Sobx.1758

> @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"Psycoprophet.8107" said: > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > some rants > > > > > > > > Listen, these screenshots come from duels in FFA arena (double checked them, and even the 4.9k/5.5k were from FFA, I've made a mistake 'cause I took the screenshot while I was in a match but the combat log was from a previous sparring in arena). Same goes for 4.3k larcenous strike. There was no vuln\might involved as thief hasn't any obvious way to build them up on its own. Don't like it? Next time I'll have a thief on my kitten trying to kill me I'll ask for his build. If he comes out of stealth long enough for me to go _right click => whisper_, that is. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, let me explain this *very* simply. The numbers youre showing? Theyre *impossible* without might and vuln shenanigans. Not "Tricky to achieve" not "extremely niche", *IMPOSSIBLE*. I already showed you what the *actual* damage is. Unless you care to explain how thieves achieves 86% extra damage with the highest amount that can be *possibly* achieved with an extremely bad super-max damage build that will *never* achieve those numbers in a realistic scenario being only around 50%, Im just gonna call shenanigans. > > > > > > > But, on a separate note, are you're seriously asking me to give you a build for your class? You play thief, find your own builds, how tf am I supposed to know what a random guy in arena is running? Combat log is all I have. > > > > > > I dont play thief. I just know youre full of it. > > > > Thing is with DA/trik and DD even when u gain might and cause vulnerability on steal u still don't reach those numbers. If u run build above and gain might/inflict vulnerabilities u still get 4800k as top damage on back stab for example and definitely not 4k shadow shots, and thsts running zerk amulet and scholar rune while at 100% hp so.... > At this point someone could say "_A_", you may show actual literal proof of "_B_" and instead of a getting conversation about that you'll end up having all sort of strange characters arguing that your proof isn't real it didn't happen Hilarious, because that's literally what you're doing with your "8k out of stealth opener on trailblazer" claim that you base on the video that simply proves otherwise :lol:

> @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"Raiden The Beast.3016" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shadowshot is not a heavy hitter and it doesnt hit anywhere *close* to 4.5k (4.5k is what *backstab* hits for.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever thief > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yes, context-less screenshots. Cant even tell if its post-patch or pre-patch, or used a specific scenario to push up the damage. Classic evidence. I mean its not like we have a lot of footage of MAs showing thieves hitting 4.5k with backstab on squishies, and just over 3k with shadowshot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.977 and 5.476 are from the same guy I had a match with in 28/11/2020, the other one is from a duel I had in 20/11/2020; these skills didn't undergo any change since then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But you know that very well because I've gathered them for _you_ when you were complaining about thief dealing no damage in a similar thread a couple of months ago. Since then I've started screenshotting combat logs for a week or so and then stopped as the thread died but in that time I've gathered evidence for 5.7k backstab (some crazy-kitten dude was running assassin signet and went for an 8k), 5k cluster bombs, 4.5k larcenous strike, 4.9k cloak&dagger. I've also learned that cloak&dagger into backstab can hit for some solid 10K, which is kinda situational but it's there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Didn't post these other screenshots as we were talking about shadowshot, but I've been called a liar for saying thief can hit these numbers (and it's quite regular, all of these screenshots were collected in a week and I'm not playing in some high-tier legendary level against God knows who) and I provided the evidence to back up my claims. Your best answer is calling my evidence false, my answer is the same as it's been in that thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > __JUST THINNER YOUR FINGER__ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just look into streams from Pain and other top teefs. You will not see these numbers. Its not needed to show not proven screenshots and non realistic situations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U can look at teef noodle dmg live on stream... show me 10k backstep... show me endless dodges ... show the opness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruh there's the screenshot. It's literally there. Either you accuse me of tampering it or you believe what you see. How tf am I supposed to know what these guys were running? You think I've asked them the build they were using while they were hammering me? Numbers are the only thing I've got and these are the numbers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1401417/#Comment_1401417 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luckily we still have the video under which you've claimed there are 8k openers out of stealth on a full trailblazer "despite thief being pepega", so we can just SEE the tampering and bending the facts, aye? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see a condi mirage in wvw, take a wild guess and say he's running trailblazer -which the mirage in question confirmed- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mirage has some 23.6k HP, after thief opens up it's 16.1k, it's some 7.5k damage. It's tampering? > > > > > > > > > > > > There are literal screenshot buddy, so yes, it is tampering. > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I say thief hits me in FFA arena for X damage, provide screenshot of said damage and you say I made that screenshot up? > > > > > > > > > > Ok. > > > > > > > > I don't care what you claim something did somewhere to someone. I care that we can see exactly where you tried to *bend the facts* to fit your opinion. > > > > > > Bruh what facts did I bend lmao. I'm not "claiming someone hit me for X with Y", I'm _showing_ you someone hit me for X with Y. > > > > Check the link, the quote at the bottom of that post is where you did that. How is this not blatantly clear to you? What else do you need to be guided through? > > I'm sure you noticed the mirage has 23.6k HP, thief opens up and mirage drops to 16.1. If you didn't, do. I'm sure you noticed multiple screenshots of multiple "engages out of stealth" that dealt 2,4k-3,1k dmg, so good luck with those "8k openers out of stealth on trialblazer" claim, which is straight up false. As for "just looking at the health", I already responded to that: *Backstab is "an opener from stealth". If you keep standing and get autoattacked for next 5k dmg, it's not exactly because "out of stealth opener is broken and deals 8k on trailblazer".* And no matter how many times you repeat "just look at the health!", that's not what "opener out of stealth" is. Keep bending the facts and pretending you don't. :)

