WvW is now unplayable.... cannot buy mount without expansions.

[DeathPanel.8362]

> @"charrboiledeggs.8164" said:

> > @"DeathPanel.8362" said:

> > > @"charrboiledeggs.8164" said:

> > > > @"mindcircus.1506" said:

> > > > I see no reason to accommodate a portion of the player base who do not spend money on this game.

> > > >

> > > > The expansion has been priced as low as 20 bucks by itself. Considering what it's delivered for the price, I feel pretty comfortable leaving behind those who cannot be bothered to pay it.

> > > >

> > > > The compromise? Offer the mount unlocked for 7-10 dollars a la carte.

> > > >

> > >

> > > youre literally making excuses for the game being p2w

> >

> > You can farm the gems to buy the expansions via the buy gems with gold feature.

> > It takes just a few days of farming in the silverwastes which is open in the base free game.

> >

> > Therefore all features can be unlocked through use of in game gold. Therefore not P2W.

> >

> >

>

> um........can't buy expansions with gems.

 

I could've sworn I bought HOT with gems a long time back. Maybe it was just a temporary thing or just my memory being bad.

In any case I'm not against being able to rent Mounts in WvW with coin or even heroic badges or just opening up Warclaw for all players period.

[neven.3785]

Prioritizes your spending more if you think this game is worth your free time. Whether it's cutting out a week of booze, getting regular coffee instead of lattes, or if you really are broke, it's a matter of putting a bit aside until you get enough to purchase. I've supported my family through some tough times and always found spending a little to buy an MMO saved a lot of money in entertainment costs. I even cut my cable once to buy a new game and support its subscription fees.

[Kaiser.9873]

> @"charrboiledeggs.8164" said:

> > @"Ryan.3675" said:

> > Just getting back into the game. I cannot afford any expansions, and I want to play WvW, which is one of my all time favorite game modes. I cannot keep up to my group without a mount. This game is now unplayable for me. This is a very disappointing feature that has been added. Please make it so that people without expansions can use or "rent" a mount only in WvW. It is a game killer.

>

> OH did you think gw2 wasn't p2w? Here's a shocker for you, buy expansions or get ran over in wvw and pvp by players with overpowered elite classes that can only be obtained via buying an expansion essentially making this game p2w.

 

There are several core professions that are excellent in PvP and in WvW. I've been roaming around on a Radiant hammer guard lately, and having a blast.

[VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.]

The coms I follow don't use mounts. Why should they? With almost permanent swiftness? Mounts are only used by those who are running back - and since most classes have some speed boost option, you can do without a mount just fine.

 

Warclaw is not a game changer. It is cute little addition.

[Cuks.8241]

> @"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said:

> The coms I follow don't use mounts. Why should they? With almost permanent swiftness? Mounts are only used by those who are running back - and since most classes have some speed boost option, you can do without a mount just fine.

>

> Warclaw is not a game changer. It is cute little addition.

 

Ah cmon. Warclaw is a huge game changer. Extra speed in home territories, extra evades, extra hp bar... Sorry but it changed almost all aspects of WvW. And very rarely I see commanders that don't run with it. I mean the response to what is happening on maps is just to slow these days.

 

People here making comparison with pve games/modes. The most successful games these days are competitive pvp f2p games with cosmetic micro transactions like Fortnite, LoL. Add a p2w features in those games and you will very quickly see it fail.

In the end WvW is a competitive mode or at least I hope they want to have it like that. Every p2win addition will only further reduce the player base. Myself I don't care how much the guy on the other side spent on the game, I would prefer we would all be on the same playing field so wins are skill based and not wallet based.

[Kylden Ar.3724]

> @"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said:

> The coms I follow don't use mounts. Why should they? With almost permanent swiftness? Mounts are only used by those who are running back - and since most classes have some speed boost option, you can do without a mount just fine.

>

> Warclaw is not a game changer. It is cute little addition.

