Laurencius.9258 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 It's expensive to randomly change servers whenever other players harass me for being a ranger. Does anyone know a server that actually wants rangers for WVW? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 If you are talking about ‘in squads’ you are going to have difficulty anywhere. Now, that’s not to say some commanders have no problems when they are running open tags, but many on most servers will ask for a more specific comp. And in many of their opinions, a ranger offers minimal to the group that some other class/build will be able to do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurencius.9258 Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 So rangers should just keep to ourselves. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Welcome to schrodinger's profession, buddy. The profession that's both overpowered and an absolute waste of a slot. You had better get used to taking criticism. I certainly get called out whenever I bring my ranger into a group fight by the people who know I have a spec'd scourge. ~ Kovu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Gandara will probably take you on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalker.1398 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 If all rangers wanting to play range would just swap to Rev, now that will be very useful in any zerg/squad. But then again most Rangers think they are there to just pew pew and not know the full potential of longbow 5. That skill can so easily clear siege on walls and supply huts if you have the view options set correctly but not many rangers know or do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xterra.6172 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 ranger is perfectly fine in WvW. Blobbing isn't the only way to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 > @"Sleepwalker.1398" said: > and not know the full potential of longbow 5. Not to mention its the only decent way to tag for bags outside of the few you get for deleting targets one-at-a-time. But yeah. 25 might + sic 'em = dead siege in 2-3 barrage volleys. And you don't even need LoS. Stances are not nothing, too. Rangers have a bad rep. ~ Kovu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Agreed, it's not the class so much as the people playing it. Ranger offers a really lazy, low-information way to play and carries people just enough to where they think no improvement is needed beyond pressing 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 > @"Xterra.6172" said: > ranger is perfectly fine in WvW. Blobbing isn't the only way to play. Yes, because playing outside the blob is what he wanted to do. /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skitter.7389 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 When you play in EU you are very welcome on WSR. There is a commander called BEZ who love every Ranger in his squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser.9873 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Rangers get hate for a lot of reasons, but most of it isn't even really the class imo. Much of it is, as Sleepwalker said, the player, not the class. Commanders are so used to Rangers that play........?poorly?, that they automatically have a bad take on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gebrechen.5643 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I like rangers for de-sieging stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick.8967 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 > @"Sleepwalker.1398" said: > If all rangers wanting to play range would just swap to Rev, now that will be very useful in any zerg/squad. > > But then again most Rangers think they are there to just pew pew and not know the full potential of longbow 5. > That skill can so easily clear siege on walls and supply huts if you have the view options set correctly but not many rangers know or do that. > Don't let the secret out! Anet will nerf it or people might actually use it.... And stances can be useful if used well, spec a proper merge (so you gives heals, etc..not pew pew power), be useful scouting and don't turn tail and run at the first sign of trouble (thereby ensuring defeat), learn to position properly, snipe targets (and the right targets), clear siege and don't play pure damage and no defence, and be better than most of the zerglings- and you shouldn't have to take too long to persuade commanders to let you in the squad. But don't expect to keep your place if the squad gets full- you can perform just as well without taking up a space of someone who is on voice comms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 > @"Mini Crinny.6190" said: > Gandara will probably take you on You misspelled "gankdara" > @"Baldrick.8967" said: > > @"Sleepwalker.1398" said: > > If all rangers wanting to play range would just swap to Rev, now that will be very useful in any zerg/squad. > > > > But then again most Rangers think they are there to just pew pew and not know the full potential of longbow 5. > > That skill can so easily clear siege on walls and supply huts if you have the view options set correctly but not many rangers know or do that. > > > > Don't let the secret out! Anet will nerf it or people might actually use it.... > > And stances can be useful if used well, spec a proper merge (so you gives heals, etc..not pew pew power), be useful scouting and don't turn tail and run at the first sign of trouble (thereby ensuring defeat), learn to position properly, snipe targets (and the right targets), clear siege and don't play pure damage and no defence, and be better than most of the zerglings- and you shouldn't have to take too long to persuade commanders to let you in the squad. > > But don't expect to keep your place if the squad gets full- you can perform just as well without taking up a space of someone who is on voice comms. With right target you mean the enemy commander? :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonNeonite.1048 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Rangers are a strong small scale roaming class, just like Thieves. They shouldn't demand to be in pug squads, who are just looking for fights in the first place, because meta classes: like FBs, Scourges, Revs, SPbs and a few Eles, with proper builds, perform and synergize better in those squads. For some reason Deso, allows this one healing tempest to tag along though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 > @"CrimsonNeonite.1048" said: > Rangers are a small scale roaming class, just like Thieves. They shouldn't demand to be in squads, who are just looking for fights, in the first place, because meta classes with proper builds, perform and synergize better. > > For some reason Deso, allows this one healing tempest to tag along though.. Not true after the recent changes. I've been seeing more and more soulbeasts being used in guild comps. Perhaps pug squads have not caught wind of that trend yet or perhaps only organised guilds can pull it off. Video here near the end showing a guild comp running at least 2 soulbeasts out of the roughly 10 players that they had. So 1 soulbeast per party of 5? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCJB-1ZAB8M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo.6819 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 > @"Skitter.7389" said: > When you play in EU you are very welcome on WSR. There is a commander called BEZ who love every Ranger in his squad. He kinda disagree in Ranger, unless you are very good with it. there is always respect for one trick pony :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesacon.8735 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Rangers are great for roaming, but if you camp longbow in a zerg on zerg fight, enough comps run reflects that you will do more harm than good. Druid camping staff and a swap to longbow can be really good in zergs. Firebrand is _better_, but I find it hard to believe people would get upset over druid support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProverbsofHell.2307 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I suggest you try and find a roaming guild to join. Then you can have some ranger friends to be with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeknar.6184 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 > @"Sleepwalker.1398" said: > If all rangers wanting to play range would just swap to Rev, now that will be very useful in any zerg/squad. > > But then again most Rangers think they are there to just pew pew and not know the full potential of longbow 5. > That skill can so easily clear siege on walls and supply huts if you have the view options set correctly but not many rangers know or do that. > Oh, you mean like a Staff Ele can do with Meteor Shower while contributing more to a zerg fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazzarr.1349 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 > @"Laurencius.9258" said: > It's expensive to randomly change servers whenever other players harass me for being a ranger. Does anyone know a server that actually wants rangers for WVW? Thanks in advance! You want a place where rangers aren't scorned? Especially soulbeasts? Come to SoS.. oh wait we're full! :( But you could come to the linked server, (currently SoR). People that scorn rangers with zergs have a faulty way of thinking. Yes I agree that if all you want is to go out and fight in the field forever then you don't want a big squad of rangers... but they DO (at least mine does) a huge amount of damage to a lot of people at once (despite what non ranger players say), and cleaving downs is a great function from the outside of the fight. I also have a decent amount of survivability.... when I'm not targeted that is! lol People see Platinum and above and love to mob them for some reason. Let's move to the other parts of WvW. Believe it or not WvW is not all about the fights. We actually capture towers and Keeps. Inside these structures is siege, and even with the nasty changes ANet has done to make it harder to 'see' over the wall I can still take down siege that's hitting our group. Add a few more rangers and siege doesn't last more than a minute or two. We are able to get in quicker and alive. Remove all the rangers and try to rely on an ele or two and tell me how well that goes. Ele's can't range like rangers can, they can't fire into a group and hit 5 targets at once and so on... and they can't put out the sustained damage that my ranger can. If you're good at ranger then nobody I know on my server is going to deny you entry into a squad. Look me up in game and we can chat more if you are serious. Move to SoR then if SoS ever opens you can move here. :) My ign: Tim Pearces Hearts aka balthazzarr.1349 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazzarr.1349 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 > @"Hesacon.8735" said: > Rangers are great for roaming, but if you camp longbow in a zerg on zerg fight, enough comps run reflects that you will do more harm than good. > > Druid camping staff and a swap to longbow can be really good in zergs. Firebrand is _better_, but I find it hard to believe people would get upset over druid support. I run soulbeast almost exclusively. Now and then I switch to spellbreaker or mesmer for variety. But.... all this talk about reflects is sooooo highly overrated. In all the years I've been running ranger up to and including now I probably encounter reflect to my longbow maybe once a week if at all... and THAT is when I'm fighting roamers.. not zergs. Why? Because I'm patient.. I never hit first. I wait for the group to attack, I watch for the enemy to be grouping toward a location, then I power up the buffs (increasing to 90-100% crit chance and over 240% crit damage and 3k power).. and pound the spot. Typically I see at least 3-5 people downed by the time the barrage is done. Then I start cleaving. If you play it right, you ARE very helpful. No I don't do healing, no I don't clear condi... I am purely a dps beast that knows how to play with a zerg and the groups I run with have no problem with me doing what I do. AND of course, I clear wall siege like nobody's business... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderzShadow.2506 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 > @"CrimsonNeonite.1048" said: > Rangers are a strong small scale roaming class, just like Thieves. > They shouldn't demand to be in pug squads, who are just looking for fights in the first place, because meta classes: like FBs, Scourges, Revs, SPbs and a few Eles, with proper builds, perform and synergize better in those squads. > > For some reason Deso, allows this one healing tempest to tag along though.. I get that, but explain to me-- and I really mean explain and not argue... explain to me how that is fun. I just don't get it. I want to understand... Two groups of Like Minded Individuals fighting open field with the same exact set of tools same classes same mindset I like WvW but I just don't understand how that is enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderzShadow.2506 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 also to the OP you can run whatever you want to run. You can tag along. No ones stopping you from doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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