> @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > @"Raiden The Beast.3016" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > > > > > > Shadowshot is not a heavy hitter and it doesnt hit anywhere *close* to 4.5k (4.5k is what *backstab* hits for.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever thief > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yes, context-less screenshots. Cant even tell if its post-patch or pre-patch, or used a specific scenario to push up the damage. Classic evidence. I mean its not like we have a lot of footage of MAs showing thieves hitting 4.5k with backstab on squishies, and just over 3k with shadowshot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.977 and 5.476 are from the same guy I had a match with in 28/11/2020, the other one is from a duel I had in 20/11/2020; these skills didn't undergo any change since then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But you know that very well because I've gathered them for _you_ when you were complaining about thief dealing no damage in a similar thread a couple of months ago. Since then I've started screenshotting combat logs for a week or so and then stopped as the thread died but in that time I've gathered evidence for 5.7k backstab (some crazy-kitten dude was running assassin signet and went for an 8k), 5k cluster bombs, 4.5k larcenous strike, 4.9k cloak&dagger. I've also learned that cloak&dagger into backstab can hit for some solid 10K, which is kinda situational but it's there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Didn't post these other screenshots as we were talking about shadowshot, but I've been called a liar for saying thief can hit these numbers (and it's quite regular, all of these screenshots were collected in a week and I'm not playing in some high-tier legendary level against God knows who) and I provided the evidence to back up my claims. Your best answer is calling my evidence false, my answer is the same as it's been in that thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > > > __JUST THINNER YOUR FINGER__ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just look into streams from Pain and other top teefs. You will not see these numbers. Its not needed to show not proven screenshots and non realistic situations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U can look at teef noodle dmg live on stream... show me 10k backstep... show me endless dodges ... show the opness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bruh there's the screenshot. It's literally there. Either you accuse me of tampering it or you believe what you see. How tf am I supposed to know what these guys were running? You think I've asked them the build they were using while they were hammering me? Numbers are the only thing I've got and these are the numbers. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1401417/#Comment_1401417 > > > > > > > > > > > > Luckily we still have the video under which you've claimed there are 8k openers out of stealth on a full trailblazer "despite thief being pepega", so we can just SEE the tampering and bending the facts, aye? > > > > > > > > > > I see a condi mirage in wvw, take a wild guess and say he's running trailblazer -which the mirage in question confirmed- > > > > > > > > > > Mirage has some 23.6k HP, after thief opens up it's 16.1k, it's some 7.5k damage. It's tampering? > > > > > > > > There are literal screenshot buddy, so yes, it is tampering. > > > > > > I'm sorry, I say thief hits me in FFA arena for X damage, provide screenshot of said damage and you say I made that screenshot up? > > > > > > Ok. > > > > I don't care what you claim something did somewhere to someone. I care that we can see exactly where you tried to *bend the facts* to fit your opinion. > > Bruh what facts did I bend lmao. I'm not "claiming someone hit me for X with Y", I'm _showing_ you someone hit me for X with Y. Check the link, the quote at the bottom of that post is where you did that. How is this not blatantly clear to you? What else do you need to be guided through?

