Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > > > > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them I don’t really care either way. Maybe it’ll get hot fixed. I just use Resolve to burst heal, and Courage to top off Protection if I mess up. **shrug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them > > I don’t really care either way. Maybe it’ll get hot fixed. I just use Resolve to burst heal, and Courage to block, and top off Protection if I mess up *shrug* > > If it gets hot-fixed? Great, it's correcting something that went wrong. Do I expect it to? No, Anet are just simply lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them > > > > I don’t really care either way. Maybe it’ll get hot fixed. I just use Resolve to burst heal, and Courage to block, and top off Protection if I mess up *shrug* > > > > > > If it gets hot-fixed? Great, it's correcting something that went wrong. Do I expect it to? No, Anet are just simply lazy You said you mainly play Support FB, and I do too currently. This doesn’t change anything. For Resolve you just use 5, 4, 1, 1, 1 to burst heal. For Corage you just use 5, then spam 1, 1, 1, 1. You shouldn’t have to use them much at all. When you use Tomes, you want to use them up as fast as possible, or you mess up permanent Quickness, Fury, Regeneration, Stability, Vigor, and Protection. On some fights, maybe throw in a 3 or 4 with Courage, or a 2 with Reaolve to cleanse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them > > > > > > I don’t really care either way. Maybe it’ll get hot fixed. I just use Resolve to burst heal, and Courage to block, and top off Protection if I mess up *shrug* > > > > > > > > > > If it gets hot-fixed? Great, it's correcting something that went wrong. Do I expect it to? No, Anet are just simply lazy > > You said you mainly play Support FB, and I do too currently. This doesn’t change anything. For Resolve you just use 5, 4, 1, 1, 1 to burst heal. For Corage you just use 5, then spam 1, 1, 1, 1. You shouldn’t have to use them much at all. When you use Tomes, you want to use them up as fast as possible, or you mess up permanent Quickness, Fury, Regeneration, and Protection. On some fights, maybe throw in a 3 or 4 with Courage, or a 2 with Reaolve to cleanse. > > I'm well aware of how to play it, the issue is that they're basing PVE nerfs on PVP content. This is sheer incompetence and laziness. You NEVER mix balancing between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Mea.5491" said: > I don't care about WvW and PvP nerf but why nerf Tomes in PvE? It is a PvP only nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them > > > > > > > > I don’t really care either way. Maybe it’ll get hot fixed. I just use Resolve to burst heal, and Courage to block, and top off Protection if I mess up *shrug* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it gets hot-fixed? Great, it's correcting something that went wrong. Do I expect it to? No, Anet are just simply lazy > > > > You said you mainly play Support FB, and I do too currently. This doesn’t change anything. For Resolve you just use 5, 4, 1, 1, 1 to burst heal. For Corage you just use 5, then spam 1, 1, 1, 1. You shouldn’t have to use them much at all. When you use Tomes, you want to use them up as fast as possible, or you mess up permanent Quickness, Fury, Regeneration, and Protection. On some fights, maybe throw in a 3 or 4 with Courage, or a 2 with Reaolve to cleanse. > > > > > > I'm well aware of how to play it, the issue is that they're basing PVE nerfs on PVP content. This is sheer incompetence and laziness. You NEVER mix balancing between the two. I get what you mean, but I’m just telling you it doesn’t matter for PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them > > > > > > > > > > I don’t really care either way. Maybe it’ll get hot fixed. I just use Resolve to burst heal, and Courage to block, and top off Protection if I mess up *shrug* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it gets hot-fixed? Great, it's correcting something that went wrong. Do I expect it to? No, Anet are just simply lazy > > > > > > You said you mainly play Support FB, and I do too currently. This doesn’t change anything. For Resolve you just use 5, 4, 1, 1, 1 to burst heal. For Corage you just use 5, then spam 1, 1, 1, 1. You shouldn’t have to use them much at all. When you use Tomes, you want to use them up as fast as possible, or you mess up permanent Quickness, Fury, Regeneration, and Protection. On some fights, maybe throw in a 3 or 4 with Courage, or a 2 with Reaolve to cleanse. > > > > > > > > > > I'm well aware of how to play it, the issue is that they're basing PVE nerfs on PVP content. This is sheer incompetence and laziness. You NEVER mix balancing between the two. > > I get what you mean, but I’m just telling you it doesn’t matter for PvE. > > > > It does matter, and PVP should NEVER influence PVE (and vice versa) for buffs and nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t really care either way. Maybe it’ll get hot fixed. I just use Resolve to burst heal, and Courage to block, and top off Protection if I mess up *shrug* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it gets hot-fixed? Great, it's correcting something that went wrong. Do I expect it to? No, Anet are just simply lazy > > > > > > > > You said you mainly play Support FB, and I do too currently. This doesn’t change anything. For Resolve you just use 5, 4, 1, 1, 1 to burst heal. For Corage you just use 5, then spam 1, 1, 1, 1. You shouldn’t have to use them much at all. When you use Tomes, you want to use them up as fast as possible, or you mess up permanent Quickness, Fury, Regeneration, and Protection. On some fights, maybe throw in a 3 or 4 with Courage, or a 2 with Reaolve to cleanse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm well aware of how to play it, the issue is that they're basing PVE nerfs on PVP content. This is sheer incompetence and laziness. You NEVER mix balancing between the two. > > > > I get what you mean, but I’m just telling you it doesn’t matter for PvE. > > > > > > > > > > It does matter, and PVP should NEVER influence PVE (and vice versa) for buffs and nerfs. I agree PvP shouldn’t influence PvE balance, but this is something they’ve done historically for a lot classes, like Necro. I think it’s dumb, but this Tome CD increase still doesn’t do anything bad for Support FB in PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead.1963 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you just play PvE, then why does this change matter to you at all? You never use Tomes on CD, and only use them when needing to block or burst heal. If you are using your Tomes on CD, then you aren’t playing well, and are actually destroying your healing, and support output. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do I need to bold it or something? PVE and PVP should never affect one another. These nerfs were clearly aimed at PVP yet Anet for god knows what reason, didn't split all of them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t really care either way. Maybe it’ll get hot fixed. I just use Resolve to burst heal, and Courage to block, and top off Protection if I mess up *shrug* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it gets hot-fixed? Great, it's correcting something that went wrong. Do I expect it to? No, Anet are just simply lazy > > > > > > > > > > You said you mainly play Support FB, and I do too currently. This doesn’t change anything. For Resolve you just use 5, 4, 1, 1, 1 to burst heal. For Corage you just use 5, then spam 1, 1, 1, 1. You shouldn’t have to use them much at all. When you use Tomes, you want to use them up as fast as possible, or you mess up permanent Quickness, Fury, Regeneration, and Protection. On some fights, maybe throw in a 3 or 4 with Courage, or a 2 with Reaolve to cleanse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm well aware of how to play it, the issue is that they're basing PVE nerfs on PVP content. This is sheer incompetence and laziness. You NEVER mix balancing between the two. > > > > > > I get what you mean, but I’m just telling you it doesn’t matter for PvE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does matter, and PVP should NEVER influence PVE (and vice versa) for buffs and nerfs. > > I agree PvP shouldn’t influence PvE balance, but this is something they’ve done historically for a lot classes, like Necro. I think it’s dumb, but this Tome CD increase still doesn’t do anything bad for Support FB in PvE. > They should never ever be doing it period, it does do something bad for PVE - it exists. An unwarranted nerf is still an unwarranted nerf regardless. By definition, a nerf is to make something worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarox.9601 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > 25sec is "some" CD lol. You are no guardian main, thus me no longer talking with you. Enjoy next balance patch spirit weapon and sigil buffs and praise anet to the heavens cause of it. Cause of casuals like you guardian will always be bot friendly and not used on high skill level content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. > > And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. I did, and think it’s not worth responding to. I raid, do CMs, and Fractals. I also talk to the top players in game, and former top players. Where as Guardian is not always the best, it’s still been the best balanced class over GW2’s balance patches. Many agree on this. It has multiple great builds in all game modes, It gets buffed more than nerfed, and the patch today shows this. I don’t really know what else to say to you. I’m someone with experience, and I talk with other experienced players too. The recent nerf to Chrono will probably make Support FB a lot better. I look forward to chats in Discord about the changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > > > > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > > > > > > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. > > > > > > And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. > > > > I did, and think it’s not worth responding to. I raid, do CMs, and Fractals. I also talk to the top players in game, and former top players. Where as Guardian