DanAlcedo.3281 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hi! My theory is that Aurene knew she would die, so she gave Caithe her "role" in the All. Caithe is the new Kormir. She is a Dragon Minion. She will be the next Elder "Dragon". Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zavve.8205 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I still don't understand why Caith gets to have such a connection to Aurene over us. idk im just hoping that Caith will give her life somehow to bring Aurene back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 this or second comment, more likely the second one.... its a big kitten cliffhanger anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOddOne.4387 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I was getting more and more annoyed throughout the episode thinking "Really? THIS is all we needed?" And then my hope was restored. Though a certain God's image appearing above Kralkatorrik during his charge up made me really kitten suspicious that ArenaNet has forgotten their own lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 > @"ThatOddOne.4387" said: > Though a certain God's image appearing above Kralkatorrik during his charge up made me really kitten suspicious that ArenaNet has forgotten their own lore. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOddOne.4387 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Unless they go the route that Balthazar was still a supremely powerful magical being without being a God and clearly state that, then it would imply that Kralkatorrik has Divine magic given its significant enough for his image to stand separate to both Mordremoth's and Zhaitan's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 it was so obvious that he wasnt dead, and just playing his hp bar was at like 30-40% when i got the cutscene, BS falling for that newbtrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Frogeater.1470 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I don't have Path of Fire so what happened exactly? Did Balthazar hijack Kralkatorrik and kill Aurene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugrakarma.9416 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 > @"Mickey Frogeater.1470" said: > I don't have Path of Fire so what happened exactly? Did Balthazar hijack Kralkatorrik and kill Aurene? in Path of Fire? if PoF we killed Balthazar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Frogeater.1470 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 > @"ugrakarma.9416" said: > > @"Mickey Frogeater.1470" said: > > I don't have Path of Fire so what happened exactly? Did Balthazar hijack Kralkatorrik and kill Aurene? > > in Path of Fire? if PoF we killed Balthazar. We destroyed his body and his essence was absorbed by Aurene and Kralkatorrik. Despite this let's not forget that Dhuum was able to be reduced to energy and could not be killed. Furthermore Kormir specifically stated that the reason she never became Abaddon was because his will was broken which meant that if his will was stronger he could have taken over her. Kralkatorrik does not seem like something that has a strong will... Especially not on the level of his Scion Glint nor her children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOddOne.4387 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 If Balthazar was really "in control" of Kralkatorrik then he'd be off hunting down the Gods not fighting us, since that was Balthazar's stated goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 > @"Mickey Frogeater.1470" said: > > @"ugrakarma.9416" said: > > > @"Mickey Frogeater.1470" said: > > > I don't have Path of Fire so what happened exactly? Did Balthazar hijack Kralkatorrik and kill Aurene? > > > > in Path of Fire? if PoF we killed Balthazar. > > We destroyed his body and his essence was absorbed by Aurene and Kralkatorrik. Despite this let's not forget that Dhuum was able to be reduced to energy and could not be killed. Furthermore Kormir specifically stated that the reason she never became Abaddon was because his will was broken which meant that if his will was stronger he could have taken over her. > > Kralkatorrik does not seem like something that has a strong will... Especially not on the level of his Scion Glint nor her children. kralk played dead and some stones hit the PC, then aurene walked close to him. he attacked us and she jumped in front of us and got impaled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugrakarma.9416 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 it will be very lore-breaking to assume that absorbing magic (and even more so only partial magic) = take over the mind. I believe that such a "face" of balthazar has merely illustrative intent, to remember that the Elder Dragon has its powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbru.6014 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 > @"ThatOddOne.4387" said: > Unless they go the route that Balthazar was still a supremely powerful magical being without being a God... That's exactly what he was. Just like Dhuum, he was still a very powerful being to be sure, but a far cry from what he used to be as a full powered god. Which is probably a good thing, otherwise #1 we might not have been able to beat him; #2 if we had beaten him in such a state, Vabbi likely would be a smoking crater lined with our bones right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Whitemoon.6173 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 i may have an idea about what he ment with why balthazar was shown, balthazr had magic from the bloodstones and the machine, not his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Ansari.1604 