> @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > @"Raiden The Beast.3016" said: > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > > > > Shadowshot is not a heavy hitter and it doesnt hit anywhere *close* to 4.5k (4.5k is what *backstab* hits for.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever thief > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yes, context-less screenshots. Cant even tell if its post-patch or pre-patch, or used a specific scenario to push up the damage. Classic evidence. I mean its not like we have a lot of footage of MAs showing thieves hitting 4.5k with backstab on squishies, and just over 3k with shadowshot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.977 and 5.476 are from the same guy I had a match with in 28/11/2020, the other one is from a duel I had in 20/11/2020; these skills didn't undergo any change since then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But you know that very well because I've gathered them for _you_ when you were complaining about thief dealing no damage in a similar thread a couple of months ago. Since then I've started screenshotting combat logs for a week or so and then stopped as the thread died but in that time I've gathered evidence for 5.7k backstab (some crazy-kitten dude was running assassin signet and went for an 8k), 5k cluster bombs, 4.5k larcenous strike, 4.9k cloak&dagger. I've also learned that cloak&dagger into backstab can hit for some solid 10K, which is kinda situational but it's there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Didn't post these other screenshots as we were talking about shadowshot, but I've been called a liar for saying thief can hit these numbers (and it's quite regular, all of these screenshots were collected in a week and I'm not playing in some high-tier legendary level against God knows who) and I provided the evidence to back up my claims. Your best answer is calling my evidence false, my answer is the same as it's been in that thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > __JUST THINNER YOUR FINGER__ > > > > > > > > > > > > Just look into streams from Pain and other top teefs. You will not see these numbers. Its not needed to show not proven screenshots and non realistic situations. > > > > > > > > > > > > U can look at teef noodle dmg live on stream... show me 10k backstep... show me endless dodges ... show the opness > > > > > > > > > > Bruh there's the screenshot. It's literally there. Either you accuse me of tampering it or you believe what you see. How tf am I supposed to know what these guys were running? You think I've asked them the build they were using while they were hammering me? Numbers are the only thing I've got and these are the numbers. > > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1401417/#Comment_1401417 > > > > > > > > Luckily we still have the video under which you've claimed there are 8k openers out of stealth on a full trailblazer "despite thief being pepega", so we can just SEE the tampering and bending the facts, aye? > > > > > > I see a condi mirage in wvw, take a wild guess and say he's running trailblazer -which the mirage in question confirmed- > > > > > > Mirage has some 23.6k HP, after thief opens up it's 16.1k, it's some 7.5k damage. It's tampering? > > > > There are literal screenshot buddy, so yes, it is tampering. > > I'm sorry, I say thief hits me in FFA arena for X damage, provide screenshot of said damage and you say I made that screenshot up? > > Ok. I don't care what you claim something did somewhere to someone. I care that we can see exactly where you tried to *bend the facts* to fit your opinion. ...and when did I say you "made that screenshot up"? :lol:

> @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > @"Raiden The Beast.3016" said: > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > > > Shadowshot is not a heavy hitter and it doesnt hit anywhere *close* to 4.5k (4.5k is what *backstab* hits for.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever thief > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > >  > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yes, context-less screenshots. Cant even tell if its post-patch or pre-patch, or used a specific scenario to push up the damage. Classic evidence. I mean its not like we have a lot of footage of MAs showing thieves hitting 4.5k with backstab on squishies, and just over 3k with shadowshot. > > > > > > > > > > 4.977 and 5.476 are from the same guy I had a match with in 28/11/2020, the other one is from a duel I had in 20/11/2020; these skills didn't undergo any change since then. > > > > > > > > > > But you know that very well because I've gathered them for _you_ when you were complaining about thief dealing no damage in a similar thread a couple of months ago. Since then I've started screenshotting combat logs for a week or so and then stopped as the thread died but in that time I've gathered evidence for 5.7k backstab (some crazy-kitten dude was running assassin signet and went for an 8k), 5k cluster bombs, 4.5k larcenous strike, 4.9k cloak&dagger. I've also learned that cloak&dagger into backstab can hit for some solid 10K, which is kinda situational but it's there. > > > > > > > > > > Didn't post these other screenshots as we were talking about shadowshot, but I've been called a liar for saying thief can hit these numbers (and it's quite regular, all of these screenshots were collected in a week and I'm not playing in some high-tier legendary level against God knows who) and I provided the evidence to back up my claims. Your best answer is calling my evidence false, my answer is the same as it's been in that thread. > > > > > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > __JUST THINNER YOUR FINGER__ > > > > > > > > Just look into streams from Pain and other top teefs. You will not see these numbers. Its not needed to show not proven screenshots and non realistic situations. > > > > > > > > U can look at teef noodle dmg live on stream... show me 10k backstep... show me endless dodges ... show the opness > > > > > > Bruh there's the screenshot. It's literally there. Either you accuse me of tampering it or you believe what you see. How tf am I supposed to know what these guys were running? You think I've asked them the build they were using while they were hammering me? Numbers are the only thing I've got and these are the numbers. > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1401417/#Comment_1401417 > > > > Luckily we still have the video under which you've claimed there are 8k openers out of stealth on a full trailblazer "despite thief being pepega", so we can just SEE the tampering and bending the facts, aye? > > I see a condi mirage in wvw, take a wild guess and say he's running trailblazer -which the mirage in question confirmed- > > Mirage has some 23.6k HP, after thief opens up it's 16.1k, it's some 7.5k damage. It's tampering? There are literal screenshot buddy, so yes, it is tampering. Backstab is "an opener from stealth". If you keep standing and get autoattacked for next 5k dmg, it's not exactly because "out of stealth opener is broken and deals 8k on trailblazer".

> @"Agrippa Oculus.3726" said: > > @Astralporing.1957 said: > > Sure, some players actually enjoy that > > Furthermore, it must be me but to my knowledge the concept of 'chill' IS NOT the same as enjoyment. I mean, I don't even see _that_ much correlation, really. Chill means (imo): take it easy, take it slow (much like the condition :) ). Whereas enjoying something is incredibly subjective, right??? True. And there's actually mainly that one person that took that "chill squad" phrase and started debating that it's no longer a "chill" squad when someone has to actually create it, "because that *someone* might not enjoy the process of creating the squad".

