Can you make a Boss AI algorithm to AoE attack stackers

[Knighthonor.4061]

I think this could be a great addition to the game to make players do new tactics for boss fights other than just stacking in one place during certain phases of boss fights.

 

What if the game added an algorithm that identify if 8 or more people are standing aggro in a nearby area during a boss fight, and have the boss send a massive AoE attack to that identified location. This could punish that behavior and make people play the boss fights in a more challenging fun way that was originally intended.

[derd.6413]

i think you highly underestimate the difficulties of programming ai. also how do you prevent the boss from just becoming anti-melee.

[SlippyCheeze.5483]

> @"Knighthonor.4061" said:

> I think this could be a great addition to the game to make players do new tactics for boss fights other than just stacking in one place during certain phases of boss fights.

>

> What if the game added an algorithm that identify if 8 or more people are standing aggro in a nearby area during a boss fight, and have the boss send a massive AoE attack to that identified location. This could punish that behavior and make people play the boss fights in a more challenging fun way that was originally intended.

 

Essentially, "social awkwardness" for world bosses?

[Khisanth.2948]

I got a crazier idea ... what if world bosses actually learned to walk?

 

Many bosses are already chuck full of AoEs. Do you really think adding more would much of an improvement?

[Knighthonor.4061]

> @"derd.6413" said:

> i think you highly underestimate the difficulties of programming ai. also how do you prevent the boss from just becoming anti-melee.

 

Well because Melee attacks has a minimum range already. So anything outside of that isn't melee. That's not a difficult check point because I believe they already have similar check points in the game currently.

[Ayrilana.1396]

One possible consequence of this is that players will just range attack the boss from a distance. Just look at what happened with the Golem world boss. I hardly consider that engaging or challenging.

[Neural.1824]

How is stacking on boss fights harming you personally?

[Feanor.2358]

> @"Knighthonor.4061" said:

> I think this could be a great addition to the game to make players do new tactics for boss fights other than just stacking in one place during certain phases of boss fights.

>

> What if the game added an algorithm that identify if 8 or more people are standing aggro in a nearby area during a boss fight, and have the boss send a massive AoE attack to that identified location. This could punish that behavior and make people play the boss fights in a more challenging fun way that was originally intended.

 

It's easy to do technically, but it wouldn't make fights more fun. To the contrary, it will make them more annoying. So we won't be seeing it. We *may* see it as a particular behavior on a particular boss. But general mechanic throughout the whole game? Not a chance.

[IndigoSundown.5419]

> @"Knighthonor.4061" said:

> I think this could be a great addition to the game to make players do new tactics for boss fights other than just stacking in one place during certain phases of boss fights.

>

> What if the game added an algorithm that identify if 8 or more people are standing aggro in a nearby area during a boss fight, and have the boss send a massive AoE attack to that identified location. This could punish that behavior and make people play the boss fights in a more challenging fun way that was originally intended.

 

Intended? The short range application of boons which produce such large force multipliers suggests that players being in close proximity in burn phases _is_ the intended behavior.

[Fengzhou.9853]

> @"derd.6413" said:

> i think you highly underestimate the difficulties of programming ai. also how do you prevent the boss from just becoming anti-melee.

 

Especially in a game that literally pushes ALL classes to pretty much BE in melee range, if not, just using melee weapons.. >>;

[Vrita.7846]

Sure, as soon as Anet expands the range at which you can gain boons, then maybe we won't stack on the boss's ass anymore unless you're melee..

[Arzurag.7506]

Another thing I would add to the wishlist of features for GW3.

[zealex.9410]

Or introduce more attacks that need to have ppl stack soak or spread.

[GrubySzymek.1362]

I see nothing wrong with stacking. Game mechanics are built the way to not only encourage but basically demand such gameplay behaviour.

[Scud.5067]

Party wide debuff. Does periodic damage to each party member. Damage per tick increases significantly when near another party member. Cumulative effect.

 

[kurfu.5623]

> @"Neural.1824" said:

> How is stacking on boss fights harming you personally?

 

It makes him unhappy that other people aren't playing the game the way *he* thinks they should be.

[Stalkingwolf.6035]

> @"Scud.5067" said:

> Party wide debuff. Does periodic damage to each party member. Damage per tick increases significantly when near another party member. Cumulative effect.

>

 

well there are bounty bosses who have this ability and it su... because most players just running around and add the debuff to everybody else.

 

some eventbosses get zerged by 40 or more players. and you want to add such an abilty?

[GrubySzymek.1362]

> @"Stalkingwolf.6035" said:

> > @"Scud.5067" said:

> > Party wide debuff. Does periodic damage to each party member. Damage per tick increases significantly when near another party member. Cumulative effect.

> >

>

> well there are bounty bosses who have this ability and it su... because most players just running around and add the debuff to everybody else.

>

> some eventbosses get zerged by 40 or more players. and you want to add such an abilty?

 

Bounty bosses random "features" is the reason why I stopped doing them at all. Why would I play something that intentionally annoys me?

[Healix.5819]

> @"Ayrilana.1396" said:

> One possible consequence of this is that players will just range attack the boss from a distance. Just look at what happened with the Golem world boss. I hardly consider that engaging or challenging.

 

If ArenaNet cared to fix it, that wouldn't be possible. It's ultimately pointless however as long as it's possible to earn the same rewards as everyone else simply for tagging the boss. Unfortunately, they'll never fix that. I'm surprised more people don't abuse it, since you can easily double your rewards at world bosses, plus if all the low DPSers left, it'd be so much faster.