Linken.6345 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 > @"vesica tempestas.1563" said: > back to viewing equipment, I think viewing skins is a great idea, and aids positive social interaction. How do it aid positive social interaction when it take away having to ask and actualy socialise with the person? Edit Wops should have checked the day 8 of january, nice necro Deepcuts.9740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laila Lightness.8742 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 No if this feuture came it would kill this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuickFox.3826 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 All nice to me. I love to see what people are wearing around the town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astyrah.4015 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 ohh old thread.. anyway re: topic, i'd prefer if it was wardrobe only like what others have said above and only if it had a toggle option like in Ragnarok Online (you could only let others inspect if you you ticked the checkbox on your equipment ui). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibdabs.3410 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Viewing Wardrobe is fine, but no way do I want anyone viewing my Stats. They're nobody's business but mine and they can keep their nose out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGunner.4953 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I am all for transparency. The content where it is needed is so small, if someone wants to check their gear, it's okay. It worked in most other MMOs as well. But then again, I am in a good position with max gear across all classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard.8150 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > I am all for transparency. The content where it is needed is so small, if someone wants to check their gear, it's okay. It worked in most other MMOs as well. But then again, I am in a good position with max gear across all classes. Works for what, exactly? I can tell you now that there's a world of difference between "having the right gear" and "knowing what to do with it". My favorite example of this comes from swtor, where a dps sage spent the 20 minutes between the time they joined and the group filling complaining about the gear on the healers. Op starts, boss does it's blaring alarms and flashing lights indicating it's about to fire it's "It will one shot the tanks" laser, and the dps just stands there, right in the path of the laser, and dies. All that gear, from being carried, and no concept of mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGunner.4953 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > I am all for transparency. The content where it is needed is so small, if someone wants to check their gear, it's okay. It worked in most other MMOs as well. But then again, I am in a good position with max gear across all classes. > > Works for what, exactly? I can tell you now that there's a world of difference between "having the right gear" and "knowing what to do with it". My favorite example of this comes from swtor, where a dps sage spent the 20 minutes between the time they joined and the group filling complaining about the gear on the healers. Op starts, boss does it's blaring alarms and flashing lights indicating it's about to fire it's "It will one shot the tanks" laser, and the dps just stands there, right in the path of the laser, and dies. All that gear, from being carried, and no concept of mechanics. Having good gear doesn't mean you are a good player, I give you that much. But on the other hand, you can expect that someone who is doing Fractals T4 and Raids has put in so much effort to enter this content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard.8150 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > I am all for transparency. The content where it is needed is so small, if someone wants to check their gear, it's okay. It worked in most other MMOs as well. But then again, I am in a good position with max gear across all classes. > > > > Works for what, exactly? I can tell you now that there's a world of difference between "having the right gear" and "knowing what to do with it". My favorite example of this comes from swtor, where a dps sage spent the 20 minutes between the time they joined and the group filling complaining about the gear on the healers. Op starts, boss does it's blaring alarms and flashing lights indicating it's about to fire it's "It will one shot the tanks" laser, and the dps just stands there, right in the path of the laser, and dies. All that gear, from being carried, and no concept of mechanics. > > Having good gear doesn't mean you are a good player, I give you that much. But on the other hand, you can expect that someone who is doing Fractals T4 and Raids has put in so much effort to enter this content. I just listed an example that shows that that may not be the case at all, you even acknowledge that, and then go on to contradict what you just said. If it doesn't mean you're a good player, then having the gear means exactly that, you have the gear. Did your guild group carry you to it, not you specifically, a general you, or maybe it was a group of friends? It's just another way to exclude. I just finished the vines in HoT, and retaking the base. My armor and weapons are up to snuff, but I got my first good piece of jewelry from doing that. Prior to that, all my jewelry and accessories were greens that I could craft. Be a shame to be excluded from that based on gear, despite being able to play it, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGunner.4953 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > > I am all for transparency. The content where it is needed is so small, if someone wants to check their gear, it's okay. It worked in most other MMOs as well. But then again, I am in a good position with max gear across all classes. > > > > > > Works for what, exactly? I can tell you now that there's a world of difference between "having the right gear" and "knowing what to do with it". My favorite example of this comes from swtor, where a dps sage spent the 20 minutes between the time they joined and the group filling complaining about the gear on the healers. Op starts, boss does it's blaring alarms and flashing lights indicating it's about to fire it's "It will one shot the tanks" laser, and the dps just stands there, right in the path of the laser, and dies. All that gear, from being carried, and no concept of mechanics. > > > > Having good gear doesn't mean you are a good player, I give you that much. But on the other hand, you can expect that someone who is doing Fractals T4 and Raids has put in so much effort to enter this content. > > I just listed an example that shows that that may not be the case at all, you even acknowledge that, and then go on to contradict what you just said. If it doesn't mean you're a good player, then having the gear means exactly that, you have the gear. Did your guild group carry you to it, not you specifically, a general you, or maybe it was a group of friends? It's just another way to exclude. I just finished the vines