mcarswell.3768 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 So apparently the permanent mistlock pass returned for yesterday's sale, which I just found out about today browsing reddit. Been waiting for it for months and they only put it out for one day?? I'd gladly pay the full 1k gems...why not just have it available all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greener.6204 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 All of the March sales have been one-day sales; it's how they motivate players to habitually log-in and stay informed. Start up a conversation with Support to see if anything can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumouta.4985 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 i was waiting for it as well but didn't check the gemstore yesterday rip having it up for one day is stupid, i'll just not buy anything now. This is a bit TOO much 'artificial scarcity' imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"mcarswell.3768" said: > So apparently the permanent mistlock pass returned for yesterday's sale, which I just found out about today browsing reddit. Been waiting for it for months and they only put it out for one day?? I'd gladly pay the full 1k gems...why not just have it available all the time? > It was discounted for one day. I'm sure it will appear again. Artificial scarcity is commonly used by ANet (among many, many other companies) to help drive demand. You have two options for keeping track, without depending on Reddit: * Visit [this page](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/458/news-gemstore-items-new-returned-sales/) daily; it will always include whatever has been added/removed/discounted * Use GW2 timer to "set an alarm": http://gw2timer.com/?page=Account§ion=Gem The first link is usually updated shortly after 9 am Pacific time, which is shortly after the gem shop offering change. I'm not sure when gw2timer is updated, but it's also refreshed 1x/day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineManXX.9746 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I was also waiting for it to show up, and you know what? I bought it! To the above posters, I would think that if you were "waiting for it for months" you might consider checking in daily when there are daily 24 hour long sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I try to intentionally not buy stuff that is only there for 1-3 days or something like that. These short sales are just stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alga.6498 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 > @"mcarswell.3768" said: > So apparently the permanent mistlock pass returned for yesterday's sale, which I just found out about today browsing reddit. Been waiting for it for months and they only put it out for one day?? I'd gladly pay the full 1k gems...why not just have it available all the time? > If you write a ticket to support and tell them what's going on, since it has only been a few hours since the Mistlock pass went poff again and they will exchange with the same amount of gems for the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Ouch, sorry for your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Gaile Gray.6029 Posted March 22, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted March 22, 2018 I noted that two people suggested that players write Customer Support to ask them to make an item available outside of its sales rotation. I'm not a CS agent, but I strongly believe that CS cannot make things available to individual players. The rotation is set by a different team, and CS doesn't have the ability to conduct transactions like Gem Store sales. I mean, think about it -- would you mail an agent gold to buy something? You can't transfer gems, so... it just doesn't seem it would work at all. (I'll verify, but feel certain the above is true.) To the OP (and any others who missed items on sale: I'm really sorry if you missed something you wanted. I did too! :( However, items are on a rotation, and using the links the IWN suggested above, you should be able to set yourself up for success with the next go-'round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echoherb.6528 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I was told by someone in one of the guilds i'm in, also map chat was talking about it too. I probably would have missed it too otherwise. I doubt anet wants a ton of people with the pass so I can understand why it's not on the shop for long. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do at this point so just wait for the next one and count it as a lesson to always check the shop when you log in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanek.5983 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Gaile Gray.6029" said: > I noted that two people suggested that players write Customer Support to ask them to make an item available outside of its sales rotation. I'm not a CS agent, but I strongly believe that CS cannot make things available to individual players. The rotation is set by a different team, and CS doesn't have the ability to conduct transactions like Gem Store sales. I mean, think about it -- would you mail an agent gold to buy something? You can't transfer gems, so... it just doesn't seem it would work at all. (I'll verify, but feel certain the above is true.) > > To the OP (and any others who missed items on sale: I'm really sorry if you missed something you wanted. I did too! :( However, items are on a rotation, and using the links the IWN suggested above, you should be able to set yourself up for success with the next go-'round. And if it happens to be a day you are not able to log in, you miss out anyway. I like the idea of sales and I even like having things in and out of rotation in the store. But I'd probably side with people here saying one day is a bit too