> @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"Raiden The Beast.3016" said: > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > Shadowshot is not a heavy hitter and it doesnt hit anywhere *close* to 4.5k (4.5k is what *backstab* hits for.) > > > > > > > > > > Whatever thief > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > >  > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yes, context-less screenshots. Cant even tell if its post-patch or pre-patch, or used a specific scenario to push up the damage. Classic evidence. I mean its not like we have a lot of footage of MAs showing thieves hitting 4.5k with backstab on squishies, and just over 3k with shadowshot. > > > > > > 4.977 and 5.476 are from the same guy I had a match with in 28/11/2020, the other one is from a duel I had in 20/11/2020; these skills didn't undergo any change since then. > > > > > > But you know that very well because I've gathered them for _you_ when you were complaining about thief dealing no damage in a similar thread a couple of months ago. Since then I've started screenshotting combat logs for a week or so and then stopped as the thread died but in that time I've gathered evidence for 5.7k backstab (some crazy-kitten dude was running assassin signet and went for an 8k), 5k cluster bombs, 4.5k larcenous strike, 4.9k cloak&dagger. I've also learned that cloak&dagger into backstab can hit for some solid 10K, which is kinda situational but it's there. > > > > > > Didn't post these other screenshots as we were talking about shadowshot, but I've been called a liar for saying thief can hit these numbers (and it's quite regular, all of these screenshots were collected in a week and I'm not playing in some high-tier legendary level against God knows who) and I provided the evidence to back up my claims. Your best answer is calling my evidence false, my answer is the same as it's been in that thread. > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > __JUST THINNER YOUR FINGER__ > > > > Just look into streams from Pain and other top teefs. You will not see these numbers. Its not needed to show not proven screenshots and non realistic situations. > > > > U can look at teef noodle dmg live on stream... show me 10k backstep... show me endless dodges ... show the opness > > Bruh there's the screenshot. It's literally there. Either you accuse me of tampering it or you believe what you see. How tf am I supposed to know what these guys were running? You think I've asked them the build they were using while they were hammering me? Numbers are the only thing I've got and these are the numbers. https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1401417/#Comment_1401417 Luckily we still have the video from mirage pov under which you've claimed there are 8k openers out of stealth on a full trailblazer "despite thief being pepega", so we can just SEE the tampering and bending the facts on your part, aye?

> @"Yasai.3549" said: > > @"Dadnir.5038" said: > > > That's exactly what you do since ventari already have access to regen (do I stress this fact enough?) and EoE certainly don't need a buff you it's raw healing component. > > No way yu think that Regen for 5s on a 20s cooldown is actual Regen access. > That feels more like a side-effect than anything, and Ventari desperately needs to have more healing presence when swapped out of because the moment the player swaps out of Ventari, they essentially stop all forms of active heal. > > Plus yu sacrifice a Trait option for it. > > Spirit Boon should become a Minor, period. ...no, it shouldn't. You make a choice of traits depending on what you want to do. What you've just said is true for all traits, because you actually "need to sacrifice a trait option for it, so lets make every trait passive I guess". Just because someone wants to passively have access to *whatever* doesn't mean it's an argument to make it that way. You build for a role? Then trait for it. You don't want to trait for it, because you don't think it's worth your choice? Then don't. But then don't say that it somehow should be there all the time, because that's not the case. That's not only true for rev, that's true for the whole trait system. > I would much prefer that over Healing Orbs. Then pick a class with healing mechanics other than that. The difference between the classes IS the point of classes.

> @"lare.5129" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > In this vid you keep constantly dropping below 15-20 fps > it is great result. Yeah, totally, have fun playing with this fps and constant drops when you're alone in the instance.

> @"lare.5129" said: > Guild Wars 2 Running on M1 MacBook Air Using Parallels Windows 10 ARM > looks it have great performance. It I set on my new GeForce same settings I have less fps .. In this vid you keep constantly dropping below 15-20 fps (around 1:03 you dropped to 8 because you turned your camera around -stopped watching beyond this point) in an instance you're alone in. So no, you don't "have less fps on new geforce" LOL I mean it's great you can play it on whatever you want to play it on. But if you're trying to make a competition out of it (again) for whatever reason, at least don't bend the facts.

> @"lare.5129" said: > I have less fps on new geforce wiht that resolution's and settings ..looks great on m1 ! In this vid you keep constantly dropping below 15-20 fps (around 1:03 you dropped to 8 *because you turned your camera around* -stopped watching beyond this point) in an instance you're alone in. So no, you don't "have less fps on new geforce" LOL I mean it's great you can play it on *whatever you want to play it on*. But if you're trying to make a competition out of it (again) *for whatever reason*, at least don't bend the facts.

> @"Dadnir.5038" said: > > What's with people wanting more for things which don't need it? > > That's exactly what you do since ventari already have access to regen (do I stress this fact enough?) and EoE certainly don't need a buff you it's raw healing component. So there's no need to forcefully slap more regen at all just for the sake of *having randomized buffs to what I play*, true.