 

Did we just agree on something... Is the world ending?

[VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.]

> @"Cuks.8241" said:

> > @"VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618" said:

> > The coms I follow don't use mounts. Why should they? With almost permanent swiftness? Mounts are only used by those who are running back - and since most classes have some speed boost option, you can do without a mount just fine.

> >

> > Warclaw is not a game changer. It is cute little addition.

>

> Ah cmon. Warclaw is a huge game changer. Extra speed in home territories, extra evades, extra hp bar... Sorry but it changed almost all aspects of WvW. And very rarely I see commanders that don't run with it. I mean the response to what is happening on maps is just to slow these days.

 

so rangers can't gank passing by lone zerglings while being out of range for any counter attack is a game changer? Rangers should be glad, because with warclaw there is slightly less pressure to nerf this profession into oblivion. For everybody else there is no real change.

[Legendary Defender.5631]

> @"Kaiser.9873" said:

> > @"charrboiledeggs.8164" said:

> > > @"Ryan.3675" said:

> > > Just getting back into the game. I cannot afford any expansions, and I want to play WvW, which is one of my all time favorite game modes. I cannot keep up to my group without a mount. This game is now unplayable for me. This is a very disappointing feature that has been added. Please make it so that people without expansions can use or "rent" a mount only in WvW. It is a game killer.

> >

> > OH did you think gw2 wasn't p2w? Here's a shocker for you, buy expansions or get ran over in wvw and pvp by players with overpowered elite classes that can only be obtained via buying an expansion essentially making this game p2w.

>

> There are several core professions that are excellent in PvP and in WvW. I've been roaming around on a Radiant hammer guard lately, and having a blast.

 

That doesnt mean its not p2w

[Legendary Defender.5631]

> @"neven.3785" said:

> Prioritizes your spending more if you think this game is worth your free time. Whether it's cutting out a week of booze, getting regular coffee instead of lattes, or if you really are broke, it's a matter of putting a bit aside until you get enough to purchase. I've supported my family through some tough times and always found spending a little to buy an MMO saved a lot of money in entertainment costs. I even cut my cable once to buy a new game and support its subscription fees.

 

You're literally making excuses for the game being p2w

[shiri.4257]

p2w would have to imply that you are paying to win something. what exactly are you winning in wvw?

[grouchybhaal.4275]

While we are asking for things.... Can i get a free legendary because i dont wanna pay for it... Greatsword would be nice but a hammer would be ok aswell

[Kovu.7560]

> @"shiri.4257" said:

> p2w would have to imply that you are paying to win something. what exactly are you winning in wvw?

 


 

[iKeostuKen.2738]

> @"shiri.4257" said:

> p2w would have to imply that you are paying to win something. what exactly are you winning in wvw?

 

P2W implies paying for an advantage, not necessarily winning.

[shiri.4257]

> @"iKeostuKen.2738" said:

> > @"shiri.4257" said:

> > p2w would have to imply that you are paying to win something. what exactly are you winning in wvw?

>

> P2W implies paying for an advantage, not necessarily winning.

 

implying $20 over 2 years requires some magnificent feat of skill.

[Kaiser.9873]

> @"iKeostuKen.2738" said:

> > @"shiri.4257" said:

> > p2w would have to imply that you are paying to win something. what exactly are you winning in wvw?

>

> P2W implies paying for an advantage, not necessarily winning.

 

Don't really think most players feel like buying an expansion is P2W. Buying an expansion is all about keeping the game afloat. Remember Death Knights? The tankmage of WoW. Had to buy the expansion to be able to play them.

[iKeostuKen.2738]

> @"Kaiser.9873" said:

> > @"iKeostuKen.2738" said:

> > > @"shiri.4257" said:

> > > p2w would have to imply that you are paying to win something. what exactly are you winning in wvw?

> >

> > P2W implies paying for an advantage, not necessarily winning.

