Jilora.9524

> @"Sobx.1758" said: > > @"Fuchslein.8639" said: > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > @"voltaicbore.8012" said: > > > > > @"Fuchslein.8639" said: > > > > > > > > TLDR; Even if it makes logical 'sense' for PoF mobs to just be everywhere all the time, it's still a terrible design decision, and one that is inferior to how they designed mob interactions in core maps. > > > > > > > > > I don't have much time for GW2. The reason I played it in the first place is because everyone advertises that GW2 is casual and work friendly. I don't want to spend my time slaughtering through hordes of mobs, easy or hard. There are plenty of games where you can do that. That's why I liked Core Gw2 and HOT. You can just ignore the mobs. While in POF you should get rid of them if you want to do screens or something else because of the range. > > > > > > > > I feel exactly the same on this issue. There's a lot of value to being able to just look around and take in the map environments, and that's getting increasingly less worth it to try. I also play GW2 because it's not about grinding 2000x mobs everywhere you go, and I'm sure many others feel the same as we do. > > > > > > > > I'd have to go back and check more places to be 100% sure, but I feel like core maps were designed with much more logic to mob locations and patterns. For instance, you can get around Queensdale along many paved roads that don't randomly have enemies sitting on them for no reason. > > > > > > And comparing lvl 1-15 core zone to the late/endgame one from expansion where we got especs+mounts makes sense in what way exactly? > > > You can still run around core areas if that's what you enjoy. Taking every zone in the game back to the introductory/tutorial grade is far from logical or desired by probably most people that play any game at all. > > > > > > If you want *walking simulator*, then play *walking simulator* instead of something that is/wants to be *action mmorpg*. > > > > If you want a super hardcore hack'n'slay with endless hordes of enemies, play DMC. > > In case you don't realize it, that's sarcasm for your constantly exaggerated responses like "if you want a walking simulator". > > "Great" job dodging. Keep expecting lategame maps to be on the same level as queensdale, I guess. No one dodged anything. Your still in here telling players they can't find something annoying because you didn't. Then to critique a build with no idea of said build and say that's why is laughable. Just like you lack of understanding sarcasm. He or anyone can think something is annoying or the aggro range is annoying or the respawn rate is annoying or struggle in PoF and just because you say you didn't means nothing except he did and you didn't. And plz for the love of god don't spam me with whiney private emails again. You can not tell us how our experience of the game is.

Yeah that's not going to happen. Those are from doing dailies which you get about 4 per year to force 4 years to complete the collection to then unlock the newer versions. Now it does take 8-10 hours to complete a reward trak but you could save pots all year and unlock all 16 when Wintersday hits so they aren't going to let us cut all that effort off. Now anet does need to update these vendors. There are minis that you can buy for 45s but need to trade 110g worth of snow diamonds for or the weekly is just a joke. I mean no one was dropping 10 cobs at 3.5g apiece for a voucher. No one is going to drop 110g or really by anything from the weekly with snow diamond prices.

I'd rather a buff other classes up to their level

You mean 38/38? Think that's just a MP. The tier before usually gives the reward now so players don't feel they have to do every one. If you got the box on a diff character before and never opened and chose no armor would be unlocked. Now if this is not the case and you really didn't get it support maybe can help.

Sounds like lag or desynch more then a bug. I only can relate to this in WvW on the rare occasion I chase someone and have this happen and sometimes they are sitting on their mount like a echo but the aren't really there because they lagged off or were d/c as I was chasing them.

