X T D.6458 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just a random idea I had recently...taking some inspiration from the incredibly popular games Apex Legends and Fortnite, I got curious if something like this could be implemented in GW2. I think EoTM would be a perfect place for this type of content. For those that are unaware of this type of gameplay, you have a bunch of small teams fight to be the last one standing on a map that continously gets smaller and smaller. Here are some ideas -Premade/Random teams of 3 people. 20 teams per map, new instances are only created when there are enough teams to start a match. -Remove all objectives and siege. Replace them with simple capture points. Points are awarded for capturing and hold points in intervals of 2 minutes. - Capture points can be upgraded the longer they are held but will only allow for simple offensive/defensive weapons like a turret or barricade to keep gameplay fast. - Players are automatically eliminated after 3 deaths. If an entire team is dead at the same time, that team is eliminated automatically. - Points are awarded for capturing, holding, and killing/reviving players. - Matches can be set for 20 minutes Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Love the overall idea. Some thoughts: I would prefer if a death means instant elimination for that player. No revive allowed if fully killed. I would also prefer if there is no capture point system which would make it just a larger scale PvP. It should purely be a death match between teams. Hell in a cell. Last man standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xterra.6172 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 honestly i think the map is great for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"Xterra.6172" said: > honestly i think the map is great for it. Agreed. Its a great idea and a great map. Map is big enough so they don't all bump into each other from the start. Small skirmishes between a couple of teams here and there. Lots of kiting potential and ambush points. Lots of oops you got knocked off the bridge moments. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Weird my same suggestion for this from a few days ago seems to have disappeared.. Edit: my eyes were playing tricks on me.. https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/827554/#Comment_827554 > @"XenesisII.1540" said: > Obviously the announcement is going to be they're adding a Battle Royale mode to wvw, it's the new bandwagon these days. > > Eotm map will be converted to support this change. > It will not be blue green red sides, all gates will be removed. > It will not have scoring, and chests will be randomly placed around areas of interest, these chests will provide for you a random weapon for your class or an armor piece of the blue green yellow qualities, you can also loot player corpses and hope they have armor for your class type. The keep may have some extra goodies. > Games will comprise of 15 teams of either 3 or 5 player groups, who will spawn in randomly at the 4 front points of interest in each side and the 3 towers, not the keeps or supply areas. > If you solo queue, you will given a random blue item to begin with when the match starts. > Banners will be placed around the middle area to display the current kill leader and mug shots of their team, you can buy additional poses in the black lion shop, chair poses are also usable, outfits and black lion weapons would also look super cool here wink wink twitchy wink. > The area will shrink 2 times every 5 mins down to the small middle area of the map, first to the outer tower ring, then down to the supply depot ring. > The winning team will spawn in lion's arch so they can immediately brag about it in general chat, plus awarded 1 gold, and you can also earn pips while in the battle royale. > Also a 2 gold entry fee, have to keep the wvw cost to reward tradition intact. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Oh and the shrinking of map technology which is already available in the new PvP 1 vs 1 maps when applied to the EOTM map, will force teams to have to move towards the center of the map in order to avoid getting caught by the encroaching death rays. The match itself probably doesn't need a 20 minutes timer, but the encircling death rays that force teams towards the middle of the map could start after 20 mins. Eventually there will be a winner when they are all forced into the middle of the map while the death rays bear down on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovu.7560 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 So basically fast paced large scale pvp? Nothing wrong with that. A solid idea for a beautiful map that doesn't really see any love. ~ Kovu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyOrion.9506 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 If I remember right, the launch of GW2 Beta ended with a "Hunger Games" like event. Would be interesting. Although I would say a different format than Edge of the Mist, because Edge of the Mist is still a perfect zone for teaching assault or defense of tower/garrison locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. Which do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > Which do you want? Way three: It's fun, moderately visited by players and adds another gamemode to the already existing WvW. People play both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > > > Which do you want? > > Way three: It's fun, moderately visited by players and adds another gamemode to the already existing WvW. People play both. Yeah cause wvw populations need another mode to split the already dwindling playerbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > > > > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > > > > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > > > > > Which do you want? > > > > Way three: It's fun, moderately visited by players and adds another gamemode to the already existing WvW. People play both. > > Yeah cause wvw populations need another mode to split the already dwindling playerbase. Personally I think if the mode is implemented successfully, we can do away with PvP and let all the PvP crowd play in this new map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > > > > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > > > > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > > > > > Which do you want? > > > > Way three: It's fun, moderately visited by players and adds another gamemode to the already existing WvW. People play both. > > Yeah cause wvw populations need another mode to split the already dwindling playerbase. So you're saying we shouldn't change anything at all and just let the dwindling playerbase dwindle even more and finally die? Changes are sometimes needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshhh.2076 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Teams of 3 sounds more likely to appeal to PvP players than WvW players so I can't see it impacting numbers in WvW *that* much. Its a nice idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltekka.2375 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > > > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > > > > > > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > > > > > > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > > > > > > > Which do you want? > > > > > > Way three: It's fun, moderately visited by players and adds another gamemode to the already existing WvW. People play both. > > > > Yeah cause wvw populations need another mode to split the already dwindling playerbase. > > So you're saying we shouldn't change anything at all and just let the dwindling playerbase dwindle even more and finally die? Changes are sometimes needed. You either dont know why wvw is dying, or you dont care. Either way, this could be something for pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joneirikb.7506 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > > > > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > > > > > > > > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > > > > > > > > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > > > > > > > > > Which