Puunji.3109 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just wondering if anything like this is out there. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K THEN.5162 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Though I don't really PvP, I'd imagine it'd go something like: Scourge Scourge Firebrand Scourge Spellbreaker Scourge Scourge PvP bot More scourge Match manipulating Daredevil SCOOOOURGE And insert pro player alt here... That also plays SCOURGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalist Owner.7802 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"K THEN.5162" said: > Though I don't really PvP, I'd imagine it'd go something like: > Scourge > Scourge > Firebrand > Scourge > Spellbreaker > Scourge > Scourge > PvP bot > More scourge > Match manipulating Daredevil > SCOOOOURGE > And insert pro player alt here... That also plays SCOURGE Spellbreaker is actually kinda terrible now. It's supposed to be a duelist class so it's inherently terrible on teamfight maps like Legacy of the Foefire. On top of that it's hard countered by scourges and mirages, and stalemated by firebrands/bunker druids, all of those classes being top picks right now. Imo the top 50 is going to be tons of scourges, firebrands, and mirages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koto.1824 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 It would be a variety of classes. I don't know the leaderboard on the top of my head but I can mention a few of the best players across both regions Sindrener - Daredevil Misha - Mirage Zan - Holo Frosty - Druid (most of the time, idk) Vaanss - Spellbreaker Obindo - Spellbreaker Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief Kat - Daredevil or Core s/d Steel - Chrono/Mirage Toker - Rev/Thief Moobs - Firebrand Florilla - Mesmer (probably mirage but I don't wanna make assumptions) Tage - Firebrand Majin - Scourge Crann - Firebrand I can't think of any more players right now, but you can see that every class has the potential to be really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"K THEN.5162" said: > Though I don't really PvP, I'd imagine it'd go something like: > Scourge > Scourge > Firebrand > Scourge > Spellbreaker > Scourge > Scourge > PvP bot > More scourge > Match manipulating Daredevil > SCOOOOURGE > And insert pro player alt here... That also plays SCOURGE Most of the top ten are firebrands last I checked. The thing about scourge is that every single team has a scourge on it, so playing scourge isn't necessarily a advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MethaneGas.8357 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"K THEN.5162" said: > Though I don't really PvP, I'd imagine it'd go something like: > Scourge > Scourge > Firebrand > Scourge > Spellbreaker > Scourge > Scourge > PvP bot > More scourge > Match manipulating Daredevil > SCOOOOURGE > And insert pro player alt here... That also plays SCOURGE This is the exact type of misinformation that gets things nerfed. Hardly any of the top 10 are Scourges in NA. Actually... let me check. -#1 is a Druid - go figure. And as far as I can tell from the people up there right now, there is one Scourge, MAYBE two but I don't think so because I would have probably remembered their name cuz #NecroRivalry. -There's 2 Thieves. -At least 2 Firebrands. -One Engi. -One warrior. -As for the other 2 people, I'm not quite sure. Different, and much more interesting than fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vahriin.5438 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I got to top 100 few days ago with soulbeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"K THEN.5162" said: > Though I don't really PvP, I'd imagine it'd go something like: > Scourge > Scourge > Firebrand > Scourge > Spellbreaker > Scourge > Scourge > PvP bot > More scourge > **Match manipulating Daredevil** > SCOOOOURGE > And insert pro player alt here... That also plays SCOURGE ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever.8150 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I don't think Scourge is played all that much in the absolute top end. Its not really a playmaking class, it cannot carry high end games if its not babysat by a Firebrand and the best players tend to be playmakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 > @"Griever.8150" said: > I don't think Scourge is played all that much in the absolute top end. Its not really a playmaking class, it cannot carry high end games if its not babysat by a Firebrand and the best players tend to be playmakers. It is played a lot at the top end, but since it is so common with a super low skill floor most high end scourges are all around the same level so none of them actually stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious.2867 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Koto.1824" said: > Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief Yup. I've seen him play everything but Ranger and Ele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpretor.3091 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"MethaneGas.8357" said: > > @"K THEN.5162" said: > > Though I don't really PvP, I'd imagine it'd go something like: > > Scourge > > Scourge > > Firebrand > > Scourge > > Spellbreaker > > Scourge > > Scourge > > PvP bot > > More scourge > > Match manipulating Daredevil > > SCOOOOURGE > > And insert pro player alt here... That also plays SCOURGE > > This is the exact type of misinformation that gets things nerfed. Hardly any of the top 10 are Scourges in NA. Actually... let me check. > -#1 is a Druid - go figure. And as far as I can tell from the people up there right now, there is one Scourge, MAYBE two but I don't think so because I would have probably remembered their name cuz #NecroRivalry. > -There's 2 Thieves. > -At least 2 Firebrands. > -One Engi. > -One warrior. > -As for the other 2 people, I'm not quite sure. > > Different, and much more interesting than fiction. ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannir.4132 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Furious.2867" said: > > @"Koto.1824" said: > > Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief > > Yup. I've seen him play everything but Ranger and Ele. > > > > Yet Frostball plays almost exclusively Mirage when I see any tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious.2867 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Yannir.4132" said: > > @"Furious.2867" said: > > > @"Koto.1824" said: > > > Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief > > > > Yup. I've seen him play everything but Ranger and Ele. > > > > > > > > > > Yet Frostball plays almost exclusively Mirage when I see any tournaments. He said Mesmer is his favorite profession. He's streaming a naked Mirage right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluri.2653 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Koto.1824" said: > It would be a variety of classes. > I don't know the leaderboard on the top of my head but I can mention a few of the best players across both regions > Sindrener - Daredevil > Misha - Mirage > Zan - Holo > Frosty - Druid (most of the time, idk) > Vaanss - Spellbreaker > Obindo - Spellbreaker > Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief > Kat - Daredevil or Core s/d > Steel - Chrono/Mirage > Toker - Rev/Thief > Moobs - Firebrand > Florilla - Mesmer (probably mirage but I don't wanna make assumptions) > Tage - Firebrand > Majin - Scourge > Crann - Firebrand > > I can't think of any more players right now, but you can see that every class has the potential to be really good > > wrong i q core sd thief now mostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 > @"Koto.1824" said: > It would be a variety of classes. > I don't know the leaderboard on the top of my head but I can mention a few of the best players across both regions > [long list that doesn't include ele] > > I can't think of any more players right now, but you can see that **every class** has the potential to be really good Every class? Ele hasn't been deleted just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannir.4132 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 > @"bluri.2653" said: > > @"Koto.1824" said: > > It would be a variety of classes. > > I don't know the leaderboard on the top of my head but I can mention a few of the best players across both regions > > Sindrener - Daredevil > > Misha - Mirage > > Zan - Holo > > Frosty - Druid (most of the time, idk) > > Vaanss - Spellbreaker > > Obindo - Spellbreaker > > Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief > > Kat - Daredevil or Core s/d > > Steel - Chrono/Mirage > > Toker - Rev/Thief > > Moobs - Firebrand > > Florilla - Mesmer (probably mirage but I don't wanna make assumptions) > > Tage - Firebrand > > Majin - Scourge > > Crann - Firebrand > > > > I can't think of any more players right now, but you can see that every class has the potential to be really good > > > > > > wrong i q core sd thief now mostly You inspired me to try core S/D but I don't know how you do it. I guess I suck at it :lol: At some time I played D/P Drd pretty decently but this core S/D baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I am pretty sure that majority are FBs. Scourge is stupidly overturned but there are 2 scourges on every team now. The team with FB wins however so take a wild guess which class has overall better winrates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Where are all those overpowered Celestial Elementalists where the community was so terrified about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 > @"TheQuickFox.3826" said: > Where are all those overpowered Celestial Elementalists where the community was so terrified about? 2016 tells you it is not good to speak ill of the dead. This has been a thing since forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomiyou.3790 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 > @"Koto.1824" said: > It would be a variety of classes. > I don't know the leaderboard on the top of my head but I can mention a few of the best players across both regions > Sindrener - Daredevil > Misha - Mirage > Zan - Holo > Frosty - Druid (most of the time, idk) > Vaanss - Spellbreaker > Obindo - Spellbreaker > Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief > Kat - Daredevil or Core s/d > Steel - Chrono/Mirage > Toker - Rev/Thief > Moobs - Firebrand > Florilla - Mesmer (probably mirage but I don't wanna make assumptions) > Tage - Firebrand > Majin - Scourge > Crann - Firebrand > > I can't think of any more players right now, but you can see that every class has the potential to be really good > > Disturbing lack of eles. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahkeus.8243 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 > @"Yannir.4132" said: > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > @"Koto.1824" said: > > > It would be a variety of classes. > > > I don't know the leaderboard on the top of my head but I can mention a few of the best players across both regions > > > Sindrener - Daredevil > > > Misha - Mirage > > > Zan - Holo > > > Frosty - Druid (most of the time, idk) > > > Vaanss - Spellbreaker > > > Obindo - Spellbreaker > > > Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief > > > Kat - Daredevil or Core s/d > > > Steel - Chrono/Mirage > > > Toker - Rev/Thief > > > Moobs - Firebrand > > > Florilla - Mesmer (probably mirage but I don't wanna make assumptions) > > > Tage - Firebrand > > > Majin - Scourge > > > Crann - Firebrand > > > > > > I can't think of any more players right now, but you can see that every class has the potential to be really good > > > > > > > > > > wrong i q core sd thief now mostly > > You inspired me to try core S/D but I don't know how you do it. I guess I suck at it :lol: At some time I played D/P Drd pretty decently but this core S/D baffles me. Sindrener has been playing S/D core Thief lately and doing really well with it. Check out his streams (or posted streams on YouTube) if you want to see some good use of the spec. Personally, I think it’s awesome that Thief has a very good core spec as well as the classic DD D/P build. I wish more classes had good core build options available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falan.1839 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Actually checked the ladder, won't do all 250 though. Feel free to fill the empty spots and question marks, I don't know everyone. EU: 1. bluri (sind) - Thief 2. captain nemo (forgot his name) - Nec (?) 3. thijsken - nec/engi 4. Iriel - mostly warr I think. might be multiclass 5. destruction - ??? 6. R I P - ??? 7. koga - Ranger 8. Metrix (misha) - Mes, been alting on engi lately 9. Solmat - nec 10. REAG - ranger??? (not sure) 11. adolfas (zan) - engi 12. chillex - ??? 13. hiokma - ??? 14. kokos banane - nec? 15. beast - nec 16. farrorz - ele mostly, possibly alting on nec? 17. nathou - nec 18. vlerk - mes 19. pouloulou - rev? (might be alting) 20. cjcrew - ??? 21. tolfdir - guard 22. kain - ?? 23. dominik - multiclass, mostly core guard and ranger this season 24. Nemesis - ??? 25. headcrowned - ranger 26. lefrere - mostly ranger I think 27. wismerhill - nec 28. suffish (stronlo) - ranger 29. bartek - ranger 30. vimbi - nec 31. envergure (thybzz) - warr Quite a few unknown names this season. Also some high ranked people don't have minimum games, boyce (warr), obindo (warr), saitara (ele) were in top 25, sizer (thief) dropped out (mb decay) recently. Kris (guard) dropped out due to shitty multiclassing yesterday. Obviously there is a lot of volatility, especially with those who only play minimum games, so even without the missing names this wouldn't be reprsentative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannir.4132 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 > @"Dahkeus.8243" said: > > @"Yannir.4132" said: > > > @"bluri.2653" said: > > > > @"Koto.1824" said: > > > > It would be a variety of classes. > > > > I don't know the leaderboard on the top of my head but I can mention a few of the best players across both regions > > > > Sindrener - Daredevil > > > > Misha - Mirage > > > > Zan - Holo > > > > Frosty - Druid (most of the time, idk) > > > > Vaanss - Spellbreaker > > > > Obindo - Spellbreaker > > > > Frostball - He multiclasses, but I don't know if he can play necro, ranger, or thief > > > > Kat - Daredevil or Core s/d > > > > Steel - Chrono/Mirage > > > > Toker - Rev/Thief > > > > Moobs - Firebrand > > > > Florilla - Mesmer (probably mirage but I don't wanna make assumptions) > > > > Tage - Firebrand > > > > Majin - Scourge > > > > Crann - Firebrand > > > > > > > > I can't think of any more players right now, but you can see that every class has the potential to be really good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrong i q core sd thief now mostly > > > > You inspired me to try core S/D but I don't know how you do it. I guess I suck at it :lol: At some time I played D/P Drd pretty decently but this core S/D baffles me. > > Sindrener has been playing S/D core Thief lately and doing really well with it. Check out his streams (or posted streams on YouTube) if you want to see some good use of the spec. > > Personally, I think it’s awesome that Thief has a very good core spec as well as the classic DD D/P build. I wish more classes had good core build options available. > Guess you didn't notice but it was Sind I was responding to. :smile: And watching his stream was what inspired me in the first place. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilyanna.9361 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 > @"TheQuickFox.3826" said: > Where are all those overpowered Celestial Elementalists where the community was so terrified about? Never existed. All that crying and whining for what? Nothing. Funny that the ones that were SO concerned about celestial eles are no longer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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