> @"battledrone.8315" said: > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > @"battledrone.8315" said: > > > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > > > @"battledrone.8315" said: > > > > > > @"Obtena.7952" said: > > > > > > > @"leila.7962" said: > > > > > > > > @"kharmin.7683" said: > > > > > > > > Why is this a problem? Do these players prevent others from achieving the rewards? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The afkers occupy 'players slots' in the current instance. Instead of having more people to help, you have less people actually doing things while these people leech rewards. If the maps didn't have a player cap it would not matter, but since they do, leeching players do matter. Less people doing things will make the metas even longer to complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > ... except those player slots are ALSO occupied by people NOT doing the meta as well. You realize by inferring that people in meta maps not doing meta are a problem ... you are implying people should play the game how you want them to? Should I explain to you why THAT is a BIGGER problem than the people you think are AFK leeching and slowing down your meta? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >yep, the whole concept is flawed from the very start. which is why other mmos make special maps for this kind of activity. > > > > > same with the bosses and dynamic events. give them their own maps, so players get a CHOICE > > > > > > > > Maybe, but that's how it works here and I don't think it's the significant issue to completing content people make it sound like. I also don't see it changing anytime because IIRC, Anet ALREADY changed the game to megeservers to ENABLE this map population approach to solve a BIGGER problem of not having ENOUGH people in a map to complete the meta at all. > > > > > > > > So take your pick ... _maybe_ slower meta completion with maps that have the population to do it ... or _maybe_ people being stuck in multiple map instances that can't complete meta at all. There IS a trade off and while there are instances where population mixes are not optimal, the megaserver implementation is clearly better than it was for more people. > > > > > > i have chosen to play another game instead. one where i dont have to do metas at all. and a sub fee means nothing for a game, that i can play (almost) 24/7 > > > > OK ... I can also play a game with NO sub and not do meta content and 24/7 if I choose to ... it's called GW2. What's your point? What does that have to do with this thread? How does this have ANYTHING to do with the post you replied to? > > good luck getting any masteries done without metas. what else is there to get so many XPs in maguma....lets see....that would be NOTHING > if you want gliding and mounts, you basically have to do metas. What else? You get xp for anything, so... literally anything other than standing still. Claiming that you need to do metas for xp or you won't be able to get masteries is hilarious. And wrong.

> @"battledrone.8315" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > @"battledrone.8315" said: > > > > @"maddoctor.2738" said: > > > > > @"battledrone.8315" said: > > > > > wow. if ncsoft really had another project, wouldnt they had hired a new team for it, so anet could focus their resources on this game?? > > > > > > > > No, why would they hire an entirely new team? Arenanet had the same resources and focus allocated on Guild Wars 2 as they had before those new projects started. The extra people hired where working on the new projects, and the number of those still working on Guild Wars 2 was the same (if not higher) than before. > > > > > > > > > and ncsoft is a huge company, they surely would have the resources to finish a project with a a few hundred employees, instead of just ditching it , and taking a loss > > > > > > > > We don't know exactly why they ditched the project. Plus NCSoft has ditched many projects in the past, I've been in numerous closed beta tests for NCSoft games, and let me tell you, a lot of them never got released. > > > > > > > > > perhaps you are happy to pay for vaporware, but i am not > > > > > > > > You are getting the exact same developer effort you always had. The new projects did not drain the resources from Guild Wars 2, they were -extra- additions. > > > > > > if that was true, then why did gaile leave? did she work on the OTHER PROJECT too? they lost some of the more experienced GW2 personnel at the same > > > time. how do you explain THAT? > > > > Buddy, what's your issue here? > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1398760#Comment_1398760 > > You've recently said you've chosen another game that you enjoy and can play 24/7. Instead of sitting on a forum of the game you apparently hate for absolutely anything and everything, how about you just go play what you enjoy like you said you did? What exactly are you fighting for here? > > wrong, core tyria is the best levelling experience i ever had, and that is what i am fighting for. and that door swings both ways, youre always in the forums too > if you cant stand to read other opinions, then why are you here in the first place? When did I write that I can't stand reading other opinions? I'm not the one that claims that I "have chosen to play another game instead". :D

