RobMonty.3719 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Makes no other sense that Anet is just rotating OP to make gem sales over ego sales. Ahkams Razor....... The hacking in PVP, hmmm, at least 25% of the people are using some sort of hack as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blocki.4931 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Bold claims :+1: No facts :+1: Must be a salty pvp post :+1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMonty.3719 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > Bold claims :+1: > No facts :+1: > Must be a salty pvp post :+1: When i post the proof, the tell me i will be banned for linking 3rd party software lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMonty.3719 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 > @"Blocki.4931" said: > Bold claims :+1: > No facts :+1: > Must be a salty pvp post :+1: Google works just fine and you will find the shiznit easy... I cant post the link, its considered that im trying to promote hackers when i do. Bests... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coro.3176 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Tell ya what, if it's so common, you should be able to play a couple pvp matches and get video of it. Go on. We'll wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 > @"RobMonty.3719" said: > > @"Blocki.4931" said: > > Bold claims :+1: > > No facts :+1: > > Must be a salty pvp post :+1: > > Google works just fine and you will find the shiznit easy... I cant post the link, its considered that im trying to promote hackers when i do. > Bests... Did you just post 2 separate answers to the same post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offence.4726 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I'd say about 1/10 games has a player either on my team or against me, that is performing highly questionable bullshit, when I know it isn't lag. Proof? Well that's hard to retrieve sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmoid.7082 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 > @"offence.4726" said: > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. Rose tint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 > @"offence.4726" said: > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. I remember the folder I used to have on my old PC which I filled with screens of vitriol, rage, hate, and death threats while playing Soldier Turret Engineer back in vanilla because it was bullshit and I loved making people that angry as nothing could really fight against it in any capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abelisk.4527 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 > @"offence.4726" said: > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. Found the dd ele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuya.6495 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 > @"offence.4726" said: > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. So when we used to stack DD eles in a team? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Fear.1624 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 the guys that say nay play guard, mes, necro, engi balance is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 > @"Kuya.6495" said: > > @"offence.4726" said: > > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. > > So when we used to stack DD eles in a team? > > LOL Could we please have @"sephiroth.4217" build a 5 DD (or whatever weapon) ele team and record it in AT I really missed the 5 ele vids, last time I saw that is from @"Cellofrag.4057" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > @"Kuya.6495" said: > > > @"offence.4726" said: > > > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. > > > > So when we used to stack DD eles in a team? > > > > LOL > > Could we please have @"sephiroth.4217" build a 5 DD (or whatever weapon) ele team and record it in AT > > I really missed the 5 ele vids, last time I saw that is from @"Cellofrag.4057" :D All but 1 friend have left the game :disappointed: Win or lose that would be fun but anet put a restriction of 2 classes when partied even for unranked as 3 of us set up identical mesmers with the same illusionary duelist name for trolling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICENIKESHOE.7128 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > > @"Kuya.6495" said: > > > > @"offence.4726" said: > > > > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. > > > > > > So when we used to stack DD eles in a team? > > > > > > LOL > > > > Could we please have @"sephiroth.4217" build a 5 DD (or whatever weapon) ele team and record it in AT > > > > I really missed the 5 ele vids, last time I saw that is from @"Cellofrag.4057" :D > > All but 1 friend have left the game :disappointed: > > Win or lose that would be fun but anet put a restriction of 2 classes when partied even for unranked as 3 of us set up identical mesmers with the same illusionary duelist name for trolling.. > Awww I was wondering if you guys could just bypass it by swapping characters during setup phase in unranked. It is achieveable and nothing illegal, just harder without friends... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwolf.9571 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I probably see only 1% of my games were there is clearly hacking/modding going on. That's just my experience in the range of T2 Gold to T1 Plat. To truly debunk which people are hacking, you need to play each class, and know their strengths and weaknesses. I know I was accused of speed hacking as a weaver, Even though I hot linked all my mobility skills in chat, he still didn't believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroth.4217 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > @"sephiroth.4217" said: > > > @"NICENIKESHOE.7128" said: > > > > @"Kuya.6495" said: > > > > > @"offence.4726" said: > > > > > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. > > > > > > > > So when we used to stack DD eles in a team? > > > > > > > > LOL > > > > > > Could we please have @"sephiroth.4217" build a 5 DD (or whatever weapon) ele team and record it in AT > > > > > > I really missed the 5 ele vids, last time I saw that is from @"Cellofrag.4057" :D > > > > All but 1 friend have left the game :disappointed: > > > > Win or lose that would be fun but anet put a restriction of 2 classes when partied even for unranked as 3 of us set up identical mesmers with the same illusionary duelist name for trolling.. > > > > Awww I was wondering if you guys could just bypass it by swapping characters during setup phase in unranked. > It is achieveable and nothing illegal, just harder without friends... You can wait for map select and switch yea and running these fun troll set ups is a lot harder with randoms yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggityzog.7389 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 > @"offence.4726" said: > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. Gawd yeah before the instant kills from mass condition damage. Funny how "damage over time" became "death in seconds". I miss my core necro tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure The Heartless.3261 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 > @"RobMonty.3719" said: > Ahkams Razor....... Occam's* If you're going to misapply a philosophical principle at least spell it right. Also, there are simpler explanations than "a quarter of the people in PVP are hacking and the game has actively been balanced poorly to sell gems to a specific group of unnamed people". Occam Razoring would pick one of those. Example. 