in HoT, and retaking the base. My armor and weapons are up to snuff, but I got my first good piece of jewelry from doing that. Prior to that, all my jewelry and accessories were greens that I could craft. Be a shame to be excluded from that based on gear, despite being able to play it, wouldn't it? It's no contradiction: Generally, people with better gear have put in more effort and hence are better players. It's the same with a job: if you put in effort and in your career you may (MAY) get better results and a higher life standard. Of course this doesn't include _every_ single situation. People are individuals, situations are individual but generally it works. My experience is: if someone has nothing to hide there is nothing to hide. As a raid leader your job just got easier. Depending on the situation it's also no big deal if someone in exotic gear is applying since the difference is minimal. Though you have to expect and respect the terms of a group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGunner.4953 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > > > I am all for transparency. The content where it is needed is so small, if someone wants to check their gear, it's okay. It worked in most other MMOs as well. But then again, I am in a good position with max gear across all classes. > > > > > > > > Works for what, exactly? I can tell you now that there's a world of difference between "having the right gear" and "knowing what to do with it". My favorite example of this comes from swtor, where a dps sage spent the 20 minutes between the time they joined and the group filling complaining about the gear on the healers. Op starts, boss does it's blaring alarms and flashing lights indicating it's about to fire it's "It will one shot the tanks" laser, and the dps just stands there, right in the path of the laser, and dies. All that gear, from being carried, and no concept of mechanics. > > > > > > Having good gear doesn't mean you are a good player, I give you that much. But on the other hand, you can expect that someone who is doing Fractals T4 and Raids has put in so much effort to enter this content. > > > > I just listed an example that shows that that may not be the case at all, you even acknowledge that, and then go on to contradict what you just said. If it doesn't mean you're a good player, then having the gear means exactly that, you have the gear. Did your guild group carry you to it, not you specifically, a general you, or maybe it was a group of friends? It's just another way to exclude. I just finished the vines in HoT, and retaking the base. My armor and weapons are up to snuff, but I got my first good piece of jewelry from doing that. Prior to that, all my jewelry and accessories were greens that I could craft. Be a shame to be excluded from that based on gear, despite being able to play it, wouldn't it? > > It's no contradiction: Generally, people with better gear have put in more effort and hence are better players. It's the same with a job: if you put in effort and in your career you may (MAY) get better results and a higher life standard. > > Of course this doesn't apply to _every_ single situation. People are individuals, situations are individual but generally it works. My experience is: if someone has nothing to hide there is nothing to hide. As a raid leader your job just got easier. Depending on the situation it's also no big deal if someone in exotic gear is applying since the difference is minimal. Though you have to expect and respect the terms of a group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard.8150 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > > > I am all for transparency. The content where it is needed is so small, if someone wants to check their gear, it's okay. It worked in most other MMOs as well. But then again, I am in a good position with max gear across all classes. > > > > > > > > Works for what, exactly? I can tell you now that there's a world of difference between "having the right gear" and "knowing what to do with it". My favorite example of this comes from swtor, where a dps sage spent the 20 minutes between the time they joined and the group filling complaining about the gear on the healers. Op starts, boss does it's blaring alarms and flashing lights indicating it's about to fire it's "It will one shot the tanks" laser, and the dps just stands there, right in the path of the laser, and dies. All that gear, from being carried, and no concept of mechanics. > > > > > > Having good gear doesn't mean you are a good player, I give you that much. But on the other hand, you can expect that someone who is doing Fractals T4 and Raids has put in so much effort to enter this content. > > > > I just listed an example that shows that that may not be the case at all, you even acknowledge that, and then go on to contradict what you just said. If it doesn't mean you're a good player, then having the gear means exactly that, you have the gear. Did your guild group carry you to it, not you specifically, a general you, or maybe it was a group of friends? It's just another way to exclude. I just finished the vines in HoT, and retaking the base. My armor and weapons are up to snuff, but I got my first good piece of jewelry from doing that. Prior to that, all my jewelry and accessories were greens that I could craft. Be a shame to be excluded from that based on gear, despite being able to play it, wouldn't it? > > It's no contradiction: Generally, people with better gear have put in more effort and hence are better players. It's the same with a job: if you put in effort and in your career you may (MAY) get better results and a higher life standard. > > Of course this doesn't include _every_ single situation. People are individuals, situations are individual but generally it works. My experience is: if someone has nothing to hide there is nothing to hide. As a raid leader your job just got easier. Depending on the situation it's also no big deal if someone in exotic gear is applying since the difference is minimal. Though you have to expect and respect the terms of a group. It's a gamble. The only way to be sure you get the "right people" in your group is to form a static. This doesn't require gear checks, or achievement checks, it just requires tapping the discord, or the guild to build your group. It's what I've done in MMOs since I started playing them and ran into "undesirables" on either end of the spectrum. If you can't fill a group that way, maybe it's time to find a new guild, or another one, specifically for those instances where you really want the "right" people. That way the group is always respected, and you don't have to worry about who's going to turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nury.3062 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I guess i played this game for too long since i know every weapon and armor skin and how to get it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazreal Blackknight.1564 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Fashion Wars is my endgame, but if you see me and wanna know what I am wearing ask me. I will tell ya. I wouldn't mind a view option as long as it's not my stats, runes, sigils (cause that's a give