Lurana.7506 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Now that we are on the brink of a new story ark, one question in particular is roaming inside my head. What about the Order of Shadows? Many theories that said the Order betrays us and cannot be trusted proofed to be wrong. At least if we are arguing that they never betrayed us or turned out to be enemies. But I wonder how much they really conspired against us without us noticing. And if we ever get more information about them. The Order was built up as a future enemy throughout the PoF story. I just mention the collection in the Desolation (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Order_of_Whispers_Mission_Dispatches) and the dead Whispers agent. I think it's a bit unsatisfactory if we never hear something from them again. Especially because my main is a member of the Order of Whispers, I would like some sort of consequence for this whole built up. But now it seems like noone in the Order of Whispers cares much about their dead agent or about the things u can find out in the Desolation. What are your thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 This might get better traction in the GW2 Lore forum? [https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/categories/lore](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/categories/lore "https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/categories/lore") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 This might get better traction in the GW2 Lore forum? [https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/categories/lore](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/categories/lore "https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/categories/lore") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konig Des Todes.2086 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 The shadiness of the Order of Shadows, as well as the hints of an "Elonian Order of Whispers" in Kourna, seem to be completely dropped arcs that the LW team either were unaware of, or decided weren't important or interesting enough to continue with. This is far from the first time it's happened. All things considered, the Order of Shadows aren't interested in things beyond Elona, so I cannot see them becoming a continued part of the plot unless we return to Elona. Similar to Zaeim - it's unlikely we'll hear from him again, unless we return to Elona for some reason. But since the majority of Elona maps are locked behind a specific S4 episode, and has a very specific map story to it, with not all that much space for new maps, it doesn't seem very likely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugrakarma.9416 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 for me this arc didn't promise much, thankfully they abandoned it. Order of Shadows seems very less militarized than order of whispers, and less technologically advanced than the other orders/groups, Order of Shadows was more a "spy ring" in a strict sense. With commander becoming a 'hero of elona' with even the sunspers on his side, would become a suicidal move antagonize him, even worse, the commander was bringin more and more "alien" factions to elona, like the Pact, it will be terminating in order of shadows versus everyone............ the only way that arc can thrive was if the arc of commander's being a unifying figure in elona was dropped and the war against joko paused or extended in more chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Well, with Joko gone, the Order of Shadows has less to do. There seems like a lot of Elonian factions left to rebuild Elona. Maybe the OoS will show up again in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig. Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 The Order of Shadows was never our ally. It used the commander to put Kossan on the throne. From the dispatches and the overall 'support' we get it is pretty obvious they had no really strong feelings about replacing Joko, having enough power playing all sides - but when it was clear that we would not stop until Joko was down, they made sure, their man would be the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmetOtter.8542 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 > @"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said: > The Order of Shadows was never our ally. It used the commander to put Kossan on the throne. > > From the dispatches and the overall 'support' we get it is pretty obvious they had no really strong feelings about replacing Joko, having enough power playing all sides - but when it was clear that we would not stop until Joko was down, they made sure, their man would be the winner. I absolutely love that explanation. No idea if it's correct, but the manipulation and political opportunism is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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