is not always the best, it’s still been the best balanced class over GW2’s balance patches. Many agree on this. It has multiple great builds in all game modes, It gets buffed more than nerfed, and the patch today shows this. I don’t really know what else to say to you. I’m someone with experience, and I talk with other experienced players too. The recent nerf to Chrono will probably make Support FB a lot better. I look forward to chats in Discord about the changes. > > > > > > > > > > You deemed it not worth responding to, because you don't like the point made. Claims of "talking to top players" can pretty much be ignored (especially without evidence). More's the point, your entire argument is irrelevant because you're ok with a nerf being made in PVE based on PVP, seeing as how you think the nerf is fine. I never claimed it was fine. Also, you can think what you want, I don’t care. It’s players like you that overreact for no reason, then see benchmarks, and see everything is fine. You never take the time to actually evaluate what changes in a balance patch. You come to the forums, throw a fit without thinking, call people names, and just keep refusing to actually stop, slow down, and realize you’re overreacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > > > > > > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > > > > > > > > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. > > > > > > > > And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. > > > > > > I did, and think it’s not worth responding to. I raid, do CMs, and Fractals. I also talk to the top players in game, and former top players. Where as Guardian is not always the best, it’s still been the best balanced class over GW2’s balance patches. Many agree on this. It has multiple great builds in all game modes, It gets buffed more than nerfed, and the patch today shows this. I don’t really know what else to say to you. I’m someone with experience, and I talk with other experienced players too. The recent nerf to Chrono will probably make Support FB a lot better. I look forward to chats in Discord about the changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You deemed it not worth responding to, because you don't like the point made. Claims of "talking to top players" can pretty much be ignored (especially without evidence). More's the point, your entire argument is irrelevant because you're ok with a nerf being made in PVE based on PVP, seeing as how you think the nerf is fine. > > I never claimed it was fine. Also, you can think what you want, I don’t care. It’s players like you that overreact for no reason, then see benchmarks, and see everything is fine. You never take the time to actually evaluate what changes in a balance patch. You come to the forums, throw a fit without thinking, call people names, and just keep refusing to actually stop, slow down, and realize you’re overreacting. > > There is literally no overreacting, when PVE nerfs are shoe-horned in by a team who have no idea what they're doing. That is the biggest problem with people like you, you seem to think it's fine, as proven by your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > > > > > > > > > > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. > > > > > > > > > > And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. > > > > > > > > I did, and think it’s not worth responding to. I raid, do CMs, and Fractals. I also talk to the top players in game, and former top players. Where as Guardian is not always the best, it’s still been the best balanced class over GW2’s balance patches. Many agree on this. It has multiple great builds in all game modes, It gets buffed more than nerfed, and the patch today shows this. I don’t really know what else to say to you. I’m someone with experience, and I talk with other experienced players too. The recent nerf to Chrono will probably make Support FB a lot better. I look forward to chats in Discord about the changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You deemed it not worth responding to, because you don't like the point made. Claims of "talking to top players" can pretty much be ignored (especially without evidence). More's the point, your entire argument is irrelevant because you're ok with a nerf being made in PVE based on PVP, seeing as how you think the nerf is fine. > > > > I never claimed it was fine. Also, you can think what you want, I don’t care. It’s players like you that overreact for no reason, then see benchmarks, and see everything is fine. You never take the time to actually evaluate what changes in a balance patch. You come to the forums, throw a fit without thinking, call people names, and just keep refusing to actually stop, slow down, and realize you’re overreacting. > > > > > > There is literally no overreacting, when PVE nerfs are shoe-horned in by a team who have no idea what they're doing. That is the biggest problem with people like you, you seem to think it's fine, as proven by your post. I never said it was fine... Do you not see what I’ve said? The balance choice was stupid. What I’m saying is that this won’t change your play style