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 > @"ThatOddOne.4387" said: > Unless they go the route that Balthazar was still a supremely powerful magical being without being a God Well, do remember that he soaked up the entirety of a magical blast that an NPC said could've annihilated half a continent. The scale wasn't anywhere near what Abaddon's death apparently unleashed, but all the same, the Bloodstone unleashed enough energy to make the Searing and the Cataclysm put together look small. That might've been enough to at least be equivalent to what an Elder Dragon is carrying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Godrik.5841 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Caithe is the "voice" of aureen. She can only speak to lesser beings thru her. Since we are her champion she can speak to us directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBroChill.3254 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 > @"Mickey Frogeater.1470" said: > > Kralkatorrik does not seem like something that has a strong will... Especially not on the level of his Scion Glint nor her children. Actually somewhere in the new chapter I'm pretty sure Glint or something said his will and determination are unmatchable or something like that, mainly because of his strong fear of being killed due to his vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcemus.1348 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 > @"Aaron Ansari.1604" said: > > @"ThatOddOne.4387" said: > > Unless they go the route that Balthazar was still a supremely powerful magical being without being a God > > Well, do remember that he soaked up the entirety of a magical blast that an NPC said could've annihilated half a continent. The scale wasn't anywhere near what Abaddon's death apparently unleashed, but all the same, the Bloodstone unleashed enough energy to make the Searing and the Cataclysm put together look small. That might've been enough to at least be equivalent to what an Elder Dragon is carrying around. The showing of Balthazar during that blast may also have something to do with the idea that after Balthazar had consumed all of that magic, especially Jormag and Primordus (who are not shown) he converted it to whatever he wanted to use, which took the appearance of Balthazar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeWolfe.2174 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 > @"Zavve.8205" said: > I still don't understand why Caith gets to have such a connection to Aurene over us. > idk im just hoping that Caith will give her life somehow to bring Aurene back. Episode after episode, for 3 years, and we still barely have a relationship with Aurene. We're supposed to have a psychic bond with Aurene that's never explored. Whenever we see Aurene we're cold as kitten to her and just bark orders at her. Now, the dev's reduce our bond by bringing Caithe into this episode. The whole thing annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusanyu.4057 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Balth shows up[ simply becouse he has a good chunk of his power the other two orbs represented Mordy and Zhitan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola.6197 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Honestly I’ll be disappointed if the plan is for Caithe to just die. Her entire life will have been tragedy and sacrifice for others. I suppose it’ll match the rest of her character journey, but still. What a let down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bast.7253 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 > @"Svennis.3852" said: > Honestly I’ll be disappointed if the plan is for Caithe to just die. Her entire life will have been tragedy and sacrifice for others. > > I suppose it’ll match the rest of her character journey, but still. What a let down. That would pretty much be par for the course for the story though wouldn't it? Blish lasted three episodes before he was sacrificed? If Aurene is now dead then her entire existence as well as her family was just to be one sacrifice after another. Traeherne was a sacrifice though I never really cared for him. Didn't Tibalt sacrifice himself on Claw Island so we could get to safety or something? Can't remember. And at least Caithe had a chance to fall in love and had a partner. Poor little Aurene was born with people already after her, has been kidnapped, had her brother murdered before she even got to meet him, had most people treating her like crap because she's a dragon, and then winds up dying despite the prophecies of her dead mother before she even had the chance to grow up. Talk about a life of tragedy. Would much rather Caithe go than Aurene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola.6197 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I don't think either of them have to die, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 > @"DeWolfe.2174" said: > > @"Zavve.8205" said: > > I still don't understand why Caith gets to have such a connection to Aurene over us. > > idk im just hoping that Caith will give her life somehow to bring Aurene back. > > Episode after episode, for 3 years, and we still barely have a relationship with Aurene. We're supposed to have a psychic bond with Aurene that's never explored. Whenever we see Aurene we're cold as kitten to her and just bark orders at her. Now, the dev's reduce our bond by bringing Caithe into this episode. > > The whole thing annoys me. The commander is there to command and empathy is detrimental for the commander job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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