>

> Don't really think most players feel like buying an expansion is P2W. Buying an expansion is all about keeping the game afloat. Remember Death Knights? The tankmage of WoW. Had to buy the expansion to be able to play them.

 

Yep, you did. But blizzard didnt screw the balance of other classes to make it so you had to buy DK. Plus level cap increase separated the pvp for those who didnt buy the expacs on release. This game does neither of those.

[mindcircus.1506]

> @"Legendary Defender.5631" said:

> > @"neven.3785" said:

> > Prioritizes your spending more if you think this game is worth your free time. Whether it's cutting out a week of booze, getting regular coffee instead of lattes, or if you really are broke, it's a matter of putting a bit aside until you get enough to purchase. I've supported my family through some tough times and always found spending a little to buy an MMO saved a lot of money in entertainment costs. I even cut my cable once to buy a new game and support its subscription fees.

>

> You're literally making excuses for the game being p2w

 

You seem to be confusing P2W (which GW2 is not) and B2P with a free trial (which GW2 is)

[Bishop.2690]

I agree with what others have said, warclaws should be available to all WvW players regardless of PoF ownership. They have enough problems with WvW retention, why create this barrier to interest more people.

 

And honestly I think introducing mounts into WvW was a bad idea. A very minority opinion I'm sure, but I don't like the fact you can basically be anywhere on the map in a matter of seconds. Might as well have put incontestable waypoints everywhere.

[Obtena.7952]

Even if this game is P2W, it's irrelevant. If you need to pay to compete at the same level as everyone else who has paid, then so be it. Pay up. If you don't, don't claim you are unfairly treated because you don't get the same advantages as a non-paying customer. That's just ridiculous. > @"Bishop.2690" said:

 

> I agree with what others have said, warclaws should be available to all WvW players regardless of PoF ownership. They have enough problems with WvW retention, why create this barrier to interest more people.

 

Sure ... but the problem is that these people who didn't want to buy PoF are probably less likely to pay for mount access in WvW, so it's not really a solution (Less assume that there must be some sort of payment for this access). Basically, they just want what others have paid for ... free. And that's unreasonable and ridiculous.

 

 

 

[hunkamania.7561]

they put mounts in there to get some quick bucks and left it high and dry lol No PoF? hahaha good luck keeping up with the blob where everything gets one shot with power creep engaging enemies with 15 seconds of stealth. By the time you catch up on foot everything is dead.

[Sovereign.1093]

buy expansion

[Fat Disgrace.4275]

So you can afford an internet service provider and a pc, but not 30 euros on xpac? Sounds pure greed to me.

[Axelteas.7192]

> @"Fat Disgrace.4275" said:

> So you can afford an internet service provider and a pc, but not 30 euros on xpac? Sounds pure greed to me.

 

I bought the game in 2012. Then played the beta expansions and my Pc couldnt move that sheet. Im not gonna pay 30euros to play at 2fps.

[Revolution.5409]

I didn't like the way Anet implemented Gliders and Mounts in WvW.

I would have preferred 1 or 2 dedicated maps in which to use them, keeping out the f2p profiles. I did not pay for the expansions to get benefits on WvW players.

 

I like the idea of a rental or something that puts everyone on the same level. The difference must be only in the equipment and specializations.

[Loffels.5934]

> @"iKeostuKen.2738" said:

> Yep, you did. But blizzard didnt screw the balance of other classes to make it so you had to buy DK. Plus level cap increase separated the pvp for those who didnt buy the expacs on release. This game does neither of those.

 

That's not true, because the release of the DK completely destroyed the Lv.60 twink meta.

 

60 twinks were still extremely popular during this time and upon release, but the DK could basically start at level 60 and be an absolute powerhouse in battlegrounds compared to people who put hundreds of hours into their 60 twinks of another class. AV turned into nothing but 50% DKs just spamming death grip and within weeks the 60 twink population completely crashed and never revived.