First you compare GW2 to 2 $15 a month games but lets take FF14 and it's you will play at our pace crap. FF14 is nothing but a gear grind then wait 3 months for that gear to become obsolete to gear grind again. It is also time gated af. You can only earn so much per week and get 1 or 2 pieces per week. They release everything in the same order. Beast tribe then you grind dailys then craft grind and gather grind. Not to mention the forced story to progress with hard group encounters to easily get stuck with bad luck which can prevent you from going to the next zone. Then the cutscenes where if 1 person in your group wants to watch it adds 5-10m each dungeon with you sitting in a box waiting. It's fun at first because so much to do but it is so repetitive and forced no choice which path you take. Gw2 blows right now ngl. These Drms and chopping this episode into 4 parts and depending on festivals to carry them is bad but still better then $15 FF14 and I can casually play GW2 but never will touch FF14 and that progression system again.

It adds up. They let you back in but if you d/c next match you get in too but then next match you start hitting dishoner like above the game don't know if you d/c or leaving games on purpose

80 will remain max level. I do hope they add new legendary and I actually hope they add t7 mats so it's not like eso where an entire expansion is added but nothing new crafting wise. Could that then devalue the price of legendary yes gold wise but they would still remain useful as level cap wont increase

> @"zistenz.1945" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > That seems to be expected, considering we have ever growing number of maps. People join particular metas, opening new instances and after the meta is done they move somewhere else, which closes instances created during meta events. I'm not sure why that's "not good", seems unavoidable and pretty reasonable. > > I mean, on HoT maps, after a meta, people usually stay and organizing hp runs, calling help for mastery points, etc.. After a PoF meta everyone just left, no one wants to stay there. Today we have the Desolation on daily, and we just finished the legendary forged event. After that, everyone grabbed their rewards and just left, the map emptied in 5 mins. Occasionally I'm doing the Tarir meta, and never had this, even on weekday nights. Yeah. PoF maps are less rewarding then going to HoT and even staying to do maps probably because of shiny baubles smaller size and just more engaging map wide slowly build up the lanes by events. Now to say AB doesn't close maps is false. I mean at reset there are at least 6 maps made with 4 or 5 octo completion and if you stay which I do you will get the map close prompt 5 times. PoF almost max except for casino blitz few extra maps are made and yes once we do that event we all bouncing to more lucrative areas. Map closing means nothing except it's trying to funnel 2 or 3 maps w 10 players into one map with 30 players. The thing to with the HP runs. HoT has alot of pita need a bunch of players hence the calls for help vs PoF where most only need a few max and most soloable

I think it's pretty simple. It's because they aren't dead. Now I don't know for sure I can contribute to capturing something while downed alone by some crazy I killed everything but got downed in the circle. But as for prevent you from taking the objective while I'm downed yes, I count because I am not dead. Downed in GW2 is not dead.

> @"Tony.8659" said: > Did Anet say anything about Ebon Vanguard Support Marks? I been saving them because I bought everything with them. They should let us know, yes they might be useful in the next update in January or no you can just spend them. Why is it so hard to tell us? They aren't useful in later episodes. These marks are all 1 week events to trade in then if for some reason you don't trade them in they will end up on the other vender so you can trade them for 5 tyrian def seals.

That does look fun. I use spectral grasp but never thought to do that. Are you pressing it b4 the jump or can you use it in mid air too? I try to squint in but u seem to do both

No, You are at a tower. Maybe you killed guards. The bag of loot could be out of your ss because of aoe loot. Your say inventory was full. You picked up 2 items at least. Auto loot picked up the wooden chest from a player or mob w/e and the spike from the guards or maybe each guard dropped something idk. You did what I said. You can't run away and loot again as the chest would be gone. The only way is you there were multiple items on the right you grabbed one and let the spike sit there and tried to grab the spike to proc the 2nd inv full msg. Then you took your ss No you took the rare item but the chest will sit there if other items are also in that loot window allowing you to take the rare and leave the spike which I now have no doubt you did and are misleading intentionally. I can only guess scenarios but I know for sure a wooden chest didn't have only a spike in it.

Btw the clue is you got your inventory full msg twice upper left

No I will agree the inventory full thing caused this. I bet the wooden chest had a good item and the spike on the right side of unclaimed loot. You then deposited an item to grab the good loot right clicked took some loot most likely from the chest but because the unclaimed loot widow was still opened the chest stays there for you to ss and pretend you got a spike in the chest.

