dragon's Watch is much the same - even in Season 3, members of Dragon's Watch can show up as legendary or unranked, with or without defiance bars, etc. Largely seems to be dependent on whether or not they're going to fight that instance (fighting instances almost always have them as legendaries as of Season 3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardid.7203 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 What are WE for the NPCs? Veteran? Legendary? Plot armored? Norris level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffball.8307 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 > @Ardid.7203 said: > What are WE for the NPCs? Veteran? Legendary? Plot armored? Norris level? _WAY_ beyond legendary or anything else you listed, considering our resume. If it exists, we can beat it to death and then beat its spirit to death as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llethander.3972 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Praise Joko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arden.7480 Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 Sorry I was wrong... When you listen to the chained man that appears as Palawa Joko he is a normal npc, but when you come back to him after you kill the Eater of Souls he is Legendary. I messed up, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather.6401 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 > @Ardid.7203 said: > What are WE for the NPCs? Veteran? Legendary? Plot armored? Norris level? My friend is an NPC and says your character name is a bunch of skulls and a trigger finger. Most NPCs are pissing themselves when talking to you. Now you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galmac.4680 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Chuck Norris will kill Joko, out of the login window! Prais Joko! (and praise Norris!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 > @Ardid.7203 said: > What are WE for the NPCs? Veteran? Legendary? Plot armored? Norris level? An ordinary mob, according to all the minor criminals who seem to think we'll be easy pickings. Realistically speaking, the NPCs don't have our interface, which means they don't see the veteran/elite/champion/legendary marker. However, we're considered to be on the same level (or higher) to the Destiny's Edge members, and the doppelganger from the Augury Rock meta-event is a Legendary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietPepsi.4371 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 > @draxynnic.3719 said: > > @Ardid.7203 said: > > What are WE for the NPCs? Veteran? Legendary? Plot armored? Norris level? > > An ordinary mob, according to all the minor criminals who seem to think we'll be easy pickings. > > Realistically speaking, the NPCs don't have our interface, which means they don't see the veteran/elite/champion/legendary marker. However, we're considered to be on the same level (or higher) to the Destiny's Edge members, and the doppelganger from the Augury Rock meta-event is a Legendary. Isn't the doppelganger enhanced by magic from Augury Rock though? Hence why it can face off against not only the player it's a clone of, but also several other players. In Pvp players can kill each other in seconds. The doppelganger takes significantly longer. If a player kills legendaries with other players I would not say that counts as the player being a legendary, since that means that NPC is at least as good as all the players that it beats combined(e.g. if a legendary kills a group of 10 that attack it, it is as good as ten players) . I would say it counts on what you are capable of 1v1ing, so if you can 1v1 an Elite or Champion or Epic, that is your rank, whereas significantly less players can 1v1 legendaries*. If you base it on a 1v1 as well that gives you a good idea of that NPC's abilities without its abilities being scaled up. *That's excluding the fact that sometimes an enemy listed as a Legendary is easier than a Champion or Epic, like Balthazar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 There are complicating factors in there. The biggest one, though, is that PvE opponents tend to be pumped up with extra health and damage to make up for the fact that the AI (usually) can't use skills and dodges to the efficiency that a player can. So instead, it gets extra health and damage to compensate, even if lorewise the entity might be equal to or even inferior to the PC. Secondly, it's questionable how much we're actually playing the Dragonslayer when in the open world - obviously, not every PC you see running around can be the Dragonslayer. When in the open world (and possibly for raids as well), it's possibly best to think of yourself as just another adventurer or possible an agent of your Order rather than the Dragonslayer. Which is why things that are reasonably easy to fight in instances often require groups in the open world - when in an instance you _are_ the Dragonslayer with all the strength you'd expect of a person who has killed an Elder Dragon and a fallen god (I don't count Zhaitan. The airship killed Zhaitan, not us), while in open world events you're basically just another adventurer and can't solo the same threats the Dragonslayer can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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