do you want? > > > > > > > > Way three: It's fun, moderately visited by players and adds another gamemode to the already existing WvW. People play both. > > > > > > Yeah cause wvw populations need another mode to split the already dwindling playerbase. > > > > So you're saying we shouldn't change anything at all and just let the dwindling playerbase dwindle even more and finally die? Changes are sometimes needed. > > You either dont know why wvw is dying, or you dont care. Either way, this could be something for pvp. Personally I think this sounds like something so different from the existing WvW, more like a roaming free-for-all map, than anything that would contest main WvW for zergs and stuff. So I don't really see how it would impact it much at all ? You might get a few less roamers, which is a dying breed anyways, because WvW is so horribly bad for roaming these days. Personally think they could make an alteration of the EotM map instead of replacing it entirely, you could always run them next to each others. Interesting idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schloumou.3982 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I like it alot. You could allow premade teams, offer some prestige rewards and you might even end up attracting more hardcore players. The closing zones should keep the more cheesy mobility and stealth abusers in check. But I think they shouldnt take to long to close, so a match doesnt take longer than half an hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X T D.6458 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"EremiteAngel.9765" said: > Love the overall idea. > > Some thoughts: > I would prefer if a death means instant elimination for that player. > No revive allowed if fully killed. > I would also prefer if there is no capture point system which would make it just a larger scale PvP. > It should purely be a death match between teams. > Hell in a cell. > Last man standing. There are a few reasons why you dont want to eliminate a player for one death. Players might become hesitant to engage other players and giving extra chances allows for better teamplay and coordination. > @"EremiteAngel.9765" said: > Oh and the shrinking of map technology which is already available in the new PvP 1 vs 1 maps when applied to the EOTM map, will force teams to have to move towards the center of the map in order to avoid getting caught by the encroaching death rays. > The match itself probably doesn't need a 20 minutes timer, but the encircling death rays that force teams towards the middle of the map could start after 20 mins. > Eventually there will be a winner when they are all forced into the middle of the map while the death rays bear down on them. The 20 minutes is just a random number, it can really be any amount in that range. > @"Kovu.7560" said: > So basically fast paced large scale pvp? > Nothing wrong with that. A solid idea for a beautiful map that doesn't really see any love. > > ~ Kovu Yes exactly, very simple concept and this map just seems perfect for it. > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > Which do you want? I think this would mostly appeal to PvP'ers and those WvW'ers who like small team fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X T D.6458 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"joneirikb.7506" said: > > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > > > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > > > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > > > > > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > > > > > > > > > > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > > > > > > > > > > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Which do you want? > > > > > > > > > > Way three: It's fun, moderately visited by players and adds another gamemode to the already existing WvW. People play both. > > > > > > > > Yeah cause wvw populations need another mode to split the already dwindling playerbase. > > > > > > So you're saying we shouldn't change anything at all and just let the dwindling playerbase dwindle even more and finally die? Changes are sometimes needed. > > > > You either dont know why wvw is dying, or you dont care. Either way, this could be something for pvp. > > Personally I think this sounds like something so different from the existing WvW, more like a roaming free-for-all map, than anything that would contest main WvW for zergs and stuff. So I don't really see how it would impact it much at all ? You might get a few less roamers, which is a dying breed anyways, because WvW is so horribly bad for roaming these days. > > Personally think they could make an alteration of the EotM map instead of replacing it entirely, you could always run them next to each others. Interesting idea. I love my roamers, but damn I hate seeing them getting run over by zergs. I can understand the frustration felt by players who prefer that kind of playstyle who either cant escape the blobs or cant find fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raknar.4735 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > @"Voltekka.2375" said: > > > > @"Raknar.4735" said: > > > > > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > > > > So basicly, there are two possible ways this could end: > > > > > > > > > > - It's bad. No one plays it. The implementation is crummy. It was pointless for Anet to spend time on it that was desperately needed for WvW. > > > > > > > > > > - It's good. Everyone plays it. Anet commit 100% to it. WvW dies. > > > > > > > > > > Which do you want? > > > > > > > > Way three: It's fun, moderately visited by players and adds another gamemode to the already existing WvW. People play both. > > > > > > Yeah cause wvw populations need another mode to split the already dwindling playerbase. > > > > So you're saying we shouldn't change anything at all and just let the dwindling playerbase dwindle even more and finally die? Changes are sometimes needed. > > You either dont know why wvw is dying, or you dont care. Either way, this could be something for pvp. I honestly don't know what you want from me. It doesn't matter if you implement it as a WvW mode or a PvP mode, the players that want to play that mode will play it and leave / spent less time in their previous mode. It's obvious WvW is dying because there are no updates / changes to make it more appealing for more players, so I think this BR/ Hunger games-esque mode could help. As it seems you don't want any changes to WvW, guess you just don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safandula.8723 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Actually this game mode would also attract ppl from pvp, since its more competitive than wvw. Player base could increase. But idea is rly nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawHat.2639 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 If you could have different instances of 3 man teams / 5 man teams / 10 man teams also. I always liked roaming with the guildies in Eotm when WvW was dead or just tired of being blobbed chased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrimm.5624 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Not opposed but would prefer that if we can't get a new map in WvW, then bring EoTM and replace the Blue ABL with it. Gives players more options and meets some of the requests for more choices of battlefields we play on. Doesn't mean this map couldn't also be used for the people suggesting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straegen.2938 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I would love a simple open world PvP on any PvE map. Nothing fancy... you see it, it is fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetoII.3782 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 By the time they implimented it, Battle Royale would be yesterday's fad... Just like southsun survival. Let's _set_ trends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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