away in wvw) raid stats sure you can see those, Hi I am the druid healing you! Harrier stats, shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGunner.4953 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > > > @"robertthebard.8150" said: > > > > > > @"ProtoGunner.4953" said: > > > > > > I am all for transparency. The content where it is needed is so small, if someone wants to check their gear, it's okay. It worked in most other MMOs as well. But then again, I am in a good position with max gear across all classes. > > > > > > > > > > Works for what, exactly? I can tell you now that there's a world of difference between "having the right gear" and "knowing what to do with it". My favorite example of this comes from swtor, where a dps sage spent the 20 minutes between the time they joined and the group filling complaining about the gear on the healers. Op starts, boss does it's blaring alarms and flashing lights indicating it's about to fire it's "It will one shot the tanks" laser, and the dps just stands there, right in the path of the laser, and dies. All that gear, from being carried, and no concept of mechanics. > > > > > > > > Having good gear doesn't mean you are a good player, I give you that much. But on the other hand, you can expect that someone who is doing Fractals T4 and Raids has put in so much effort to enter this content. > > > > > > I just listed an example that shows that that may not be the case at all, you even acknowledge that, and then go on to contradict what you just said. If it doesn't mean you're a good player, then having the gear means exactly that, you have the gear. Did your guild group carry you to it, not you specifically, a general you, or maybe it was a group of friends? It's just another way to exclude. I just finished the vines in HoT, and retaking the base. My armor and weapons are up to snuff, but I got my first good piece of jewelry from doing that. Prior to that, all my jewelry and accessories were greens that I could craft. Be a shame to be excluded from that based on gear, despite being able to play it, wouldn't it? > > > > It's no contradiction: Generally, people with better gear have put in more effort and hence are better players. It's the same with a job: if you put in effort and in your career you may (MAY) get better results and a higher life standard. > > > > Of course this doesn't include _every_ single situation. People are individuals, situations are individual but generally it works. My experience is: if someone has nothing to hide there is nothing to hide. As a raid leader your job just got easier. Depending on the situation it's also no big deal if someone in exotic gear is applying since the difference is minimal. Though you have to expect and respect the terms of a group. > > It's a gamble. The only way to be sure you get the "right people" in your group is to form a static. This doesn't require gear checks, or achievement checks, it just requires tapping the discord, or the guild to build your group. It's what I've done in MMOs since I started playing them and ran into "undesirables" on either end of the spectrum. If you can't fill a group that way, maybe it's time to find a new guild, or another one, specifically for those instances where you really want the "right" people. That way the group is always respected, and you don't have to worry about who's going to turn up. You are absolutely right. I do 90% of high end content with people I know or mostly know. With other words: I don't have that many pug experience. Maybe a couple of T4 runs though. That said: I also ran a magi druid a couple of twice and this druid only had exotic gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloc Freidon.5692 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 People who don't like a peak feature really have things to hide with their build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry.5713 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Prefering to keep your fashion choices private is something I can understand. A little silly but why not. It's Fashion Wars afterall. However, it is hard to imagine why anyone would care to keep their stats private unless they are used to knowingly disrespecting the wishes of those they play with in actual "group content". The fear to be judged based on your gear alone is understandable but so is people's reluctance to go in blind as well as their wish for transperancy to view the tools you brought to the group. There should certainly be the option to keep everything about yourself private if being part of a team is not your cup of tea. Not to mention that others might notice something you simply did not pay attention to yourself. You'd be surprised how often people happen to pick wrong traits or wrong gear gear on the fly even in statics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 > @"Eloc Freidon.5692" said: > People who don't like a peak feature really have things to hide with their build. This is a broad assumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimo.3281 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 this has been possible for select or some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebard.8150 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 > @"Eloc Freidon.5692" said: > People who don't like a peak feature really have things to hide with their build. Or, maybe we don't want you looking in our virtual windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloc Freidon.5692 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > @"Eloc Freidon.5692" said: > > People who don't like a peak feature really have things to hide with their build. > > This is a broad assumption Not hearing anyone deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 > @"Eloc Freidon.5692" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > @"Eloc Freidon.5692" said: > > > People who don't like a peak feature really have things to hide with their build. > > > > This is a broad assumption > > Not hearing anyone deny it. Don't confuse a lack of rebuttal for acceptance of one's side of an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibdabs.3410 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 > @"Eloc Freidon.5692" said: > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > @"Eloc Freidon.5692" said: > > > People who don't like a peak feature really have things to hide with their build. > > > > This is a broad assumption > > Not hearing anyone deny it. It's not worth the effort, because it's a silly statement. We read it, we were amused, we dismissed it and moved on to other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 > @"Eloc Freidon.5692" said: > People who don't like a peak feature really have things to hide with their build. Or i just dont want people looking, and since you want a rebuttal. The character i use in raids is 100% Meta, full ascended, multiple legendaries, proper sigils, runes, and even going so far as to have +5 infusions for the damage i do. I *Still* dont want this idiotic feature added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 No more than posts that are anti-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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