short. Not as bad as sites that put up sales for a few hours, but still. It can turn what should be a good month of opportunities into a disappointment that stays with you when you miss the one item you really want just because you were away from the game for one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usnedward.9023 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I got mine today after passing it up a few times. too bad we couldn't trade in old ones for credit :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Gaile Gray.6029" said: > I noted that two people suggested that players write Customer Support to ask them to make an item available outside of its sales rotation. I'm not a CS agent, but I strongly believe that CS cannot make things available to individual players. The rotation is set by a different team, and CS doesn't have the ability to conduct transactions like Gem Store sales. I mean, think about it -- would you mail an agent gold to buy something? You can't transfer gems, so... it just doesn't seem it would work at all. (I'll verify, but feel certain the above is true.) > > To the OP (and any others who missed items on sale: I'm really sorry if you missed something you wanted. I did too! :( However, items are on a rotation, and using the links the IWN suggested above, you should be able to set yourself up for success with the next go-'round. CS have done it for me in the past, fyi They told me to add gems to my account and theyd dedeuct it and send me the item, which they did. I was v happy with the service. Of course i then found out i already owned the item and i hadnt searched my bank properly ( i chose not to bother cs tho as it was my stupidity) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrin.1035 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > @"mcarswell.3768" said: > > So apparently the permanent mistlock pass returned for yesterday's sale, which I just found out about today browsing reddit. Been waiting for it for months and they only put it out for one day?? I'd gladly pay the full 1k gems...why not just have it available all the time? > > > > It was discounted for one day. I'm sure it will appear again. > Artificial scarcity is commonly used by ANet (among many, many other companies) to help drive demand. > > You have two options for keeping track, without depending on Reddit: > * Visit [this page](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/458/news-gemstore-items-new-returned-sales/) daily; it will always include whatever has been added/removed/discounted > * Use GW2 timer to "set an alarm": http://gw2timer.com/?page=Account§ion=Gem > > The first link is usually updated shortly after 9 am Pacific time, which is shortly after the gem shop offering change. I'm not sure when gw2timer is updated, but it's also refreshed 1x/day. Yes. And after you have this OP, you only have to wait about a year or two until it comes back. By which you probably won't have interest in it anymore or something better will have come along and replaced it. It's almost as respectful to the players as loot boxes and falsely advertising mount skins as actual mounts :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Sure, its not nice, but I’ve missed deals and sales in reallife as well. My gym had a ‘sign up and get 2 months free’ two days before I went to sign up. It stings, but its reallife :( and you can only learn to live with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrequentia.3465 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Cyrin.1035" said: > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > > @"mcarswell.3768" said: > > > So apparently the permanent mistlock pass returned for yesterday's sale, which I just found out about today browsing reddit. Been waiting for it for months and they only put it out for one day?? I'd gladly pay the full 1k gems...why not just have it available all the time? > > > > > > > It was discounted for one day. I'm sure it will appear again. > > Artificial scarcity is commonly used by ANet (among many, many other companies) to help drive demand. > > > > You have two options for keeping track, without depending on Reddit: > > * Visit [this page](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/458/news-gemstore-items-new-returned-sales/) daily; it will always include whatever has been added/removed/discounted > > * Use GW2 timer to "set an alarm": http://gw2timer.com/?page=Account§ion=Gem > > > > The first link is usually updated shortly after 9 am Pacific time, which is shortly after the gem shop offering change. I'm not sure when gw2timer is updated, but it's also refreshed 1x/day. > > Yes. And after you have this OP, you only have to wait about year or two until it comes back. By which you probably won't have interest in it anymore or something better will have come along and replaced it. It's almost as respectful to the players as loot boxes and falsely advertising mount skins as actual mounts :) who advertised mount skins as mounts? cause all Anets advertisements have said Skins and the items themself say that you do need to unlock the mounts first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Cyrin.1035" said: > Yes. And after you have this OP, you only have to wait about year or two until it comes back. Not true in this particular case. The Mistlock pass comes out much more frequently. > By which you probably won't have interest in it anymore or something better will have come along and replaced it. That is among the downsides of artificial scarcity. > It's almost as respectful to the players It's got little to do with respect or lack thereof. Making all items available all the time has its own downsides, both for ANet and for players. > falsely advertising mount skins as actual mounts :) Which they never did. The issue was that they advertised the Mountfits in a manner which allowed a misunderstanding, from