at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alehin.3746 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 FB is still OP in all gamemodes, stop crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. > > > > > > > > > > > > And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. > > > > > > > > > > I did, and think it’s not worth responding to. I raid, do CMs, and Fractals. I also talk to the top players in game, and former top players. Where as Guardian is not always the best, it’s still been the best balanced class over GW2’s balance patches. Many agree on this. It has multiple great builds in all game modes, It gets buffed more than nerfed, and the patch today shows this. I don’t really know what else to say to you. I’m someone with experience, and I talk with other experienced players too. The recent nerf to Chrono will probably make Support FB a lot better. I look forward to chats in Discord about the changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You deemed it not worth responding to, because you don't like the point made. Claims of "talking to top players" can pretty much be ignored (especially without evidence). More's the point, your entire argument is irrelevant because you're ok with a nerf being made in PVE based on PVP, seeing as how you think the nerf is fine. > > > > > > I never claimed it was fine. Also, you can think what you want, I don’t care. It’s players like you that overreact for no reason, then see benchmarks, and see everything is fine. You never take the time to actually evaluate what changes in a balance patch. You come to the forums, throw a fit without thinking, call people names, and just keep refusing to actually stop, slow down, and realize you’re overreacting. > > > > > > > > > > There is literally no overreacting, when PVE nerfs are shoe-horned in by a team who have no idea what they're doing. That is the biggest problem with people like you, you seem to think it's fine, as proven by your post. > > I never said it was fine... Do you not see what I’ve said? The balance choice was stupid. What I’m saying is that this won’t change your play style at all. > > By claiming we're overreacting, you're stating you're reacting normally, as though everything was fine. The opposite is true, this isn't fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did, and think it’s not worth responding to. I raid, do CMs, and Fractals. I also talk to the top players in game, and former top players. Where as Guardian is not always the best, it’s still been the best balanced class over GW2’s balance patches. Many agree on this. It has multiple great builds in all game modes, It gets buffed more than nerfed, and the patch today shows this. I don’t really know what else to say to you. I’m someone with experience, and I talk with other experienced players too. The recent nerf to Chrono will probably make Support FB a lot better. I look forward to chats in Discord about the changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You deemed it not worth responding to, because you don't like the point made. Claims of "talking to top players" can pretty much be ignored (especially without evidence). More's the point, your entire argument is irrelevant because you're ok with a nerf being made in PVE based on PVP, seeing as how you think the nerf is fine. > > > > > > > > I never claimed it was fine. Also, you can think what you want, I don’t care. It’s players like you that overreact for no reason, then see benchmarks, and see everything is fine. You never take the time to actually evaluate what changes in a balance patch. You come to the forums, throw a fit without thinking, call people names, and just keep refusing to actually stop, slow down, and realize you’re overreacting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is literally no overreacting, when PVE nerfs are shoe-horned in by a team who have no idea what they're doing. That is the biggest problem with people like you, you seem to think it's fine, as proven by your post. > > > > I never said it was fine... Do you not see what I’ve said? The balance choice was stupid. What I’m saying is that this won’t change your play style at all. > > > > > > By claiming we're overreacting, you're stating you're reacting normally, as though everything was fine. The opposite is true, this isn't fine I’m not someone that rages over balance. I wait for results to make an opinion. Currently it’s 3 and a half hours after the balance patch. Nothing is really for sure yet, and to act angry over changes is premature. I expect nothing to really change. Guardian will still be amazing in PvP and WvW. Dragonhunter and Support Firebrand will stay great. The main change is that Condition Firebrand is buffed due to burning on axe buffed, and having the Symbol buffed. Also Hammer buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Arcaedus.7290" said: > While I like that this means support firebrands in competitive game modes are going to actually be killable, this is going to be an enormous hit to all of those harrier's/offence-based firebrand builds. Those builds don't take virtues traitline since they can't, meaning they're stuck with these extremely long cooldowns on their class functions. This is the boat I’m in. I play an off-meta build that used Griever stats and now I’m thinking heavy nerfs to it. I’ll keep an open mind about it, but I may have to change one of my traitlines for something else compensate. That’ll nerf my damage even more though. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Nerfing Time.1495 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Kam.4092" said: > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did, and think it’s not worth responding to. I raid, do CMs, and Fractals. I also talk to the top players in game, and former top players. Where as Guardian is not always the best, it’s still been the best balanced class over GW2’s balance patches. Many agree on this. It has multiple great builds in all game modes, It gets buffed more than nerfed, and the patch today shows this. I don’t really know what else to say to you. I’m someone with experience, and I talk with other experienced players too. The recent nerf to Chrono will probably make Support FB a lot better. I look forward to chats in Discord about the changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You deemed it not worth responding to, because you don't like the point made. Claims of "talking to top players" can pretty much be ignored (especially without evidence). More's the point, your entire argument is irrelevant because you're ok with a nerf being made in PVE based on PVP, seeing as how you think the nerf is fine. > > > > > > > > > > I never claimed it was fine. Also, you can think what you want, I don’t care. It’s players like you that overreact for no reason, then see benchmarks, and see everything is fine. You never take the time to actually evaluate what changes in a balance patch. You come to the forums, throw a fit without thinking, call people names, and just keep refusing to actually stop, slow down, and realize you’re overreacting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is literally no overreacting, when PVE nerfs are shoe-horned in by a team who have no idea what they're doing. That is the biggest problem with people like you, you seem to think it's fine, as proven by your post. > > > > > > I never said it was fine... Do you not see what I’ve said? The balance choice was stupid. What I’m saying is that this won’t change your play style at all. > > > > > > > > > > By claiming we're overreacting, you're stating you're reacting normally, as though everything was fine. The opposite is true, this isn't fine > > I’m not someone that rages over balance. I wait for results to make an opinion. Currently it’s 3 and a half hours after the balance patch. Nothing is really for sure yet, and to act angry over changes is premature. I expect nothing to really change. Guardian will still be amazing in PvP and WvW. Dragonhunter and Support Firebrand will stay great. The main change is that Condition Firebrand is buffed due to burning on axe buffed, and having the Symbol buffed. > > Also Hammer buffs. > The whole "rage"/"being angry" really isn't the case. Pointing out incompetence due to Anet balancing PVE in the case of PVP, that's well worth calling them out over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonewolf Kai.3682 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Alehin.3746" said: > FB is still OP in all gamemodes, stop crying. Meta support build maybe, but off meta dps builds not so much. It’s hard enough making it viable enough. This patch will probably hurt those builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kam.4092 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"TwiceDead.1963" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Its Nerfing Time.1495" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Ragnarox.9601" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Kam.4092" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two tomes were OP. Don’t overreact. Guardian got good buffs overall. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL OP? While mesmers/mirages still oneshotting ppl. Yea good nerf, as I said, time for wow, my class is getting buffed there. While here every patch is constant nerfing and buffing something that will never be used, next balance patch will be buffing signets and spirit weapons again cause anet does have no clue nor anybody plays guardian in their balance kitten team. enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hammer was played in PvP, and we got PvE buffs. Guardian has always been in a good spot game wise, don’t cry over some CD increases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got PVE nerfs, or are you just blind? Mores the fact we got PVE nerfs because of PVP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes don’t solely make a Guardian. The only nerf we got is some extra Tome CD added. I’m not blind, and can read fine. If you think Tomes are all that make Firebrand good, then I guess you need to sit down, and read the wiki. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I say they made the Guardian? So yeah, you ARE blind. I suggest you learn how to build a character and the difference between PVE and PVP and how they should never interact > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judging your overreaction over two nerfed tomes... **Yeah**, it's safe to assume they were carrying your world. I guess it's time to switch to new crutches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't play PVP, only PVE. PVE and PVP should never ever affect one another, nice assumptions kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am a kid, but at least my composure isn't reliant on the CD of two tomes. Carry on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apparently you're a blind kid, with 0 comprehension, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Sit down and let the adults do the talking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Insulting people sure helps your case. /s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Calling people out on stupidity is not insulting. People apparently lack the reading comprehension to understand the problem is that the nerfs were due to PVP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already acknowledged this, and said it was dumb. It still doesn’t change anything for you in PvE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I've pointed out it does, by it's very nature of existence. Hell just look at the post above yours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did, and think it’s not worth responding to. I raid, do CMs, and Fractals. I also talk to the top players in game, and former top players. Where as Guardian is not always the best, it’s still been the best balanced class over GW2’s balance patches. Many agree on this. It has multiple great builds in all game modes, It gets buffed more than nerfed, and the patch today shows this. I don’t really know what else to say to you. I’m someone with experience, and I talk with other experienced players too. The recent nerf to Chrono will probably make Support FB a lot better. I look forward to chats in Discord about the changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You deemed it not worth responding to, because you don't like the point made. Claims of "talking to top players" can pretty much be ignored (especially without evidence). More's the point, your entire argument is irrelevant because you're ok with a nerf being made in PVE based on PVP, seeing as how you think the nerf is fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > I never claimed it was fine. Also, you can think what you want, I don’t care. It’s players like you that overreact for no reason, then see benchmarks, and see everything is fine. You never take the time to actually evaluate what changes in a balance patch. You come to the forums, throw a fit without thinking, call people names, and just keep refusing to actually stop, slow down, and realize you’re overreacting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is literally no overreacting, when PVE nerfs are shoe-horned in by a team who have no idea what they're doing. That is the biggest problem with people like you, you seem to think it's fine, as proven by your post. > > > > > > > > I never said it was fine... Do you not see what I’ve said? The balance choice was stupid. What I’m saying is that this won’t change your play style at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By claiming we're overreacting, you're stating you're reacting normally, as though everything was fine. The opposite is true, this isn't fine > > > > I’m not someone that rages over balance. I wait for results to make an opinion. Currently it’s 3 and a half hours after the balance patch. Nothing is really for sure yet, and to act angry over changes is premature. I expect nothing to really change. Guardian will still be amazing in PvP and WvW. Dragonhunter and Support Firebrand will stay great. The main change is that Condition Firebrand is buffed due to burning on axe buffed, and having the Symbol buffed. > > > > Also Hammer buffs. > > > > The whole "rage"/"being angry" really isn't the case. Pointing out incompetence due to Anet balancing PVE in the case of PVP, that's well worth calling them out over I’m going to bed. Have a good night/day. I don’t really disagree with you over what you say. I’ve just been saying how it won’t change much. I understand your reasoning just from a balancing principle. You can think how you want, and I’ll think my way. I’m tired, bye o/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimator.3589 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 > @"SkyShroud.2865" said: > Guardian mostly used for group fight in WvW thus those tomes too is used for group for most part. Nerfing those tomes means the fight will move to more range battle than melee battle. Here we thought range battle is already too much and they make it clear that range battle is what they want. THIS is the biggest problem. It only encourages pirate ship even more. More time spent with range haze being exchanged waiting for CDs so we can push in for a decisive bomb. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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