Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Revenants draw memories and energy from legends through the Mist which records all of time. So I dont see why Revenants cant get some Ventari fighter skills when Tablet is not out. Thats skills 7, 8, 9, 0 that are blank when Tablet is not out. These skills could be some kind of throw back to younger Ventari when he was a fighter. Could give Revenant new skills that make Ventari Legend more synergize with other legends and builds. Whats your thoughts on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > Revenants draw memories and energy from legends through the Mist which records all of time. > So I dont see why Revenants cant get some Ventari fighter skills when Tablet is not out. Thats skills 7, 8, 9, 0 that are blank when Tablet is not out. > These skills could be some kind of throw back to younger Ventari when he was a fighter. Could give Revenant new skills that make Ventari Legend more synergize with other legends and builds. > > Whats your thoughts on this You have weapons. You don’t need anymore synergy than that. Use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > Revenants draw memories and energy from legends through the Mist which records all of time. > > So I dont see why Revenants cant get some Ventari fighter skills when Tablet is not out. Thats skills 7, 8, 9, 0 that are blank when Tablet is not out. > > These skills could be some kind of throw back to younger Ventari when he was a fighter. Could give Revenant new skills that make Ventari Legend more synergize with other legends and builds. > > > > Whats your thoughts on this > > You have weapons. You don’t need anymore synergy than that. Use them. legends arent weapon skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Swagger.1459" said: > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? what "role" is Dwarf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > what "role" is Dwarf? defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 If you’re not sure then look it up yourself and learn about the class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"derd.6413" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > defense How so? explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > defense > > How so? explain Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > defense > > > > How so? explain > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > > > defense > > > > > > How so? explain > > > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant > > I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself I linked that so you can learn more about it. Just read it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > > > > > defense > > > > > > > > How so? explain > > > > > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant > > > > I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself > > I linked that so you can learn more about it. Just read it I know Revenant very well. Again answer my question Swag, how is Dwarf's role "Defense".... why cant you just explain yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger.1459 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > > > > > > > defense > > > > > > > > > > How so? explain > > > > > > > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself > > > > I linked that so you can learn more about it. Just read it > > I know Revenant very well. Again answer my question Swag, how is Dwarf's role "Defense".... why cant you just explain yourself? Why are you unwilling to read up on rev? It’s all there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric.4713 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Another gem of a thread by Knighthonor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 > @"Elric.4713" said: > Another gem of a thread by Knighthonor. thanks. I am self suspending myself from the boards here. So wanted to get my last ideas and discussions put out there before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > > > > > > > defense > > > > > > > > > > How so? explain > > > > > > > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself > > > > I linked that so you can learn more about it. Just read it > > I know Revenant very well. Again answer my question Swag, how is Dwarf's role "Defense".... why cant you just explain yourself? Perhaps you should explain to him/her why Dwarf isn't for defense then you may get your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Technically speaking, all of the weapon skills are all linked to a legend, so the more offensive staff skills show Ventari's warrior side. Surge of the Mists might even be a manifestation of centaur trample. Ultimately, though, Ventari's biggest impact was his posthumous impact on the sylvari, not anything he did when he was just another centaur soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knighthonor.4061 Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 > @"Ultramex.1506" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defense > > > > > > > > > > > > How so? explain > > > > > > > > > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant > > > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself > > > > > > I linked that so you can learn more about it. Just read it > > > > I know Revenant very well. Again answer my question Swag, how is Dwarf's role "Defense".... why cant you just explain yourself? > > Perhaps you should explain to him/her why Dwarf isn't for defense then you may get your answer. Hey he the person that said Dwarf was defense role. It's up to Swag to explain that. Define what makes one legend defense or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramex.1506 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"Ultramex.1506" said: > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defense > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How so? explain > > > > > > > > > > > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant > > > > > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself > > > > > > > > I linked that so you can learn more about it. Just read it > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Again answer my question Swag, how is Dwarf's role "Defense".... why cant you just explain yourself? > > > > Perhaps you should explain to him/her why Dwarf isn't for defense then you may get your answer. > > Hey he the person that said Dwarf was defense role. It's up to Swag to explain that. Define what makes one legend defense or not. And then he tells you to read wiki, this is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosleepdemon.1368 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"Ultramex.1506" said: > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defense > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How so? explain > > > > > > > > > > > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant > > > > > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself > > > > > > > > I linked that so you can learn more about it. Just read it > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Again answer my question Swag, how is Dwarf's role "Defense".... why cant you just explain yourself? > > > > Perhaps you should explain to him/her why Dwarf isn't for defense then you may get your answer. > > Hey he the person that said Dwarf was defense role. It's up to Swag to explain that. Define what makes one legend defense or not. Perhaps because all but one of his skills are about control and... Gee. I don't know, defence? How about you explain why you are unwilling to accept the rather obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 It's pretty clear that the role of dwarf is intended to be the tank legend. Whether it actually _succeeds_ at this is open for interpretation - the general consensus seems to be "no" or at least "not enough" - but that is the intent. Ventari is the healer, Jalis is the tank, Shiro is the mobile DPS, and Mallyx is the condition specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katary.7096 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Revenants are invoking legends from the past. The important part is that they are summoning power from figures at the moment/ after they became legendary. Which is why we see them invoking a version of Glint, which wasn't an elder dragon servant or a stone dwarf Jalis instead of the flesh and blood version. Before his pacifist days Ventari wasn't a legend, hence Revenants can not draw power from that version of him. Or go with the gameplay explanation: Each legend has a niche, Ventari's is healing and defensive support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneQR.7412 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > defense > > How so? explain I wouldn't call it defense. Rather bruiser. It's its role but needs better mechanics. Ventari has a good place IMO. The tablet destruction should be removed though and just teleport it back to you, add a stunbreak on the cleanse skill and the spec would be golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draxynnic.3719 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 > @"InsaneQR.7412" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > defense > > > > How so? explain > > I wouldn't call it defense. Rather bruiser. It's its role but needs better mechanics. > > Ventari has a good place IMO. The tablet destruction should be removed though and just teleport it back to you, add a stunbreak on the cleanse skill and the spec would be golden. Or just make the tablet resummon/reform on your location automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 > @"nosleepdemon.1368" said: > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > @"Ultramex.1506" said: > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > > @"derd.6413" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Swagger.1459" said: > > > > > > > > > > > Legends are for roles. Ventari is the healer role. Go use another legend for your damage role. Or do you not understand the purpose behind roles? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what "role" is Dwarf? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defense > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How so? explain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gw2 has a very handy wiki to help you learn about classes and roles. Here ya go! https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revenant > > > > > > > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Now answer my question Swag. How is Dwarf 's role "Defense"... explain yourself > > > > > > > > > > I linked that so you can learn more about it. Just read it > > > > > > > > I know Revenant very well. Again answer my question Swag, how is Dwarf's role "Defense".... why cant you just explain yourself? > > > > > > Perhaps you should explain to him/her why Dwarf isn't for defense then you may get your answer. > > > > Hey he the person that said Dwarf was defense role. It's up to Swag to explain that. Define what makes one legend defense or not. > > Perhaps because all but one of his skills are about control and... Gee. I don't know, defence? > > How about you explain why you are unwilling to accept the rather obvious. Dwarf hammer are great cause they have destructive hammer power, taunt for called spikes, stability carpet that can do damage, and an elite that is just the best damage reducer in game by 50%. The spinning hammmers are its bruiser mode, since they do damage and heal the caster as well provide damage reduction. They’re job is team defense as much target damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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