neoteo.3975 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Less health (dps sponge) but more mechanics. Majority of players will agree. Also the combat system should expecially be more effective when players combine skills, is true skills already have big descriptions, would be nice some kind of visual indication on how to combine different professions skills to more effectively win. For a new player is hard to understand what all those terms mean and how to combine them. I suggest using some icon language especially for combination of skills across professions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Are the changes going to land in today's patch, alongside the mechanical 'fixes'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaaaa Name.2904 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 If your waiting to get ascended drops to get armor/weapons your doing it wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 > @"NorthernRedStar.3054" said: > Are the changes going to land in today's patch, alongside the mechanical 'fixes'? The change are in, but so far all it has done is made he fight even easier unless their "changes" didn't go to plan Doesn't hit any harder, health is a bit lower, champs are marginally harder, cc bar drops near instantly. Disappointing they didnt take more time to actually make a better fight or do a single thing to counter the visual noise that obscures any tells or attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 What are the revised rewards like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 > @"Pifil.5193" said: > What are the revised rewards like? It's just the same as before. Might be a few more quantities of the same stuff, although I never really counted what I got prior. If anyone got the ascended weapon, they didn't post it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > What are the revised rewards like? > > It's just the same as before. Might be a few more quantities of the same stuff, although I never really counted what I got prior. If anyone got the ascended weapon, they didn't post it Oh, that's a disappointment although not a surprise. I thought they were going to improve stuff, not just add a very low chance of an ascended weapon. Oh well, thanks Randulf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Yep, same terrible rewards as before. I'm truly baffled how they can consider this repeatable content when it (like the other meta in Bjora's March) is just a waste of the player's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoteo.3975 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 > @"Pifil.5193" said: > Yep, same terrible rewards as before. I'm truly baffled how they can consider this repeatable content when it (like the other meta in Bjora's March) is just a waste of the player's time. If its a waste of time don't do it, this is a game, go work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandiarie.7195 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 This fight took 20 mins before the patch at least and now it feels longer. It also fails a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I did it post patch and we were close to failure. Of course you have people not getting in the green circle despite my pinging it in squad chat. Also had a spellbreaker using winds of disenchantment on the champion, when I commented "this is not WvW and there's no boons on it either" the person said to let them have their fun doing 0 DPS. Apparently some players enjoy wasting everyone's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 >With greater risks come greater rewards. what risk ? there is absolutely no risk - if map not 100% you can be sure that it is fails 100% after 11 Feb. patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 > @"neoteo.3975" said: > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > Yep, same terrible rewards as before. I'm truly baffled how they can consider this repeatable content when it (like the other meta in Bjora's March) is just a waste of the player's time. > > If its a waste of time don't do it, this is a game, go work Yeah, I have all the achievements so I won't bother anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBullWings.2734 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 noticed some new stuff but barely anything that could be called "new mechanics". at least you have a reason to stay inside jhavi's shield now, but it doesn't solve the problem of those not going into a raven portal getting bored beyond belief. boss is still way too repetitive, sad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Bandit.3786 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 - Missed falling ice orbs will now have greater consequences for any players who did not participate in absorbing their effects. Ow goodie.... So not doing those mechanics gets you punished, however doing it will get you killed. Nice choice! Good Going! Kick out any glass class... Wonderful! Woot! /sarcasm off Heavily dissapointed. Let me say it once more: When I stand in those green circles with my Glass deadeye build, You put SO MUCH AoE on those, that I instantly die... So you now wanna PUNISH me for NOT doing that? What is the trade-off? Less AoE on those? Nope, I tried... died instantly. So to recap You succesfully made this fight impossible for some type of Builds. Again, for the VERY LAST time: It is not that I do not WANT to try to get to the green circles... It is that I INSTANTLY DIE due to your EXCESSIVE use of heavy AoE around and on TOP of those falling Ice Orbs that I can NOT go to those shards. You made SURE that the survivability for some Build Styles is ZERO!!!!!!! I see the abuse in chat coming from miles away.... Wow... Just Wow.... The ignorance. And before anyone comments that I can play it on another build/class... Are you FREAKING KIDDING ME?!?!?! World Bosses should NOT be limited to just a few Classes or Builds!!!! And yet that is EXACTLY TO THE LETTER what ArenaNet did here... Anyone see this coming? "Get to the shards, you ..., learn the mechanics!" "Sorry, this build will insta-die on those" "Get on a Meta Build or get out, you...." I have my screenshot finger and abuse report ready to go, because these are GARUANTEED to come now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donari.5237 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Not everyone has to get in the green circles, Tuna Bandit. I thought they did but after I did Drakkar yesterday I realized that as long as *someone* is in them they don't send out the ice wave to hit everyone else. You can do your bit by keeping up the dps on the foot while a few others hop into the green. Hence the dev comment in one of these threads about people getting to feel like heroes for being the ones in the circle. (I myself didn't realize those things did any damage at all, since I've been in them on my tanky Reaper and taken no harm, so I've learned something here). I hope that helps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Fire