UnDeadFun.5824 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I would prefer an expansion( I would pay for) if it brings; new content, a rework of current stuff like specializations, skills, traits, combat system, dungeons, pvp and wvw for those that like that. Beyond that, I'm not sure I'll spend any more money here, not even converting gold to gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"mercury ranique.2170" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > > > @"Opopanax.1803" said: > > > How is this poll even possible to answer? No one knows what season 5 holds yet, do they? > > > > > > Or did I miss the reveal?? > > > > Expansion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other content > > But why?? > > In the end a studio creates content and releases it in some sort of bundle (e.g. living world release or expansion). There are two factors important in this. > 1: Price of the bundle. > 2: amount of content within. > > looking at the cummulative of season 4, I see more content then in e.g. HoT and it was all released for free. You might argue that some content was missing (new guildhalls, elite specs, new mechs like mounts and kiting), but there has been a massive change of direction at arenanet with massive lay offs and focus back to GW2 instead of side projects. After this the game lead promised us that the living world teams are allowed to work on more then just traditional living world releases as we are used to. So the content of the upcomming packages are unknown and we will likely not know about it for atleast 3-4 releases. So I am carefull to judge it just by the label on it and want to wait for the actual content. This is not even remotely true. Any HoT map is at least 2-3 times bigger than any map in LWS4 content wise. Not to mention the reliability. And overall, HoT and LWS3 were bigger and better than PoF and LWS4 in every conceivable way except story, and I personally preferred HoT and LWS3 over PoF and LWS4. And the primary reason for expansion is elites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insert PvE number of maps. This is the primary reason why expansions keep players busy for month. Not couple of new maps. There is a remote possibility (note here the word remote) that the new mastery is going to be accessing a specific class skill on a different class. Now this would be huge content wise. As for cost, surely free beats everything. But most of the good things are not free. As a working professional with more than a decade of experience, I am not that price sensitive, but I understand that majority of the player base are not in the same boat. Though $20-30 for expansion surely beats limited map and story content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opopanax.1803 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 They said that S5 is foing to have different stuff than a normal LW season. How much and what those changes are remains to be seen. Lets reserve judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtoGunner.4953 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I really wanted and expected an expansion. The positives are manyfold: media coverage, expectations from players (ie FF14 released the 3rd expansion in shorter time and it got overwhelming reviews). Also you usually get huge landmasses and new features in one go. And until now most of the 'content' was bloated collection and time gated grind which is really not what people want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omernon.9762 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"otto.5684" said: > > @"mercury ranique.2170" said: > > > @"otto.5684" said: > > > > @"Opopanax.1803" said: > > > > How is this poll even possible to answer? No one knows what season 5 holds yet, do they? > > > > > > > > Or did I miss the reveal?? > > > > > > Expansion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other content > > > > But why?? > > > > In the end a studio creates content and releases it in some sort of bundle (e.g. living world release or expansion). There are two factors important in this. > > 1: Price of the bundle. > > 2: amount of content within. > > > > looking at the cummulative of season 4, I see more content then in e.g. HoT and it was all released for free. You might argue that some content was missing (new guildhalls, elite specs, new mechs like mounts and kiting), but there has been a massive change of direction at arenanet with massive lay offs and focus back to GW2 instead of side projects. After this the game lead promised us that the living world teams are allowed to work on more then just traditional living world releases as we are used to. So the content of the upcomming packages are unknown and we will likely not know about it for atleast 3-4 releases. So I am carefull to judge it just by the label on it and want to wait for the actual content. > > This is not even remotely true. Any HoT map is at least 2-3 times bigger than any map in LWS4 content wise. Not to mention the reliability. And overall, HoT and LWS3 were bigger and better than PoF and LWS4 in every conceivable way except story, and I personally preferred HoT and LWS3 over PoF and LWS4. > > And the primary reason for expansion is elites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insert PvE number of maps. This is the primary reason why expansions keep players busy for month. Not couple of new maps. > > There is a remote possibility (note here the word remote) that the new mastery is going to be accessing a specific class skill on a different class. Now this would be huge content wise. > > As for cost, surely free beats everything. But most of the good things are not free. As a working professional with more than a decade of experience, I am not that price sensitive, but I understand that majority of the player base are not in the same boat. **Though $20-30 for expansion surely beats limited map and story content.