> @"anduriell.6280" said: > > @"Speedylord.2798" said: > > Well yes, a laptop and a desktop, gaming or not, are just different things. Desktops are stationary, laptops are more compact and thus mobile, being able to be used when not plugged in. > > > > Also please stop putting quotation marks on the "gaming" for gaming laptops, many modern gaming laptops can be faster than most people's gaming desktops so just quit it please. > > > > Mini ITX setups are great and compact, but you still cannot get any work done with them when you're in a public place for example. If you're in a business meeting room you're not gonna place a Mini ITX Desktop, keyboard + mouse and monitor on the table. If you're travelling from office to office it can work, but not when you need to do work on the go or when you need to get things done when you simply do not have the space for a setup or do not want to rely on having power sockets and the necessary space available at all times. > > > > Although gaming laptops can be bought as a mobile counterpart for their gaming desktop at home, most people actually buy gaming laptops to have the benefit of a regular laptop (mobility and portability/lightweight, off the wall use) while also having a good gaming experience when you're not travelling, which would not be possible on a regular ultrabook but would be on a (gaming) desktop. > > Gaming laptops are for people who can benefit from the mobile aspect of it, and would need a good laptop anyway but either 1) cannot afford both a good laptop and desktop 2) do not have the space for a desktop setup 3) simply want to have one solution. There are many more reasons why one would want to look into gaming laptops as a solution but these are just to list a few. > > Agreed, my point is buyers should be aware they are not the same thing and they should not expect same performance. If we can agree on that i don't see any need to keep discussing this point. Yes, they should. But most of what you've said in your initial post about laptops automatically having bad thermals, asus underclocking their machines and suggesting OP's specs shouldn't be able to comfortably run gw2 is just false.

> @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > Shadowshot is not a heavy hitter and it doesnt hit anywhere *close* to 4.5k (4.5k is what *backstab* hits for.) > > Whatever thief > >  >  >  Woooo we paintin' now bois xd     > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > **Bruh 8k burst from stealth on full trailblazer** is not significant damage? The thief was a pepega incapable of keeping up the pressure nor stealing, **but the damage is there.** "whatever mesmer"

> @"battledrone.8315" said: > > @"maddoctor.2738" said: > > > @"battledrone.8315" said: > > > wow. if ncsoft really had another project, wouldnt they had hired a new team for it, so anet could focus their resources on this game?? > > > > No, why would they hire an entirely new team? Arenanet had the same resources and focus allocated on Guild Wars 2 as they had before those new projects started. The extra people hired where working on the new projects, and the number of those still working on Guild Wars 2 was the same (if not higher) than before. > > > > > and ncsoft is a huge company, they surely would have the resources to finish a project with a a few hundred employees, instead of just ditching it , and taking a loss > > > > We don't know exactly why they ditched the project. Plus NCSoft has ditched many projects in the past, I've been in numerous closed beta tests for NCSoft games, and let me tell you, a lot of them never got released. > > > > > perhaps you are happy to pay for vaporware, but i am not > > > > You are getting the exact same developer effort you always had. The new projects did not drain the resources from Guild Wars 2, they were -extra- additions. > > if that was true, then why did gaile leave? did she work on the OTHER PROJECT too? they lost some of the more experienced GW2 personnel at the same > time. how do you explain THAT? Buddy, what's your issue here? https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1398760#Comment_1398760 You've recently said you've chosen another game that you enjoy and can play 24/7. Instead of sitting on a forum of the game you apparently hate for absolutely anything and everything, how about you just go play what you enjoy like you said you did? What exactly are you fighting for here?

> @"lare.5129" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > True. So you should stop crying about it when you're so eager to support these great practices. What's your problem here? > there is no any problem if u not worry will be alive gw2 Good. So instead of saying in these threads whatever you're trying to constantly say (which basically boils down to "*mac will make pcs irrelevant*" -LOL), maybe tell the complainers to make educated choices and then live with them instead of misplacing blame on anet while still supporting apple's practices by just buying new stuff as a response.

It doesn't need to get buffed, there's enough time to attack if you're not afking.