people unfamiliar with the mechanics, to think that the mount was included. It was poor phrasing, not intentional. And it got fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrin.1035 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"infrequentia.3465" said: > > @"Cyrin.1035" said: > > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > > > @"mcarswell.3768" said: > > > > So apparently the permanent mistlock pass returned for yesterday's sale, which I just found out about today browsing reddit. Been waiting for it for months and they only put it out for one day?? I'd gladly pay the full 1k gems...why not just have it available all the time? > > > > > > > > > > It was discounted for one day. I'm sure it will appear again. > > > Artificial scarcity is commonly used by ANet (among many, many other companies) to help drive demand. > > > > > > You have two options for keeping track, without depending on Reddit: > > > * Visit [this page](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/458/news-gemstore-items-new-returned-sales/) daily; it will always include whatever has been added/removed/discounted > > > * Use GW2 timer to "set an alarm": http://gw2timer.com/?page=Account§ion=Gem > > > > > > The first link is usually updated shortly after 9 am Pacific time, which is shortly after the gem shop offering change. I'm not sure when gw2timer is updated, but it's also refreshed 1x/day. > > > > Yes. And after you have this OP, you only have to wait about year or two until it comes back. By which you probably won't have interest in it anymore or something better will have come along and replaced it. It's almost as respectful to the players as loot boxes and falsely advertising mount skins as actual mounts :) ` "who advertised mount skins as mounts?"` https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/14711/might-want-to-clarify-mount-skins#latest ` "cause all Anets advertisements have said Skins and the items themself say that you do need to unlock the mounts first"` This is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrequentia.3465 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Cyrin.1035" said: > > @"infrequentia.3465" said: > > > @"Cyrin.1035" said: > > > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > > > > @"mcarswell.3768" said: > > > > > So apparently the permanent mistlock pass returned for yesterday's sale, which I just found out about today browsing reddit. Been waiting for it for months and they only put it out for one day?? I'd gladly pay the full 1k gems...why not just have it available all the time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was discounted for one day. I'm sure it will appear again. > > > > Artificial scarcity is commonly used by ANet (among many, many other companies) to help drive demand. > > > > > > > > You have two options for keeping track, without depending on Reddit: > > > > * Visit [this page](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/458/news-gemstore-items-new-returned-sales/) daily; it will always include whatever has been added/removed/discounted > > > > * Use GW2 timer to "set an alarm": http://gw2timer.com/?page=Account§ion=Gem > > > > > > > > The first link is usually updated shortly after 9 am Pacific time, which is shortly after the gem shop offering change. I'm not sure when gw2timer is updated, but it's also refreshed 1x/day. > > > > > > Yes. And after you have this OP, you only have to wait about year or two until it comes back. By which you probably won't have interest in it anymore or something better will have come along and replaced it. It's almost as respectful to the players as loot boxes and falsely advertising mount skins as actual mounts :) > > > ` "who advertised mount skins as mounts?"` > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/14711/might-want-to-clarify-mount-skins#latest > > ` "cause all Anets advertisements have said Skins and the items themself say that you do need to unlock the mounts first"` > > This is incorrect. https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/happy-wintersday-from-the-black-lion-trading-company/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/page/6/ https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/dress-up-your-mounts-for-halloween/ Oh boy they say SKINS or or COSTUMES yup sure is incorrect on my part to Read that as false and i really thing it just gave me the mounts themself poor me for not able to read right.... OH WAIT i did read that right . oh and did you read the time stamps? they predate your topic. so you can't say they where changed afterwards. if you try to be a smart ass be smart and not an ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Gaile Gray.6029 Posted March 22, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Cyrin.1035" said: > > @"infrequentia.3465" said: > > > @"Cyrin.1035" said: > > > > @"Illconceived Was Na.9781" said: > > > > > @"mcarswell.3768" said: > > > > > So apparently the permanent mistlock pass returned for yesterday's sale, which I just found out about today browsing reddit. Been waiting for it for months and they only put it out for one day?? I'd gladly pay the full 1k gems...why not just have it available all the time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was discounted for one day. I'm sure it will appear again. > > > > Artificial scarcity is commonly used by ANet (among many, many other companies) to help drive demand. > > > > > > > > You have two options for keeping track, without depending on Reddit: > > > > * Visit [this page](https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/458/news-gemstore-items-new-returned-sales/) daily; it will always include whatever has been added/removed/discounted > > > > * Use GW2 timer to "set an alarm": http://gw2timer.com/?page=Account§ion=Gem > > > > > > > > The first link is usually updated shortly after 9 am Pacific time, which is shortly after the gem shop offering change. I'm not sure when gw2timer is updated, but it's also refreshed 1x/day. > > > > > > Yes. And after you have this OP, you only have to wait about year or two until it comes back. By which you probably won't have interest in it anymore or something better will have come along and replaced it. It's almost as respectful to the players as loot boxes and falsely advertising mount skins as actual mounts :) > > > ` "who advertised mount skins as mounts?"