zealex.9410 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Iirc necromancy and golemancy were 2 studies that go hand to hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 > @"Scud.5067" said: > Two brothers, one fused with the body of a machine, the other a bit of a jerk. > > Isn't it a homage to Full Metal Alchemist? I'm not a raging fan, just saw the series. That's what I thought too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I don't see anything unpleasant or disturbing about someone transferring their consciousness to a machine. Heck, I hope to be able to do so myself in a few decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardid.7203 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 IMO it is disturbing. But disturbing is good. It means you need to know it, evaluate it, create reasons and values to make it part of your vision of the world. Disturbing is your brain acknowledging there is something you have not thought about, something that can affect you and feed you with more possibilities, good, bad or both. Personally I've though of it enough to recognize the "cyborgs" are coming soon, and they WILL BE PEOPLE. That is enough to make you dream of immortality, flight and space travel, and have all kinds of machine related nightmares. We don't need to like it, but we need to be aware and prepare. Its going to be normal for our descendants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liewec.2896 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 you say it is disturbing, meanwhile i'm jealous! if you could out your consciousness in a machine, you never need to die. ;) organic bodies are so flawed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substance E.4852 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 What will really activate your almonds is the idea that he's actually a transcribed duplicate of Blish's mind and the real Blish is very much dead. Taimi and Beetleboy are basically hanging out with a golem LARPing as their dead friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 > @"Substance E.4852" said: > What will really activate your almonds is the idea that he's actually a transcribed duplicate of Blish's mind and the real Blish is very much dead. > > Taimi and Beetleboy are basically hanging out with a golem LARPing as their dead friend. Except that the Golem himself is 110% convinced that he is Blish. It goes well beyond LARPing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foozlesprite.8051 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I think I'm in the minority here, but I never even considered that some people _would_ feel weird about it. Bodies suck, and while machines get messed up too, they're usually a lot easier to fix. It's hinted at that he might have been suffering from a physical disability like Taimi does, and let me tell you, my friends with disabilities and/or chronic pain and fatigue are the ones that are _already_ totally into the idea of transferring their consciousness into a machine. That being said, I can see upon reflection why someone would be squicked by that concept. They said that in early drafts they had Taimi playing a part similar to both Blish and Gorrik. I can't think of how that would have worked out, but I would be interested to see a sketch of that scenario! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 > @"foozlesprite.8051" said: > I think I'm in the minority here, but I never even considered that some people _would_ feel weird about it. Bodies suck, and while machines get messed up too, they're usually a lot easier to fix. It's hinted at that he might have been suffering from a physical disability like Taimi does, and let me tell you, my friends with disabilities and/or chronic pain and fatigue are the ones that are _already_ totally into the idea of transferring their consciousness into a machine. > > That being said, I can see upon reflection why someone would be squicked by that concept. They said that in early drafts they had Taimi playing a part similar to both Blish and Gorrik. I can't think of how that would have worked out, but I would be interested to see a sketch of that scenario! Considering the nature of the trope, they would be doing it wrong if it didn't rub people the wrong way. It is _meant_ to do that. It is sort of the pont, y'know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > It makes me feel...strange and it feels disturbing, binding a living being to a machine feels extremely unethical for a "good guy", even in a videogame. It’s something very similar to Exalted, however much more technical. Replace magical ritual to magical technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oglaf.1074 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 > @"Tyson.5160" said: > > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > It makes me feel...strange and it feels disturbing, binding a living being to a machine feels extremely unethical for a "good guy", even in a videogame. > > It’s something very similar to Exalted, however much more technical. Replace magical ritual to magical technology. There is very little difference between Asura technology and "actual" magic when you think about it. Since magic is literally everywhere in the GW universe, an Asura "scientist" applies the "laws of magic" to get the desired effect like an IRL scientist does the "laws of nature/physics". Basically it is magic disguised as sci-fieqsue technology. "Magipunk" if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggy Biscuit.9372 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I have a feeling he will eventually get killed or turn evil or something anyway. At the start of the recent episode where he got caught and saw things felt uncomfortably sentimental with sad piano music and the player character sounding oddly solemn, although I only played it on a female asura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson.5160 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 > @"Soggy Biscuit.9372" said: > I have a feeling he will eventually get killed or turn evil or something anyway. At the start of the recent episode where he got caught and saw things felt uncomfortably sentimental with sad piano music and the player character sounding oddly solemn, although I only played it on a female asura. Oh no, are you thinking like Ultron style plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saloja.7920 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 > @"Zedek.8932" said: > I wish I could join the Inquest! Careful! That's the common romantisized feeling like "I want to live in a cyberpunk future" or "I want to live in the middle ages with knights and princesses" but in all actuality, you most likely would not :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Oh yeah! ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauChann.3081 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Blish is a fine character, I just wish they had kinda, talked about him more in previous seasons so we could familiarize ourselves with Taimi's backstory a bit more and perhaps get a feel for Taimi's need to see Blish again.. Blish after all means a lot for Taimi, why didn't we hear about him more often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo.4705 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I think it's because of that thread that blish have been killed..... that's really sad he deserved better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 it's like he has a prostetic arm for his entire body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlord.9082 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 > @"Vavume.8065" said: > Fusing man and machine is an old concept, the six million dollar Bionic man never complained about it, in fact I think most kids at the time wanted to grow up to be the Bionic man, I know I did. Robocop was cool too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pifil.5193 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 > @"hugo.4705" said: > I think it's because of that thread that blish have been killed..... that's really sad he deserved better. I don't think a single thread with a handful of posts could kill a character (assuming we don't find and reboot him again) If it was then every character in the story would have been killed a dozen times over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robj.6815 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > It makes me feel...strange and it feels disturbing, binding a living being to a machine feels extremely unethical for a "good guy", even in a videogame. So....no medical treatment allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derd.6413 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 > @"Robj.6815" said: > > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > It makes me feel...strange and it feels disturbing, binding a living being to a machine feels extremely unethical for a "good guy", even in a videogame. > > So....no medical treatment allowed? only things like pace makers and mechanical prostetics aren't allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaraki.5784 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 > @"Robj.6815" said: > > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > It makes me feel...strange and it feels disturbing, binding a living being to a machine feels extremely unethical for a "good guy", even in a videogame. > > So....no medical treatment allowed? To conserve your body? Sure. To conserve your, "Soul" in another vessel? No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > @"Robj.6815" said: > > > @"Zaraki.5784" said: > > > It makes me feel...strange and it feels disturbing, binding a living being to a machine feels extremely unethical for a "good guy", even in a videogame. > > > > So....no medical treatment allowed? > > To conserve your body? Sure. > To conserve your, "Soul" in another vessel? No! Too bad souls do not exist, living beings are just organic machines. Thus turning an organic machine into an anorganic machine is entirely ethical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mea.5491 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I think it's awesome and interesting and the same thing will happen to _-beep-_ too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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