> @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > @"Moradorin.6217" said: > > > > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > > > > @"Moradorin.6217" said: > > > > > > > > In what way did I lie about what happens in the video? can you quote the "lie"? Mhmm... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Already did, but you were too busy spamming with "smoking crack". > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1399765/#Comment_1399765 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I responded to the thread to respond to Jasai's post when they said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lmao, you have some serious problems with keeping up with the context of messages you're answering to. You were not answering to Jasai(?) there (which I also already told you on this or last page). > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1396596/#Comment_1396596 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you really aren't *intentionally* dodging what I write, maybe you actually don't understand what you read, who knows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My video is wvw gameplay you seem to want to pretend that thief is unused in wvw and lacks reset potential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and when **exactly** did I write anything like that? :D > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe u linked the wrong comments? cause no those links dont demonstrate what u claim as usual... > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1396689#Comment_1396689 > > > > > > > > > > They do actually. You say clones dont hit him, he points out that they do. You say you took significant damage, he points out you didnt. In general you posted a video showing the opposite of what you claimed it showed, got called out on it, and just doubled down on it. While being rather rude for someone who is wrong, too. > > > > > > > > Bruh 8k burst from stealth on full trailblazer is not significant damage? The thief was a pepega incapable of keeping up the pressure nor stealing, but the damage is there. > > > > > > > @"Terrorhuz.4695" said: > > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > > @"Moradorin.6217" said: > > > > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > > > > @"Moradorin.6217" said: > > > > > > > > In what way did I lie about what happens in the video? can you quote the "lie"? Mhmm... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Already did, but you were too busy spamming with "smoking crack". > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1399765/#Comment_1399765 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I responded to the thread to respond to Jasai's post when they said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lmao, you have some serious problems with keeping up with the context of messages you're answering to. You were not answering to Jasai(?) there (which I also already told you on this or last page). > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1396596/#Comment_1396596 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you really aren't *intentionally* dodging what I write, maybe you actually don't understand what you read, who knows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My video is wvw gameplay you seem to want to pretend that thief is unused in wvw and lacks reset potential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and when **exactly** did I write anything like that? :D > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe u linked the wrong comments? cause no those links dont demonstrate what u claim as usual... > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1396689#Comment_1396689 > > > > > > > > > > They do actually. You say clones dont hit him, he points out that they do. You say you took significant damage, he points out you didnt. In general you posted a video showing the opposite of what you claimed it showed, got called out on it, and just doubled down on it. While being rather rude for someone who is wrong, too. > > > > > > > > Bruh 8k burst from stealth on full trailblazer is not significant damage? The thief was a pepega incapable of keeping up the pressure nor stealing, but the damage is there. > > > > > > That wasnt 8k burst from stealth. That was 8k damage over 3 seconds in which the thief could freely attack as the Mesmer was too slow to do literally anything, including dodging. And yeah, 8k damage over 3 seconds of free attacks is not very significant. Burn Guardian would've killed him. Soulbeast dropped him to 30% hp at most. Holosmith probably somewhere inbetween. Meanwhile the thief did about a third of their health. Yeah, not great is it? Especially since thieves damage is entirely frontloaded, and their DPS is non-existent. > > > > ITT we gonna act as if permastealthing + blinds + lots of dodges didn't let daredevils ('cause those are the big offenders, thieves and deadeyes can't get away with that kitten 'cause no dash to save the day) turn everything into frontload damage until someone dies. > > Wait, what is this even supposed to mean? I mean lets ignore that Daredevil has below average dodges at this point (Since its literally just 1 extra dodge in the entire fight and some vigor), or that their blinds are usually expensive and require giving up damage, what are you even saying here? That thief can make everything into a "burst", even though its clearly not a burst? I dont get it. I mean... I wouldn't say it has *below average* dodges. But other than that, yeah. People like to pretend thief doesn't use anything for whatever they want to do: apparently there's no cd, no resources, everythings up all the time and the resource system totally doesn't "work against itself" in certain cituations (hi, 8ini bow 5). And lets not forget about the recent exchange in this thread: "*thief killed himself because he used skills while affected by confusion!*" ...but how was he supposed to stealth/disengage without using skills? *\*aaaaaaaaand he stopped answering, what a surprise \** :sleeping: Ok then. I feel this is also EXACTLY the reason why OP asks for the video of those complainers. To see they actually understand what they're talking about, because so many just don't. And that's also the very reason I'm calling out moradorin on his bullkitten, to which instead of addressing what I wrote, he keeps trying to tell me I imply something he didn't explicitly wrote. And when asked when I wrote it... he constantly drop the questions, because he has nothing to answer.

> @"anduriell.6280" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > and what about ranger/sb without pet while quite some of its skills/traits are normally benefiting from it > The pet is a terrible mechanic. What you may want from them is the weapon set (LB/GS) and the utility like stances or survival. None of them use the pet. It doesn't matter if you think it's terrible or not, it matters that it influences traits and skills and acts as a dmg/utility boost. Which is why I answered what I answered and why you decided to ignore what I wrote in place of saying that "pet is terrible, you don't want it", while at the same time claiming you'll have some ranger equivalent of pewpew and whatnot. >And the good thing is Thief will have always an spot in the squad as multiclass So you take a thief to a squad """so it can multiclass""" and then you count for what? That he'll steal some of the FB skills (without tomes btw) and he'll be anywhere near utility/usability as a regular FB you'd want in your squad instead? You claim "you can take x skills and quickly heal", how? With thief's power stats he brought with his base build? It's not nearly as useful as you try to make it seem to be. No scaling, no profession mechanics, no traits the build for built around in the first place. Squads will be better with "non-multiclass" picks that they know they need to fill in the team composition. It can be "fun on paper", sure, but that's a spec that you use 2 times, see how underwhelming it is in comparison to any other class/build and throw it in a bin. So... for me? *Thanks*, but *no thanks*. >But as i said, you use what you need and then drop it and get back to your thief utilities and mechanics. So while you have the 8s OWP effect on you you may be using an unload. This is an example you are pretty capable of saying something like "P/P is trash".... If that's what you want to do then: 1. you don't need to steal anything to cheese a high dmg skills 2. literally just play SB with lb instead of thief p/p to count you might steal a skill you need if you meet a correct class with corerct build/skill equipped so you can use it once. You want to be half of a class, then try playing SB without a pet (because "it's useless") and with half of the traits unequipped. Just, you know, to try how useful it would be. Actually just go throw that proposal in ranger forum: you ~~lose~~ swap class mechanic, so you no longer have that useless pet (YAY!) and you can steal some skills from other classes instead, but still without their stats and traits. You can even steal thief's signet to use it to boost your pewpew! :o

