TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 This post is clear. Some classes like warrior and necro have easy ress on ally (immune to cc or infinite healt) while other class just can't do a thing. This unbalance the result of the game. Just some minutes ago i killed 3 time my enemies and they won the match, do you think this is a normal thing? Guardians blocks all projectiles, necro fear me and in TWO seconds the enemy is up again. I can't kill my enemy 10 times before a match ends so just reduce the heal to downed ally in 2v2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen.1327 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 you need to focus on interrupts and safe stomp there is very few ways of getting guaranteed rez looking at your name and avatar i assume you play thief, has tools to both interrupt, psn(!) and safe stomp guardians can't block sb 4 btw its unblockable interrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Bro i play dual pistol second weapon, and trust me some comps don't let you the time to interrupt (warrior can't even be with elite). Thats why heal should be reduced. A ress in 2 second is just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProverbsofHell.2307 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Nah, complaining about Battle Standard is going way too far. For a start, they need to give up Rampage just to slot it. And second, it has a two second long cast. It's not an issue imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Battle stendard is the last problem in this post. My 2 second ress doesn't refer to it. A warrior with Rampage (90% of the build use it) can sit and ress in 2 seconds and cannot be interrupted in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidrex.5649 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 > @"TheThief.8475" said: > Bro i play dual pistol second weapon, and trust me some comps don't let you the time to interrupt (warrior can't even be with elite). Thats why heal should be reduced. A ress in 2 second is just ridiculous. he means instacast steal that strips stab and dazes. even if he is having stab you can interrupt that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 The only way to stop a guardian with projectile blocks it to use a melee interrupt, and not much classes have it (for example thief can only use steal, when it's not recharging, and basilisk venom, that require 1 second to cast (if the enemy use one random cc + 1sec cast time u don't make it in time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 > @"Leonidrex.5649" said: > > @"TheThief.8475" said: > > Bro i play dual pistol second weapon, and trust me some comps don't let you the time to interrupt (warrior can't even be with elite). Thats why heal should be reduced. A ress in 2 second is just ridiculous. > he means instacast steal that strips stab and dazes. even if he is having stab you can interrupt that Yes i interrupt him one time, then he start to ress again. Not much a problem for a warrior/revenant or every tank is the world (and necro obv) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrownyClown.8402 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 They should just eliminate downed state in pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Disgrace.4275 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 > @"ProverbsofHell.2307" said: > Nah, complaining about Battle Standard is going way too far. For a start, they need to give up Rampage just to slot it. And second, it has a two second long cast. It's not an issue imo. Sometimes it bugs and fails to stomp enemy people too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 > @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said: > > @"ProverbsofHell.2307" said: > > Nah, complaining about Battle Standard is going way too far. For a start, they need to give up Rampage just to slot it. And second, it has a two second long cast. It's not an issue imo. > > Sometimes it bugs and fails to stomp enemy people too Battle standard is NOT the problem =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 AND JUST A MOMENT AGO AGAIN I KILLED MY ENEMY 3 TIMES AND THEY RESS EACH OTHER EASY (GUARD+REVENANT) SO FUNNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravan.3876 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Normal ress power should definitely get adjusted to the overall lower dmg lvl. Active ress skills (Battle Standard, Glyph, Rezz Signet Necro , FB...) are only a problem because most classes have access to them still have a too high amount of facetank (+and active) sustain and some also have the ability to cover the cast easy by stability. Some classes also have insane high ress ability from traits (or pet) in addition to the general too high ress power. I think reduce facetank sustain and general ress power and ress traits first before touching active ress skills. So when you see a class using a ress skill like ress Signet, it makes sense to focus him first as a tactic to coutner that. Atm you often are still forced to focus the other player first, simply because the one with the ress power (and support) is overly tanky (while still having tons of dmg, the good old balance problem since game release) and not a good first target while his duo can freecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Man i just had a match vs guardian and revenant, when you kill the guardian he use his knockback skill (you know which) and by the time i'm able to attack again the revenant already ressed him. Is so fucking stupid and free wins for tanks duo. That makes no sense when me or my ally go down noone can help the other (ele + thief) this is the most unbalanced thing in the game at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 You are right btw, this is probably the result of balance patch, in 7 years in the game i've never had this problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 > @"TheThief.8475" said: > Man i just had a match vs guardian and revenant, when you kill the guardian he use his knockback skill (you know which) and by the time i'm able to attack again the revenant already ressed him. I Assume your shadows step stomp didnt work? I assume the black powders you dropped on the downed didnt blind them long enough to avoid the knockback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 You suppose i use your build, you suppose weapon swap has not cd you just suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTGuevara.9018 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Yes, yes and yes. I'm guilty of using Battle Standard, but to warriors' defense it has a cast time of TWO seconds and it has a 180 second cooldown if not picked up, plus we can mess it up by dropping it adjacent to the body and have it not do anything! Necro resurrection though is STUPID. I've taken down many only for the necro to rez them up in 1.5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Geez, just delete all classes but thief from the game ----Easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycoprophet.8107 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 > @"ollbirtan.2915" said: > Geez, just delete all classes but thief from the game ----Easy! Wtf is a thief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I don't get why a player that runs a build with an unblockable steal that prioritizes stability for stealing and a skill like headshot complains about uninterruptable rezzes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheThief.8475 Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 The main problem is that ress is just too fast, time ago was okay, i could spam 3-4k damage with autoattacks only, today damage is almost half and ress power is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantheman.3589 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Res is strong but I don’t see infinite sustain and immune to cc if u mean rampage and much form I don’t think u can Rez at same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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