ledernierrempart.6871 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 imagine WvW but without any boons. just to see how boons shaped the WvW scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 This would be interesting just to show how reliant people are on them atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > This would be interesting just to show how reliant people are on them atm Well Warrior sustain is pretty much reliant on generating might, so you'd see no Warriors that week lol. I think a better way of doing this though would be -95% boon duration week. That way classes that rely on +XYZ benefit when they receive a boon still get the benefit even if the boon just flashes for 1/8s. Another would be a -95% condi duration week :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledernierrempart.6871 Posted August 12, 2020 Author Share Posted August 12, 2020 > @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > > This would be interesting just to show how reliant people are on them atm > > Well Warrior sustain is pretty much reliant on generating might, so you'd see no Warriors that week lol. > > I think a better way of doing this though would be -95% boon duration week. That way classes that rely on +XYZ benefit when they receive a boon still get the benefit even if the boon just flashes for 1/8s. > > Another would be a -95% condi duration week :tongue: this will never be balanced. some builds will even become unplayable... or maybe not that much? it would be an interesting weekend to gather data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 > @"ledernierrempart.6871" said: > > @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > > > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > > > This would be interesting just to show how reliant people are on them atm > > > > Well Warrior sustain is pretty much reliant on generating might, so you'd see no Warriors that week lol. > > > > I think a better way of doing this though would be -95% boon duration week. That way classes that rely on +XYZ benefit when they receive a boon still get the benefit even if the boon just flashes for 1/8s. > > > > Another would be a -95% condi duration week :tongue: > > this will never be balanced. some builds will even become unplayable... or maybe not that much? it would be an interesting weekend to gather data. My point was to still let the condi or boon flash so that traits could still trigger but have no effect on combat themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash.9213 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Some meta builds can't watch everything at once, the only thing keeping me from freely pulling people out of their composition is either blowing it on some boon flak or having to hold it until I see a window or I've stolen enough of their boon line and they can maybe react to my positioning. Jumping people would be out of hand but there would be some wild open field stuff that would be worth seeing, but I think some locations on the maps should have weird adjustments that groups and squads would have to be alert to and maybe they can cycle through them over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God.2708 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 It would be approximately the same, except no one would be playing because stab is gone and no one wants to deal with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugglemonkey.8741 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 > @"ledernierrempart.6871" said: > > @"Lan Deathrider.5910" said: > > > @"Jugglemonkey.8741" said: > > > This would be interesting just to show how reliant people are on them atm > > > > Well Warrior sustain is pretty much reliant on generating might, so you'd see no Warriors that week lol. > > > > I think a better way of doing this though would be -95% boon duration week. That way classes that rely on +XYZ benefit when they receive a boon still get the benefit even if the boon just flashes for 1/8s. > > > > Another would be a -95% condi duration week :tongue: > > this will never be balanced. some builds will even become unplayable... or maybe not that much? it would be an interesting weekend to gather data. Oh yeah, I don't expect it to be. But if half the builds in common usage were unplayable, it would be pretty telling really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infusion.7149 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Learn to use a spellbreaker winds of disenchantment or bring more chronos with vicious expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspirine.6852 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Would a fight without stab be any fun at all? I kinda agree that the boonspam is crazy now, but getting caught in 100% CC will make people quit I think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Would be bad for player who abuse boons. I don't have any boons anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Thief would be apex predator again. And necro would not care (except speed rune would be dead). All the other classes would have to change utility to damage-modifiers and get some additional toughness to compensate the lack of protection. Effects like superspeed would be overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 How about making it a _no boons and no conditions_ week instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeceiverX.8361 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 > @"KrHome.1920" said: > Effects like superspeed would be overpowered. Let's be real here, superspeed already is OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy.6029 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Lag and Boons, the only true enemies left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroud.2307 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 What about this - Boon breaker event: A new trick becomes available for purchase (some form of currency required) that can be thrown at players similar to Target Painter. On hit it removes 4 - 6 Boons, and for a brief duration, let's say 10 seconds, no Boons can be applied. I'm sure many zergs would abuse the absolute hell out of it, but at least it wouldn't mean you'd be _completely_ unable to use Boons anywhere. Roaming and small scale you'd probably be fine except for those occasional encounters where someone chucks one at you and you're screwed for a few seconds. At least in zergs it would have some strategic value and would be interesting to see the impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laila Lightness.8742 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 But i need to corrupt ppls boons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 > @"SpellOfIniquity.1780" said: > What about this - Boon breaker event: > > A new trick becomes available for purchase (some form of currency required) that can be thrown at players similar to Target Painter. On hit it removes 4 - 6 Boons, and for a brief duration, let's say 10 seconds, no Boons can be applied. > > I'm sure many zergs would abuse the absolute hell out of it, but at least it wouldn't mean you'd be _completely_ unable to use Boons anywhere. Roaming and small scale you'd probably be fine except for those occasional encounters where someone chucks one at you and you're screwed for a few seconds. At least in zergs it would have some strategic value and would be interesting to see the impact. ... excuse me while I go find a gvg for no particular reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroud.2307 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > > @"SpellOfIniquity.1780" said: > > What about this - Boon breaker event: > > > > A new trick becomes available for purchase (some form of currency required) that can be thrown at players similar to Target Painter. On hit it removes 4 - 6 Boons, and for a brief duration, let's say 10 seconds, no Boons can be applied. > > > > I'm sure many zergs would abuse the absolute hell out of it, but at least it wouldn't mean you'd be _completely_ unable to use Boons anywhere. Roaming and small scale you'd probably be fine except for those occasional encounters where someone chucks one at you and you're screwed for a few seconds. At least in zergs it would have some strategic value and would be interesting to see the impact. > ... excuse me while I go find a gvg for no particular reason. > Hahaha, yeah that is true, it would be very easy to troll gvgs with this. Still, I think if an anti-Boon event were a thing, this would probably be one of the better options rather than just turning off Boons completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len.1879 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Boons are an integral part of the game. Especially while conditions as their counterpart are still in play, this suggestion makes relatively little sense. We already have huge problems with stability when the guards are not on their toes. You can expect WvW to be a giant pinball machine when stability is deactivated altogether. No, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zawn.9647 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 > @"Len.1879" said: > Boons are an integral part of the game. Especially while conditions as their counterpart are still in play, this suggestion makes relatively little sense. We already have huge problems with stability when the guards are not on their toes. You can expect WvW to be a giant pinball machine when stability is deactivated altogether. No, thanks. As downstate is and yet there's a no downstate week every now and then. It's not like the OP is asking to remove boons from the game. 1 week won't kill you, I promise. You would be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunkamania.7561 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Bad idea. no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaba.5410 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 > @"Fueki.4753" said: > How about making it a _no boons and no conditions_ week instead? Yes! Power builds pirate ship week with larger map caps since all the missing "over time" calculations won't drag server performance down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talindra.4958 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Oh......This is like having lunch without food. Mmm.. are you hungry. Here's your lunch -- an empty plate.. enjoy :p itadakimasu.. bon appetite. I'll be doing pve on that week haha Or try few ecto gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomos.7593 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 These would be pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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