** Not in the eyes of ANet. For 20-30 euro they can sell new mount skin that comes with the new LWS map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I guess another month and we will find out more in a preview https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/join-us-for-a-special-live-event-on-august-30/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I would have preferred one living world, one expansion, repeat endlessly, but as long as we get another one soon (after this season) I’ll be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asum.4960 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 For me a proper expansion means new features, feature extensions and feature overhauls, aka something like new Elite Specs, Guild System Reworks, WvW Reworks, Core rebalance and skill overhauls, entirely new features like Mounts, Gliding etc., as well as content dumps, like 10 new Fractals, 1-3 new Raids and an entire cohesive Story to play though at once. Something that properly revitalizes the game. The Story content is a just little bonus part in that to test the new tools in and have some short term fun exploring. Considering that's almost all LW has provided so far, excluding some minor feature extensions like additions to the mount feature, just more LW isn't keeping me interested. But we will see what they have in store for Season 5 I suppose (or rather, what's not just in the store). At this point I just want a decent amount new proper (endgame) content, not more collections and pressing F without meaningful challenge or any new character based tools to play with. > @"Omernon.9762" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > > > @"mercury ranique.2170" said: > > > > @"otto.5684" said: > > > > > @"Opopanax.1803" said: > > > > > How is this poll even possible to answer? No one knows what season 5 holds yet, do they? > > > > > > > > > > Or did I miss the reveal?? > > > > > > > > Expansion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other content > > > > > > But why?? > > > > > > In the end a studio creates content and releases it in some sort of bundle (e.g. living world release or expansion). There are two factors important in this. > > > 1: Price of the bundle. > > > 2: amount of content within. > > > > > > looking at the cummulative of season 4, I see more content then in e.g. HoT and it was all released for free. You might argue that some content was missing (new guildhalls, elite specs, new mechs like mounts and kiting), but there has been a massive change of direction at arenanet with massive lay offs and focus back to GW2 instead of side projects. After this the game lead promised us that the living world teams are allowed to work on more then just traditional living world releases as we are used to. So the content of the upcomming packages are unknown and we will likely not know about it for atleast 3-4 releases. So I am carefull to judge it just by the label on it and want to wait for the actual content. > > > > This is not even remotely true. Any HoT map is at least 2-3 times bigger than any map in LWS4 content wise. Not to mention the reliability. And overall, HoT and LWS3 were bigger and better than PoF and LWS4 in every conceivable way except story, and I personally preferred HoT and LWS3 over PoF and LWS4. > > > > And the primary reason for expansion is elites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insert PvE number of maps. This is the primary reason why expansions keep players busy for month. Not couple of new maps. > > > > There is a remote possibility (note here the word remote) that the new mastery is going to be accessing a specific class skill on a different class. Now this would be huge content wise. > > > > As for cost, surely free beats everything. But most of the good things are not free. As a working professional with more than a decade of experience, I am not that price sensitive, but I understand that majority of the player base are not in the same boat. **Though $20-30 for expansion surely beats limited map and story content.** > > Not in the eyes of ANet. For 20-30 euro they can sell new mount skin that comes with the new LWS map. Exactly. Unfortunately MTX robbed developers of the motivation to develop content anymore, considering a handful of people can make a single skin that can be sold in unlimited quantity for almost the same price as an entire expansion, including hundreds of new models, voice lines, writing, world building, new creative features and what have you, done by hundreds of people over the course of much more time, and people will buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomdepin.7068 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Expansion all the way. LW is slow, boring, and repetitive. Even with "expansion-like" content, it will probably still be slow on releases and not engaging. Won't make my friends and I come back any time soon I think. Please prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanith.5264 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > I guess another month and we will find out more in a preview > > https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/join-us-for-a-special-live-event-on-august-30/ Seeing that. And wondering: Are we to place any significance on the slightly altered shift in the LW logo's color? Asking for a friend. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TanksK.4795 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 well I want new wvw and pvp contents, and living worlds don't deliver that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Tanith.5264" said: > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > I guess another month and we will find out more in a preview > > > > https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/join-us-for-a-special-live-event-on-august-30/ > > Seeing that. And wondering: Are we to place any significance on the slightly altered shift in the LW logo's color? > > Asking for a friend. > > ;) Prob not. There's a few colours in there - blue, red, a touch of green. There's no Dragon logo, so it appears to confirm their recent statement about trying to briefly move away from Dragons/World ending threats. It could indicate the remaining dragons (blue for Jormag, red for Primordus, sea green for Bubbles) and the colours swarm a globe, but it could equally be just striking colours. I totally expect a lot of Jormag/Primordus speculation coming up though for the next few weeks Hope that helps your friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 The picture in the email sent shows a snowy scene; perhaps, that's some kind of clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > The picture in the email sent shows a snowy scene; perhaps, that's some kind of clue. Good spot. Hadn't looked at the email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Omernon.9762" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > > > @"mercury ranique.2170" said: > > > > @"otto.5684" said: > > > > > @"Opopanax.1803" said: > > > > > How is this poll even possible to answer? No one knows what season 5 holds yet, do they? > > > > > > > > > > Or did I miss the reveal?? > > > > > > > > Expansion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other content > > > > > > But why?? > > > > > > In the end a studio creates content and releases it in some sort of bundle (e.g. living world release or expansion). There are two factors important in this. > > > 1: Price of the bundle. > > > 2: amount of content within. > > > > > > looking at the cummulative of season 4, I see more content then in e.g. HoT and it was all released for free. You might argue that some content was missing (new guildhalls, elite specs, new mechs like mounts and kiting), but there has been a massive change of direction at arenanet with massive lay offs and focus back to GW2 instead of side projects. After this the game lead promised us that the living world teams are allowed to work on more then just traditional living world releases as we are used to. So the content of the upcomming packages are unknown and we will likely not know about it for atleast 3-4 releases. So I am carefull to judge it just by the label on it and want to wait for the actual content. > > > > This is not even remotely true. Any HoT map is at least 2-3 times bigger than any map in LWS4 content wise. Not to mention the reliability. And overall, HoT and LWS3 were bigger and better than PoF and LWS4 in every conceivable way except story, and I personally preferred HoT and LWS3 over PoF and LWS4. > > > > And the primary reason for expansion is elites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insert PvE number of maps. This is the primary reason why expansions keep players busy for month. Not couple of new maps. > > > > There is a remote possibility (note here the word remote) that the new mastery is going to be accessing a specific class skill on a different class. Now this would be huge content wise. > > > > As for cost, surely free beats everything. But most of the good things are not free. As a working professional with more than a decade of experience, I am not that price sensitive, but I understand that majority of the player base are not in the same boat. **Though $20-30 for expansion surely beats limited map and story content.** > > Not in the eyes of ANet. For 20-30 euro they can sell new mount skin that comes with the new LWS map. I think more ppl woupd spend that money in a season's worth of content than one mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanith.5264 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > The picture in the email sent shows a snowy scene; perhaps, that's some kind of clue. > > Good spot. Hadn't looked at the email Me either. Will do so now. Edit: Mine hasn't arrived yet. Hmm. Well, until I hear otherwise, I'm going with my pet theory that we're storming the Domain of Winds. Let's see them Tengu, Anet! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > The picture in the email sent shows a snowy scene; perhaps, that's some kind of clue. > > Good spot. Hadn't looked at the email There is an email? Didnt get any, maybe its na only lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 The newsletter emails are sent out in batches; others will likely arrive soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mea.5491 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Honestly, I'd be okay with living world forever if episodes were more frequent (2-2,5-ish months). HOWEVER, MMO players are obviously obsessed with expansions (see all the hype ESO and FFXIV got). Expansions are a huge selling point and GW2 definitely should release one for the sake of the game's future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"zealex.9410" said: > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > The picture in the email sent shows a snowy scene; perhaps, that's some kind of clue. > > > > Good spot. Hadn't looked at the email > > There is an email? Didnt get any, maybe its na only lol I’m not NA. Emails don’t go out together though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castlemanic.3198 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I'm fine with LWS5, i would like an expansion at some point however. Whatever option the devs go with, i'm still gonna play this game. I love this game so much and it's only gotten better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > @"zealex.9410" said: > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > > The picture in the email sent shows a snowy scene; perhaps, that's some kind of clue. > > > > > > Good spot. Hadn't looked at the email > > > > There is an email? Didnt get any, maybe its na only lol > > I’m not NA. Emails don’t go out together though It’s pretty cool though - there’s snow and Tengu and Cantha and build templates and sea dragon tentacles and all sorts For clarity, I’m probably joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > @"zealex.9410" said: > > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > > > The picture in the email sent shows a snowy scene; perhaps, that's some kind of clue. > > > > > > > > Good spot. Hadn't looked at the email > > > > > > There is an email? Didnt get any, maybe its na only lol > > > > I’m not NA. Emails don’t go out together though > > It’s pretty cool though - there’s snow and Tengu and Cantha and build templates and sea dragon tentacles and all sorts > Lol. Way to create hype! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trise.2865 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > @"zealex.9410" said: > > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > > > > The picture in the email sent shows a snowy scene; perhaps, that's some kind of clue. > > > > > > > > Good spot. Hadn't looked at the email > > > > > > There is an email? Didnt get any, maybe its na only lol > > > > I’m not NA. Emails don’t go out together though > > It’s pretty cool though - there’s snow and Tengu and Cantha and build templates and sea dragon tentacles and all sorts > Deliberate misinformation is not nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalThought.9835 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 The only benefit I can see with LW 5 instead of an expansion is if they'll add more mounts, since mounts is the bonus that comes with POF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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