I don't even do the daily now. There is almost nothing to suffer through them at all. It really is hard to play knowing the next 3 episodes are just going to add more and just the next tier in masteries which is just the next tier in dragon weapons unlocking and a couple of weekly recruit factions. I swear that's all the next 4 months are and maybe they will surprise me. I don't even think 2g per mission would motivate me to play these anymore. Only way at this point is what they do with weekly strikes so you do a few for shards and 3 dailies per week for extra loot and shards to slowly unlock runic for volcanic. If they did this w drm's maybe I would do 3 a week for 3 crystals for a little extra loot and slow progress towards Volcanic

Ya you got kills and almost 2 more. When I say things like you can engage and run off I am directing that at mez and thiefs in general not at you because I don't know how you play. For every 1 time a mez or thief stays to the end of the fight to die 50 of you mez and thief run off. So great you stayed but I bet there are plenty of times you sauntered off after 3 or 4 kills because of stealth and mobility. How fun is that if you on the other side. And amazingly no sentry spawned to ruin that fight for you

> @"Jables.4659" said: > > @"Jilora.9524" said: > > > Yes, everything favors the side that has more players because they have more players. You know where the sentry's spawn so if you want to engage 1 v 3 because stealth allows that and you only play the 4 classes w access to it then when it becomes a 1 v 5 and something dramatic happens like the sentry spawning in the exact same spot it always does and 90 percent of the time we watch the mez or thief still gets away. But once in a great while you get caught and killed that is not an issue. That is you getting punished for engaging 1 v 3 then 1 v 5 and any class w/o stealth doesn't have that huge bailout. So they add this easy avoidable mechanic to hinder you or you would die get caught even less. You basically are complaining your kill death ratio drops from 50-1 to 40-1 and you have to be aware of your surroundings for an npc that might turn a 1 v 3 fight disregarding the fact that you fight all day 1 v 3 and get kills and run off all day and we can't do anything but waste our time and that's cool but dying once in a while to you isn't. > > Did I say I only play the classes with access to it? Also, its not just those four, Guardian has access with trapper runes. Its funny that you mention that as though its a terrible thing. Last I checked, Revenant was pretty powerful with 0 stealth access. Historically, warrior has been a powerful roamer with 0 stealth access. Currently, Necro is probably the easiest pickup class to play and do well on with 0 stealth access. Fresh Air Weaver is perfectly capable of "1v3 and get kills and run off" with 0 stealth access. And to your main point, I am generally more than willing to take a fight to its inevitable conclusion if there is even a snowballs chance that I will win because The most fun parts of this game are fighting a 1v1 between two truly skilled opponents and fighting a 1vX where the combined power of the enemies makes them equivalent to a truly skilled opponent. > > Just to prove the point, here's a 1vX where I could've easily escaped without dying but chose to stay despite the fact that I had just made a **terrible mistake** in underestimating the range and damage of flamethrower kit. My belief that marked is bad for the game is not about "get kills and run off all day", its about not wanting a class like Mesmer that is already at a huge disadvantage in a lot of fights to be at an even bigger disadvantage. > > I'm a Mesmer main, but I enjoy hopping on Engineer, Ranger, and thief so yeah you mentioned it. I saw that and if you list 4 of 9 it means to me you mostly play 4 classes w stealth not that you never play other classes just you don't play then enough to mention or you would've said I play all classes Ok, now your arguing about non topic shit. Plenty can engage 1 v 3 of course. Plenty of classes have strong builds and can disengage and run but the main culprits are thief and mez. Sure a war or ele can get away but a necro and rev and guard probably won't. This is about sentrys and watchtowers and how it slightly affects stealth classes and easily avoidable but somehow it's this major issue when if you are honest with yourself it almost never affects anyone other then to mark you on the map and draw someone like me to fight you. But to say that you are dying or being affected by static sentrys of course deep in opponents territory is affecting you so much it's unfair is just silly. There would be so many less fight w/o these too. I see 3 dots going nc I go. I see 20 dots at a tower you announce it otherwise these objectives are just gone and no fight at all. I can get to nc w/o being marked. I can take camp s bay w/o being marked. I can traverse the whole map w/o being marked as a reaper if I want so you guys w stealth and shit ton mobility claiming your gameplay is affected is laughable

