Every skill AOE?

[masskillerxploit.2165]

literally every skill in the game is AoE. What happened anet?

[shadowpass.4236]

lol why is this so true

[masskillerxploit.2165]

single target skills literally do not exist in Guild Wars 2 anymore XD. Even thieves got their daggers to hit up to 2-3 targets rather than 1 target.

[masskillerxploit.2165]

> @shadowpass.4236 said:

> lol why is this so true

 

Even skills that dont spread out like a melee hit or AoE field.. they pierce and hit other targets behind it. ANET WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING.

[Kraitan.8476]

This realization made me sad.

[masskillerxploit.2165]

> @Kraitan.8476 said:

> This realization made me sad.

Guild Wars 2: EVERYONE GETS GOD LIKE SKILLS. YOU ARE NOW THE NEW GODS OF GUILD WARS.

[Ithilwen.1529]

For this very reason, I suggested a week or so ago that AOE be reduced. Skills ought to be single target and should cost something to use. With the "ammunition" mechanic almost every class can spam skills as though they had continuum split.

[NotASmurf.1725]

Just another case of Anet going overboard with the PvE design. In GW1 most classes had bad cleave so they became bad in PvE. With the much more limited number of skills in GW2 anet made sure everything is AoE.

[Reaper Alim.4176]

> @NotASmurf.1725 said:

> Just another case of Anet going overboard with the PvE design. In GW1 most classes had bad cleave so they became bad in PvE. With the much more limited number of skills in GW2 anet made sure everything is AoE.

 

I have to agree with you. Remember this game's balance and orientation is PvE all the way. PvP and WvW are not even side attractions at this point in time. They are modes just there because ANet made those two modes at release.

 

But this is no reason to be mad in my eyes. Afterall it's just a PvE title, with player versus player interactions as a afterthought if not less.

[zinkz.7045]

> @"Reaper Alim.4176" said:

> > @NotASmurf.1725 said:

> > Just another case of Anet going overboard with the PvE design. In GW1 most classes had bad cleave so they became bad in PvE. With the much more limited number of skills in GW2 anet made sure everything is AoE.

>

> I have to agree with you. Remember this game's balance and orientation is PvE all the way. PvP and WvW are not even side attractions at this point in time. They are modes just there because ANet made those two modes at release.

>

> But this is no reason to be mad in my eyes. Afterall it's just a PvE title, with player versus player interactions as a afterthought if not less.

 

You must be new, the game was designed around PvP, there was a video by Sacrx (a WvW player) who was on the testing program the gist of it was when it came to class/skills/mechanics it was all about what Teldo & Co thought (players in PvP teams) and WvW/PvE testers were largely ignored in that regard, then once the game launched the devs did a Twitch livestream every time there was a balance patch (which back then was far more often) and each time 90-100% of changes would be in relation to PvP, then for 3 years they balanced virtually entirely around PvP, it was only when they decided to add raids that PvE started getting meaningful balance consideration (WvW has largely been ignored for 5 years).

[Highlie.7641]

It's not just Aoe's either, look at the amount of channeling shit they have now. First most channels where dodgeable with a 3/4 evade skills (like old flanking strike) you would still take 1/4 damage from skills like rapid fire even with a perfect use of FS. Now that they swapped that to 1/2, you lose 3/4 of your life. Then they keep adding more and more channel abilities.

 

I ran into a ranger the other day whos whole rotation was (rapid fire, Smoke scale, Bristle back, Beast mode Bristleback Or smoke scale beast mode, rapid fire, repeat forever) Talk about retarded game design. Since he had haste, Stealth was completly negated (What a useless defense anyway) And Also Evades where negated.

 

Ranger's aren't even OP, i'm just using them as an example of bad design.

[Razor.6392]

Low cooldown, aoe, low channel time or instant, multi-hitting so you need more than 1 dodge, evade frames, cc.

 

It's about loading individual abilities with as much offensive traits as you can.

[xDudisx.5914]

When thief dagger used to hit only 1 target people complained that things like pets, minion and clones were taking their hit and saving the player

[maddoctor.2738]

> @NotASmurf.1725 said:

> With the much more limited number of skills in GW2 anet made sure everything is AoE.

 

This is a myth that has been going on usually by GW1 veterans. At this point in time GW1 has 1319 skills total, while GW2 has 1346 so basically after Path of Fire GW2 surpassed GW1 in the number of skills. So the ages old argument of the developers "we have less skills in GW2 than GW1 so it's easier to balance" is no longer valid.

And it's going to get worse and worse as new elite specs are introduced in future expansions

[Azure The Heartless.3261]

I'm okay with AoE. It forces you to not only pay attention to your opponent but also your immediate surroundings.

It also allows things to hit stealth-utilizing classes, like Thieves, Mesmers, Druids, and Engineers without having adds take all of the damage just for existing.

[Lighter.5631]

> @masskillerxploit.2165 said:

> literally every skill in the game is AoE. What happened anet?

 

you are two years late, druid, scrapper, chrono, dh, herald has lot of aoe too not to mention tempest