Attunement.9835 Posted February 12, 2020 Author ArenaNet Staff Share Posted February 12, 2020 > @"Pifil.5193" said: > Yep, same terrible rewards as before. I'm truly baffled how they can consider this repeatable content when it (like the other meta in Bjora's March) is just a waste of the player's time. A note that while the rewards may not all be to your taste, they are not the same. Rewards were updated Tuesday to add an ascended weapon set, an exotic weapon set, and the [Winter's Heart Infusion](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winter%27s_Heart_Infusion). > @"Tuna Bandit.3786" said: > > I have my screenshot finger and abuse report ready to go, Please do report abusive behavior in game if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 > @"Fire Attunement.9835" said: > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > Yep, same terrible rewards as before. I'm truly baffled how they can consider this repeatable content when it (like the other meta in Bjora's March) is just a waste of the player's time. > > A note that while the rewards may not all be to your taste, they are not the same. Rewards were updated Tuesday to add an ascended weapon set, an exotic weapon set, and the [Winter's Heart Infusion](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winter%27s_Heart_Infusion). > > > > @"Tuna Bandit.3786" said: > > > > > I have my screenshot finger and abuse report ready to go, > > Please do report abusive behavior in game if it happens. > I think what Pifil refers to is the precedent for incredibly low chances at a unique drop - an issue which had plagued the game since launch. New rewards are only a positive factor if they “feel” obtainable. There is a strong argument they are not whilst rng remains the exclusive method of getting them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisaria.8136 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I understand a lot of the comments about mechanics, fail rates, length of meta, etc (even if I don't agree with all of them), but I really don't get the reward complaints. Especially since eternal ice can be flipped for LWS4 currency/VM, I don't see how the Bjora metas pay out any less than the beloved metas elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante.1763 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 > @"Fire Attunement.9835" said: > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > Yep, same terrible rewards as before. I'm truly baffled how they can consider this repeatable content when it (like the other meta in Bjora's March) is just a waste of the player's time. > > A note that while the rewards may not all be to your taste, they are not the same. Rewards were updated Tuesday to add an ascended weapon set, an exotic weapon set, and the [Winter's Heart Infusion](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winter%27s_Heart_Infusion). > > > > @"Tuna Bandit.3786" said: > > > > > I have my screenshot finger and abuse report ready to go, > > Please do report abusive behavior in game if it happens. > The issue is the low drop rate, not what rewards are available. I as a player have not gotten any of the super rare drops in this game from events (infusions) Ive gotten now 6 Tequatl Weapons since it was added, and the only Scion weapon i obtained was the guaranteed one(why only one guaranteed?) at 1000 Opens, Ive never seen a Triple Trouble ascended drop, and despite opening the Khan Ur Chest every day with a once a week exception have never gotten the Khan Urs Helmet. In 7 years of playing i have never gotten a precursor drop from anything but the mystic forge and that was a waste of time and gold As an opinion, i find it terrible that it is faster for me to work a few extra hours IRL and convert gems to gold to get the items i want, because otherwise i will -never- see those drops in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisaria.8136 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Now that is a very valid complaint. It's true that there is no satisfaction from just having to pray for impossible drops. They dont even feel earned once you get them. The best items I have, and those I show off with the most pride, I worked for and felt like something achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > @"Fire Attunement.9835" said: > > > @"Pifil.5193" said: > > > Yep, same terrible rewards as before. I'm truly baffled how they can consider this repeatable content when it (like the other meta in Bjora's March) is just a waste of the player's time. > > > > A note that while the rewards may not all be to your taste, they are not the same. Rewards were updated Tuesday to add an ascended weapon set, an exotic weapon set, and the [Winter's Heart Infusion](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Winter%27s_Heart_Infusion). > > > > > > > @"Tuna Bandit.3786" said: > > > > > > > > I have my screenshot finger and abuse report ready to go, > > > > Please do report abusive behavior in game if it happens. > > > > I think what Pifil refers to is the precedent for incredibly low chances at a unique drop - an issue which had plagued the game since launch. New rewards are only a positive factor if they “feel” obtainable. There is a strong argument they are not whilst rng remains the exclusive method of getting them That's exactly it. I'm talking about the _actual_ rewards you get for the meta not the _potential_ rewards (reskinned ascended weapon or the wintersday infusion) that have such a teeny tiny chance of dropping that most players will _never_ get one. Especially considering that its a once a day chance. Unless, of course, the drop rate is significantly higher than the usual ArenaNet drop rates? At the moment you get a handful of unidentified items, some gemstones and some eitrite from the chests. I have no idea about the exotic weapons (I didn't see any mention of them in the patch notes) but I assume they're the illuminated boreal weapons? What's _their_ drop rate like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josiah.2967 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I will be glad when we get our achievements and this will be dead content because it is boring. This update actually made it worse. XP Sponge now with mini XP sponges... YAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manasa Devi.7958 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I had been hoping to see lodestones added to the rewards to make the chapter's content more self-sustaining. Even if 1 or 2 a day wouldn't amount to much per person, considering you need 40 per amalgamated lodestone, there'd be a constant stream onto the trading post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBullWings.2734 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 guaranteed 1 (or more if you get lucky) corrupted/glacial lodestone when beating drakkar would add a ton of reasons for people to go there, it's plenty of silver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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