> @"Jables.4659" said: > > @"Jilora.9524" said: > > > And of course no sentry and you get to escape from 5 players every single time and of course that's perfectly cool and fun for everyone. The random had to take the sentry 5m before it's not like a big instant surprise surprise there's a sentry in some non-static spot so yeah that perfect escape foiled happens what once a month > If I use my abilities well, sure. If I don't, no. Enemies still have reveal and their own mobility skills. if they use them better than I do they deserve the kill. I am perfectly okay with that. What I don't want is a mechanic built into WvW that drastically changed the way the game mode felt after 7 years and literally favors the side with more players in a smallscale fight. > > Yes, everything favors the side that has more players because they have more players. You know where the sentry's spawn so if you want to engage 1 v 3 because stealth allows that and you only play the 4 classes w access to it then when it becomes a 1 v 5 and something dramatic happens like the sentry spawning in the exact same spot it always does and 90 percent of the time we watch the mez or thief still gets away. But once in a great while you get caught and killed that is not an issue. That is you getting punished for engaging 1 v 3 then 1 v 5 and any class w/o stealth doesn't have that huge bailout. So they add this easy avoidable mechanic to hinder you or you would die get caught even less. You basically are complaining your kill death ratio drops from 50-1 to 40-1 and you have to be aware of your surroundings for an npc that might turn a 1 v 3 fight disregarding the fact that you fight all day 1 v 3 and get kills and run off all day and we can't do anything but waste our time and that's cool but dying once in a while to you isn't.

> @"Jables.4659" said: > > @"Bigpapasmurf.5623" said: > > > Does it hinder? Of course it does. Does it always turn the tides of a fight? Nope > > I'm really not trying to get into a whole thing here, but that is exactly the point. I'm a Mesmer main, but I enjoy hopping on Engineer, Ranger, and thief from time to time and with all of these classes I'm annoyed beyond belief when I end up in a 1v5 and need to get out of dodge. I have a perfect escape but some random flips a sentry and my mass invisibility ends after 2 seconds. Its just an awful mechanic. > > And of course no sentry and you get to escape from 5 players every single time and of course that's perfectly cool and fun for everyone. The random had to take the sentry 5m before it's not like a big instant surprise surprise there's a sentry in some non-static spot so yeah that perfect escape foiled happens what once a month?

> @"Carcharoth Lucian.1378" said: > Updated population before relink and after weekly calculation : >  > > Link for better quality : https://i.imgur.com/V0aQAeB.png You Eu guys really know how to exploit the system. Next move is the we''ll show Wsr and that transfer to Rof and a whole bunch of guilds transfer to like BT to stack them. Then you can have full/full vs another full/full in t1 and best bandwagoners win. Honestly anet just lock anyone that transferred from wsr to a link back to wsr and then now to RoF from transferring again because those guys are the real problem. Stop letting them exploit the system and lock them from transferring for like 6 months since they got 6 months of full/full stacked ruin the mode for anyone else in T1.

You can't. The easiest way to earn gold is to log out of WvW and Pve. Also SoS is full so that dream gone too. WvW is have all boosts active to reward trak progress and take as many things as possible to level faster. Hit all the nodes after you take it preferably with glyph of bounty of course that is an expensive item you probably don't have. Do all that and you still make less then Pve but we play for fun not gold.