` > > https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/14711/might-want-to-clarify-mount-skins#latest > > ` "cause all Anets advertisements have said Skins and the items themself say that you do need to unlock the mounts first"` > > This is incorrect. This? Again? And from you? If you will please read the entire thread you linked -- rather than the single post to which you linked -- you'll note that (1) it was clearly explained before anyone could complete a purchase and (2) even the introductory wording was refreshed to include "Mount" in the verbiage. This is what **you** suggested at the time, Cyrin, and that is precisely what we did. At this point, you should stop with the "false advertising" bunk. Request/demand made -- fulfilled -- the end. When *you saw the express item description **twice** before you could purchase it*, and when we did make it clear *in every single reference* as soon as we saw the feedback, even in the intro through which you cannot directly purchase, you have no grounds to continue to beat this expired stallion, mare, bronco, or gelding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Gaile Gray.6029 Posted March 22, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Gaile Gray.6029" said: > I noted that two people suggested that players write Customer Support to ask them to make an item available outside of its sales rotation. I'm not a CS agent, but I strongly believe that CS cannot make things available to individual players. The rotation is set by a different team, and CS doesn't have the ability to conduct transactions like Gem Store sales. I mean, think about it -- would you mail an agent gold to buy something? You can't transfer gems, so... it just doesn't seem it would work at all. (I'll verify, but feel certain the above is true.) > > To the OP (and any others who missed items on sale: I'm really sorry if you missed something you wanted. I did too! :( However, items are on a rotation, and using the links the IWN suggested above, you should be able to set yourself up for success with the next go-'round. As I mentioned, I spoke with CS this morning, and they do not have a means of fulfilling purchases for gem store items, so for this sale, as for others, they would need to decline the request. However, as I believe forum members would be aware, if someone made a purchase within a close timeframe to when something went on sale, CS would try to help them get the sale price. Each case is individual, but each will be reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrubySzymek.1362 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Gaile Gray.6029" said: > I noted that two people suggested that players write Customer Support to ask them to make an item available outside of its sales rotation. I'm not a CS agent, but I strongly believe that CS cannot make things available to individual players. The rotation is set by a different team, and CS doesn't have the ability to conduct transactions like Gem Store sales. I mean, think about it -- would you mail an agent gold to buy something? You can't transfer gems, so... it just doesn't seem it would work at all. (I'll verify, but feel certain the above is true.) > > To the OP (and any others who missed items on sale: I'm really sorry if you missed something you wanted. I did too! :( However, items are on a rotation, and using the links the IWN suggested above, you should be able to set yourself up for success with the next go-'round. Hey, have you considered some sort of wishlist/newsletter messages for gemstore sales? Especially for items that come for one day only. I have mistlock pass myself but I feel like I'd appreciate such thing for other options in the gemstore. I don't check it every day for new promotions but I definitely check my email every few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > Hey, have you considered some sort of wishlist/newsletter messages for gemstore sales? Especially for items that come for one day only. I have mistlock pass myself but I feel like I'd appreciate such thing for other options in the gemstore. I don't check it every day for new promotions but I definitely check my email every few hours. I would like this, too, but I believe it would defeat the purpose of the sales which is to get players to actively log in (even though items are posted on the wiki after they come available). /me shrugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArenaNet Staff Gaile Gray.6029 Posted March 22, 2018 ArenaNet Staff Share Posted March 22, 2018 > @"Kheldorn.5123" said: > Hey, have you considered some sort of wishlist/newsletter messages for gemstore sales? Especially for items that come for one day only. I have mistlock pass myself but I feel like I'd appreciate such thing for other options in the gemstore. I don't check it every day for new promotions but I definitely check my email every few hours. I will ask about that. I've not heard it mentioned, and I think sending e-mails every day for sales would be not well received, but I'll ask about using e-mail to in some way make players aware of opportunities. Thanks for the suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Master.4169 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I'd buy it but missed it... :disappointed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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