> @"Sol.6340" said: > Instead of attacking us, consider being sympathetic that one day we were able to login and play a game that we loved to play and the next, we were told we weren't a valued member of the game ecosystem. You're all missing the point. This is Mac players saying, we're part of the group that loves to play this game. We're stuck. Many of us can't afford to pay a subscription, or buy a PC or whatever to keep playing and we are (collectively) upset, disappointed, and angry. IF IT WAS A PC VERSION THAT WAS BEING DISCONTINUED WITH LITTLE TO NO WARNING, WOULDN'T YOU BE UPSET AS WELL? Multiple people asked you how are you being attacked after you claimed the same in your thread (where you were the one insulting others btw) and you didn't answer. Instead you came to another thread and still try to claim that saying things like "anet didn't do it to you, apple did" is somehow offensive towards you. It's not. And it's clearly you who's missing the point here. Blame apple about what they decided to do with products you buy and use. ...also there are ways around it that people keep posting on this forum as well.

> @"TheAgedGnome.7520" said: > > @"Cyninja.2954" said: > > The potions are sell-able for 50s each. You can sell any which you do not require and keep those you deem useful. > > If it were a random mob drop, that would be great; but for a BL chest item, its weaksauce. It's ok, you don't like the contents of the chests, you hoard the keys. This is what I do too. Just because it's useless to you or me doesn't mean it's useless to everyone. Sure, it would be better if the chest always offered us what we want, but it won't happen, so act accordingly and wait for the next swap :D

> @"lare.5129" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > Apple drops support for something you've used for 8 years and still want to use on your computer... and in response you're buying new mac instead of investing into something that doesn't cut itself off from devs. > in this allegory you suggest play another mmo game and forget old? What allegory? I literally didn't use any. And no, I'm not *suggesting anything*. As I said: you make your own choices, but try understanding those choices and stop misplacing the blame.

> @"Moradorin.6217" said: > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > @"Moradorin.6217" said: > > > > @"UNOwen.7132" said: > > > > > @"Moradorin.6217" said: > > > > > > @"Sobx.1758" said: > > > > > > > @"Moradorin.6217" said: > > > > > > > In what way did I lie about what happens in the video? can you quote the "lie"? Mhmm... > > > > > > > > > > > > Already did, but you were too busy spamming with "smoking crack". > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1399765/#Comment_1399765 > > > > > > > > > > > > >I responded to the thread to respond to Jasai's post when they said: > > > > > > > > > > > > lmao, you have some serious problems with keeping up with the context of messages you're answering to. You were not answering to Jasai(?) there (which I also already told you on this or last page). > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1396596/#Comment_1396596 > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you really aren't *intentionally* dodging what I write, maybe you actually don't understand what you read, who knows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My video is wvw gameplay you seem to want to pretend that thief is unused in wvw and lacks reset potential. > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and when **exactly** did I write anything like that? :D > > > > > > > > > > Maybe u linked the wrong comments? cause no those links dont demonstrate what u claim as usual... > > > > > > > > > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1396689#Comment_1396689 > > > > > > > > They do actually. You say clones dont hit him, he points out that they do. You say you took significant damage, he points out you didnt. In general you posted a video showing the opposite of what you claimed it showed, got called out on it, and just doubled down on it. While being rather rude for someone who is wrong, too. > > > > > > I claim the video shows high reset potential which it does, it shows a thief ambushing from stealth and stealthing again before my clones can reach them over and over. In general I posted a video that shows that, pretty clearly. You can also see the thief is able to move way out of my 600-900 range each time before stealth fades and we both know it can stealth again as soon as it likes. That IS exactly what I said they can do. > > > > That's not the only thing you wrote. I already explained it, try understanding what you read... and what you write, because apparently you don't. He even told you again what was false about what you wrote and somehow you still try to deny it. > > That's not all I said in the response you quoted either. Yes, it's not. Which is why I commented on parts that are false. Now you try to tell me it means I disagree with everything you said based on what? On parts I didn't even talk about? >Its all addressed. No, it's not. You keep repeating the same thing **without addressing what I actually wrote**, at the same time pretending I wrote things that I clearly didn't. And just like that you provide another proof of what I just said: >You seem to have wanted to make what I said into me saying _thief is OP_ **which I never did**. Tell me where **exactly** I wrote anything like that. When I commented on what you wrote, I meant exactly what I said. Stop making up things and pretending they're facts. Quote/link where I wrote that or stop pretending I've said something that I didn't. :sleeping: > I posted and said I think Thief works because it has high reset and that this high reset gives it what another person called _agency_. This gives the Thief the option to chose then and how to engage in fights most of the time and the option to leave fights alive most of the time. This is a pretty good advantage if you ask me. That is and was the point of my comments other than comments trying to refute accusations made by you and others which I feel are false or incorrect. You dont have to agree but you should go calling me a liar because you dont agree, I already told you multiple times what was false in your post and now so did UNOwen.You keep dodging facts. If that's not intentional, go re-read with understanding I guess.