Wow thieves that agree w each other that is shocking

> @"Cynz.9437" said: > > @"Jilora.9524" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > @"Cynz.9437" said: > > > > > @"SuchosCZ.2167" said: > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > @"SuchosCZ.2167" said: > > > > > > > > @"SteepledHat.1345" said: > > > > > > > >This "community" hates when thieves dodge to survive. They hate when they stealth to survive. They hate when they teleport to survive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats not true. People dont hate these mechanics. People hate, that thief has all of them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name one rogue in any mmo that doesn't. Wow-check, eso-check,bdo,check,ff14-check lol rogue archetype always use stealth, high evades and teleports in pretty much every mmo, it's what its thing is. Other classes have reveals, higher hp, higher armor, barriers, more access to blocks/shields, invulnerability skills and other defensive skills and in gw2 even other classes have access to teleports( rangers,guards,mesmer,ele,necro, rev etc) and also stealth( ranger,mesmer,guards with trappers etc) the real issue is rogue's are just generally disliked by the players who dont play them due to their universal playstyle, which is why the rogue complaining is the same on every mmo forum. Anet needs to learn to ignore the whining if they want to have a rogue like in their game. > > > > > > > > > > Never played most of the MMOs you mentioned. But i did play WoW like 10 years ago. From what i remember, you could go to stealth only out of combat or with Vanish, that had like 2 minutes cooldown. Also ANY DAMAGE would reveal you and i dont remember having any teleport at all, but there might be one. And are you really telling me, that there are skills for reveal ? really? which one ele have? LOL > > > > > There is like 9 skills that have reveal in the entire game (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revealed) and half of them are total garbage > > > > > > > > I have played rogue in wow, also above 2200 rating in arena and rbgs. WoW rogues were miles stronger than thieves in GW2. Rogues in wow could stunlock you to death and had actual teleports that worked and not GW2 version of "hey let's use long Cds or entire ini just get no valid path message". On top of it they had absolute long lasting evades and condi immunity which thief could only dream about. I spent a lot of time jumping into whole mob of enemies (high rated at that), murder someone quickly and get away. Every time. Unthinkable in GW2 even with suicide thief. You guys really don't know how good you have it with thief in this game compared to WoW and some other games. > > > > > > This 100%^ > > > I could only imagine the qq's if the thief in gw2 was designed similar to nightblade in eso, rogue in wow, ninja in bdo or dark runner in AAU lol. I donno something about gw2 attracts players that qq about everything that beats them a few times. There are no better players in gw2 just op builds so eventually every good build on every class gets gutted with 0 compensation leading to a game with all crappy dumbed down builds and playstyle and the few thst slip through the cracks that yr become fotm choice lol. > > > > You do get that this thread was a QQ by a thief and agreed with mostly by other thieves who also are qq'ing about it right? Not to say gw2 players don't qq about thieves or everything in general. > > Well, point is this debuff locks out the class out of their main mechanic. People justify it with thief having supposedly too much stealth and bring in other games (which is stupid at best, imo). > I personally would love if just for 1 day mesmers would be locked out of clones, guards out of heals/blocks, necros out of life force etc. by this this debuff in WvW. Maybe then people would understand the issue. Once again, the community should really blame themselves for having so many thieves ruining their roaming experience - you guys are the one who kick thieves from zergs thus forcing them into roaming solo existence. Some thieves switched to something zerg friendly, other perfected their roaming builds and skills. There are plenty of classes and builds that can easily deal with builds BUT most people don't run them because they prefer to zerg. And then they complain about thieves. Find the error here. Again my same argument with cad it is just sentrys and the rare watchtower. It's so you thieves can't run rampant thru the entire map. You know if nothing like this there would be even more thieves hiding right in spots to jump players out of stealth right next to towers or hiding behind the arch in the camp south of bay or right before smc on enemy side for any single heading that way because there would be nothing at all to prevent it and yeah no one wants to run core necro just in case a thief shows up. There are not plenty of ways. It's not an error. It's wvw that you play as pvp 1 v 1. You thieves play it wrong not most of the players but anet doesn't give you a choice really

