Yannir.4132 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"SuperduperMLGbsns.9345" said: > Warrior. Most things at this class are okay but the duration of resistance combined with blocks is absurd. If you have to wait over 20 secs just to start some dmg then there is something wrong. What patch are you living in? After the Berserker Stance nerf warriors can't hold even 10 seconds of Resistance anymore. My vote was a coin toss between mesmer and druid. Mesmer won, their current burst is borderline ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kako.1930 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Genesis.5169" said: > > @"Imperadordf.2687" said: > > > @"Genesis.5169" said: > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > @"Genesis.5169" said: > > > > > I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore. > > > > > > > > > > And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post patch I've seen mesmers able to drop 26+ stacks of confusion on a player. The only difference now is that it isn't immediately lethal to the target. > > > > > > > > PvE is an entirely different matter from PvP. Different needs, different playstyles. > > > > > > No u haven't please stop lying. > > > > Aren’t you the one who was saying Condi Mirage can’t even get 15+ confusions with 1 burst? Lol. > > > > And pre-patch, a perfect Axe/Torch burst could stack 28 confusion + 9 Torment + 12 Burn stacks. > > > > Please stop defending an overperforming class just because you main it. > > So let me get this straight. > One guy says 26+ i call him a liar. > You say 15+ an call me a liar. > > No where did i said we can't make it to 15 we can for 3 seconds blowing 3 very long cds and 6 clones. > And, why are you bringing up pre patch like that matters? As we are post patch now and this conversation as far as i can tell is a post patch one. > > Yet more proof this isn't a fair a unbiased poll. It's just filled with people who don't know how to play against mesmers and in sight of that they refuse to l2p and cry for nerfs and make up stories. Or maybe there's a certain mesmer going thread to thread picking fights with people because he's not as good as the average mesmer and isn't getting the same results that the others are talking about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperadordf.2687 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Genesis.5169" said: > > @"Imperadordf.2687" said: > > > @"Genesis.5169" said: > > > > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > > > > > @"Genesis.5169" said: > > > > > I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore. > > > > > > > > > > And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post patch I've seen mesmers able to drop 26+ stacks of confusion on a player. The only difference now is that it isn't immediately lethal to the target. > > > > > > > > PvE is an entirely different matter from PvP. Different needs, different playstyles. > > > > > > No u haven't please stop lying. > > > > Aren’t you the one who was saying Condi Mirage can’t even get 15+ confusions with 1 burst? Lol. > > > > And pre-patch, a perfect Axe/Torch burst could stack 28 confusion + 9 Torment + 12 Burn stacks. > > > > Please stop defending an overperforming class just because you main it. > > So let me get this straight. > One guy says 26+ i call him a liar. > You say 15+ an call me a liar. > > No where did i said we can't make it to 15 we can for 3 seconds blowing 3 very long cds and 6 clones. > And, why are you bringing up pre patch like that matters? As we are post patch now and this conversation as far as i can tell is a post patch one. > > Yet more proof this isn't a fair a unbiased poll. It's just filled with people who don't know how to play against mesmers and in sight of that they refuse to l2p and cry for nerfs and make up stories. Misread, I thought the guy said +26 Prepatch, which is impossible at the moment. But the poll is for “THE most OP class”. That doesn’t mean the class is OP, but Power Mesmer is THE most OP (or one of the most OP - Basically a META build) class at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daishi.6027 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Ranger because sustain never die builds are objectively more unhealthy for the game and it’s objective type than squish builds you can beat by dodging properly. People voting for mes need to get their heads out of 1v1 matchups that they clearly do not understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalrat.5493 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 It's a toss up between Mesmo and Teef for me, but honestly nobody is approaching the absurd idiocy Scourge was pre-patch so I'm happy. Deadeye is hitting like an absolute truck and pretty hard to keep up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxx.5021 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Every anet "balancing" patch introduces new imbalance - so pathetic the balancing team does when it comes to PvP balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish.8627 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I went with Thief because their escapes in WvW are a bit much in my opinion. Mind you I feel this for mesmer too. I don't think if you have a prof with the best burst and damage you should also be untouchable unless your opponent has similar abilities and can close the gap. Meaning unless you yourself have a thief or mesmer, they are likely to get away. I would say DH is pretty bad for this too, as they can spike damage and escape, but you can at least fight them as they can't almost instakill like the first two. Ranger sustain and druid escape is also another issue. I have seen small groups chase them down, catch up, barely make a scratch and then watch them escape again. For me as long as they are off point I am happy. TL:DR Risk vs reward is very imbalanced on mesmer, druid and thief but I feel thief is the prime suspect. You can pick up a thief in exotic gear, walk into WvW, instadown a player and escape from several others with a very short amount of time to practise. I don't feel damage should be changed however, just