1.) You're bad 2.) Anet is bad at balancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 > @"Sigmoid.7082" said: > > @"offence.4726" said: > > The last time the PvP was remotely good and balanced was back in Vanilla. > > Rose tint. Balance was never really perfect, but in vanilla there was only 1 or 2 broken build at a time, now almost everything has to be broken else it's not viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StabbersTheThird.6053 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 > @"Trevor Boyer.6524" said: > I'd say about 1/10 games has a player either on my team or against me, that is performing highly questionable kitten, when I know it isn't lag. > > Proof? Well that's hard to retrieve sometimes. And to that I say I've been accused of hacking while playing a Reaper with an emphasis on Swiftness and Quickness. Got reported for speed hacking. I've been reported for teleporting around while playing Chronomancer with an emphasis on teleportation resets. Got reported for teleport walking. I've been reported for setting someone to down state while playing Zerker Zerker with an emphasis on instakill from 1200 range. Got reported for state hacking. Anyway just wanted to debunk this stupid hacking thread. As for no balance- I wonder what those new maps, new specs, new runes, new sigils, and multiple splits/number changes to pvp skills were for in pve. Surely nothing ever made its way to pvp. We don't have runes of the mirage, never got Skyhammer or that Djinn place (have they fixed it yet?), and certainly never received a holosmith spec or had Mirage's jaunts ammo changed from 3 in pve to 2 in pvp. Nope. Pvp has been abandoned for 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multicolorhipster.9751 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Balancing was quite good during the HoT times actually, it hasn't been consistently bad, and I don't think in all the time i've played that i've ever seen an actual hacker. Bots and people exploiting broken mechanics; sure, but never an actual hack. It's okay to be angry, but it's best to present your issues in a calm and collected manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Boyer.6524 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 > @"StabbersTheThird.6053" said: > > @"Trevor Boyer.6524" said: > > I'd say about 1/10 games has a player either on my team or against me, that is performing highly questionable kitten, when I know it isn't lag. > > > > Proof? Well that's hard to retrieve sometimes. > > And to that I say I've been accused of hacking while playing a Reaper with an emphasis on Swiftness and Quickness. Got reported for speed hacking. > I've been reported for teleporting around while playing Chronomancer with an emphasis on teleportation resets. Got reported for teleport walking. > I've been reported for setting someone to down state while playing Zerker Zerker with an emphasis on instakill from 1200 range. Got reported for state hacking. > > Anyway just wanted to debunk this stupid hacking thread. As for no balance- I wonder what those new maps, new specs, new runes, new sigils, and multiple splits/number changes to pvp skills were for in pve. Surely nothing ever made its way to pvp. We don't have runes of the mirage, never got Skyhammer or that Djinn place (have they fixed it yet?), and certainly never received a holosmith spec or had Mirage's jaunts ammo changed from 3 in pve to 2 in pvp. Nope. Pvp has been abandoned for 6 years. It's fine to debunk things, but don't go the complete opposite route and act like it isn't happening at all because it is, and plenty of prominent streamers have caught plenty of users using obvious hack programs during serious streams. I've been present in games while it happened actually. I've been around when fairly well known players within the community were caught speedhacking "which is the most frequent cheat people use because it's easy to hide", and I've been around when known players have flat admitted to win trading and sat and had discussions about how they do it, and why. Yes, I'm sure there are 10,000 unfounded "click and report for botting" submissions to Anet each and every day, from novice to intermediately knowledged players who think they might be seeing a hack. But there are many of us who have been playing this, on every class, through every meta, through every patch, for almost the last 7 years now. Players who are this experienced at a game, know it up and down. They know what lag looks like, what is capable of, and what it is not capable of. They know what classes are capable of to the point that they could recite all current patching CDs, activation times, text definitions of skills word for word. If you were to quiz them on previous metas from years past, you'd be surprised at how much they remember about how the game functioned even back then. The point being is that there are extreme veteran hardcore players that can spot a hack immediately with no question as to if it was or was not a hack, because they know the physics and capabilities of this game engine so well. This season, I have honestly seen less hacking than in any previous season. Though I do have to say, I have seen a couple players this season blatantly using speed hack on non stealthing characters "which is a great way to get yourself reported", and I have had to question several other players whom I suspected of short burst speedhacking while either stealthed or coming off of respawn when they know no player is around to see a short burst of speedhack, to rotate just a bit faster. I've played probably about 150-160 games this season in ranked, and there were only 2 that I knew were speedhacking, and only maybe 1 player every 10 games or so that I had to question. Those actually aren't bad numbers compared to previous seasons over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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