> @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > @"Jilora.9524" said: > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > @"Cynz.9437" said: > > > > > @"SuchosCZ.2167" said: > > > > > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > > > > > @"SuchosCZ.2167" said: > > > > > > > > @"SteepledHat.1345" said: > > > > > > > >This "community" hates when thieves dodge to survive. They hate when they stealth to survive. They hate when they teleport to survive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats not true. People dont hate these mechanics. People hate, that thief has all of them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Name one rogue in any mmo that doesn't. Wow-check, eso-check,bdo,check,ff14-check lol rogue archetype always use stealth, high evades and teleports in pretty much every mmo, it's what its thing is. Other classes have reveals, higher hp, higher armor, barriers, more access to blocks/shields, invulnerability skills and other defensive skills and in gw2 even other classes have access to teleports( rangers,guards,mesmer,ele,necro, rev etc) and also stealth( ranger,mesmer,guards with trappers etc) the real issue is rogue's are just generally disliked by the players who dont play them due to their universal playstyle, which is why the rogue complaining is the same on every mmo forum. Anet needs to learn to ignore the whining if they want to have a rogue like in their game. > > > > > > > > > > Never played most of the MMOs you mentioned. But i did play WoW like 10 years ago. From what i remember, you could go to stealth only out of combat or with Vanish, that had like 2 minutes cooldown. Also ANY DAMAGE would reveal you and i dont remember having any teleport at all, but there might be one. And are you really telling me, that there are skills for reveal ? really? which one ele have? LOL > > > > > There is like 9 skills that have reveal in the entire game (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Revealed) and half of them are total garbage > > > > > > > > I have played rogue in wow, also above 2200 rating in arena and rbgs. WoW rogues were miles stronger than thieves in GW2. Rogues in wow could stunlock you to death and had actual teleports that worked and not GW2 version of "hey let's use long Cds or entire ini just get no valid path message". On top of it they had absolute long lasting evades and condi immunity which thief could only dream about. I spent a lot of time jumping into whole mob of enemies (high rated at that), murder someone quickly and get away. Every time. Unthinkable in GW2 even with suicide thief. You guys really don't know how good you have it with thief in this game compared to WoW and some other games. > > > > > > This 100%^ > > > I could only imagine the qq's if the thief in gw2 was designed similar to nightblade in eso, rogue in wow, ninja in bdo or dark runner in AAU lol. I donno something about gw2 attracts players that qq about everything that beats them a few times. There are no better players in gw2 just op builds so eventually every good build on every class gets gutted with 0 compensation leading to a game with all crappy dumbed down builds and playstyle and the few thst slip through the cracks that yr become fotm choice lol. > > > > You do get that this thread was a QQ by a thief and agreed with mostly by other thieves who also are qq'ing about it right? Not to say gw2 players don't qq about thieves or everything in general. > > Yeah, my post was regarding the post I quoted, about gw2 players complaining about thief and how they have it easy compared to rogue likes in other mmo's which are usually paired with even stronger mechanics. I also agree with the OP about sentey's needing a review for today's version of gw2 wvw. They also need to review the stealth debuff duration as it's far to low. Yeah I don't think players complain constant about thieves in pvp like we do in WvW. I think it's more you can bring a pure pvp single target build from PvP w less limitations to WvW and wreck players who aren't specced to pvp and more team orientated so you get the one shot no chance for that player in wvw but we don't see that in PvP so we qq. Idk about wow I quit at 80 w/e expac that was but eso everyone could stealth and Every class also had a real way of combating stealth not like the 8 reveals total and I only get it if i'm core necro not reaper or scourge. I don't think gw2 has it easy vs those. I do think thief is never balanced well in any game and you thieves think one - shot or a fast kill before reaction is just normal and fun gameplay and that's more the issue. The expectations of you players that gravitate towards thief.