the ability to escape the fight they engaged with reduced so its possible to catch them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Guardian is to OP, needs to be removed so every one plays firebrand. Sanctuary 1miunute when traited, form something that barelly is used in the game, it is to OP... this need a super nerf. Shouts.... that many boons that well.. what boons? And those spirit weapons..... they insta miss targets or caster gets killed while waiting to the skill to cast... no chance, to OP as well, since they have no place in pve, nor pvp nor WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknamenick.2437 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Genesis.5169" said: > I'm not even gonna look ima assume that everyone posted mesmer because people don't know how to play and if that is the case this poll has zero to no credibility as our so called OP spec was nerfed to the ground axe skills don't even drop confusion anymore. > > And for those talking about on the pve side mesmers aren't even in top 3 for dps so please. > Lol.. boehoe.. I voted ranger: >druids.. you cant nerf sustain from all specs but forget about this spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmiguel.8517 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Vagrant.7206" said: > Both druid and mesmer seem to be overperforming right now, but they aren't as egregious as scourge/FB combo was. Power shatter has had the ability to one-shot people from stealth for some time now, at least now it seems to be getting attention. > > Also, FB support is still incredibly strong, despite the nerfs. FB support is on par with heal tempest and heal druid, so I don't think it needs nerfs. Then again, I'm biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETWING.2759 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 1° Warrior: Full conter animation bug and invul uptime. 2° Necromancer: Scourge Barrier and Reaper damage. Plz Anet. Bring back old plague elite or tranform in to a well type. This current one is terrible. 3° Druid: Too much damage with too much sustain. Currently, Druid is a bunker DPS :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haku.1648 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 1) Mesmer. Mirage is exceedingly powerful and really needs to be tuned down. Too much burst, survivability and mobility. 2) Scourge. Well, everybody knows why. I play scourge, I'm not an expert though, but it has too much easy aoe dps. Maybe nerf his dps and improve its support, and let reaper to be the dps spec. 3) Spellbreaker. In my opinion, it is on the same level of scourge. Not the same teamfight power, but it has just too much damage and survivability at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"JETWING.2759" said: > 2° Necromancer: Scourge Barrier and **Reaper damage** Lmao. I guess you have never faced a holosmith. > @"Haku.1648" said: > 1) Mesmer. Mirage is exceedingly powerful and really needs to be tuned down. Too much burst, survivability and mobility. > 2) Scourge. Well, everybody knows why. I play scourge, I'm not an expert though, but it has too much easy aoe dps. Maybe nerf his dps and improve its support, and let reaper to be the dps spec. > 3) Spellbreaker. In my opinion, it is on the same level of scourge. Not the same teamfight power, but it has just too much damage and survivability at the same time. Unsurprisingly, the guy with the druid avatar doesn't think druid is anywhere close to top 3 most broken builds atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxsdgxX.8109 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Along with Druid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETWING.2759 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Razor.6392" said: > > @"JETWING.2759" said: > > 2° Necromancer: Scourge Barrier and **Reaper damage** > > Lmao. I guess you have never faced a holosmith. > No problem with holosmith. They re só squish, and requires too much skill... Most them comes down very quickly =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardenwolfe.8590 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 There is no balance in an MMO. It's a unicorn. Please quit looking for it. All it does is create an endless cycle of nerfs and very unhappy players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pah.4931 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Mesmer was my vote but I really hate fighting engineers. BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeL.8260 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Where is the 'none' option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Mesmer is just immune to being pushed out of the meta, the build just changed. Honorable mentions to druid and holo. Overall this is still healthier than the scourge/firebrand spam meta. Can't complain. As much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerni.2584 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Mesmer needs some reductions in damage. Especially the downed skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkystuff.1563 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 > @"Morwath.9817" said: > Ooo, Quaggan sees a poll, Quaggan gonna vote, even tho Quaggan is ill and had no opportunity to play yet! dude i miss your ooo000oo quaggan thinks... posts . get well soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 druid and maybe power mes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 "Ranger" should really just say "Druid" because technically nothing much is wrong with core Ranger. Longbow is overloaded but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haku.1648 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 @Razor : I don't play druid since a long time. As I said, I play Scourge. And it's childish to criticize somebody's opinion based on this ^^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weerus.3701 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Can I ask why mesmer have such strong lead? Why would it need nerf? Honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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