Pifil.5193 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > @"perilisk.1874" said: > > > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > Its pretty much what the community have been asking for for years now. So yes, great idea, but one plucked from repeated requests. > > > > > > Maybe the raid community but not the casuals and PVEers, which are a larger group. > > > > I think the casuals and PvErs were asking for easy mode or story mode versions of raids, which technically this is, just in reverse. > > No, we did not want LW changed at all. Didn't we? I must have missed the memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 > @"Randulf.7614" said: > Its pretty much what the community have been asking for for years now. So yes, great idea, but one plucked from repeated requests. You say that like it's a bad thing. Isn't one of the laments found of the forums that the Devs don't listen and implement player feedback/requests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumn.5203 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 > @"WhatLiesBeneath.9018" said: > LW isnt changed. Strike Missions is a seperate thing were you together with 9 other players get to fight the last story boss, only this time its harder - its supposed to be a bridge to raiding. Thank you a million times for clarifying this. I was having a mini seizure thinking it would now be group content which would suck when the map dies as they all do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeefa.3915 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 As long as I can still solo at least my first playthrough of the story, I guess I don't mind. This wont make me like raids though and part of what I don't want is to be organised with 9 other people, so probably wont do this either. Calling it genious, might be a stretch if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 > @"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said: > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > Its pretty much what the community have been asking for for years now. So yes, great idea, but one plucked from repeated requests. > > You say that like it's a bad thing. Isn't one of the laments found of the forums that the Devs don't listen and implement player feedback/requests? No its an excellent thing. Not sure why u read otherwse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatLiesBeneath.9018 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 There will be two different ways to join a strike mission, either with random players or organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Perhaps 'and' instead of 'but' would have made the statement more clear. Sorry for misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 > @"autumn.5203" said: > > @"WhatLiesBeneath.9018" said: > > > LW isnt changed. Strike Missions is a seperate thing were you together with 9 other players get to fight the last story boss, only this time its harder - its supposed to be a bridge to raiding. > Thank you a million times for clarifying this. I was having a mini seizure thinking it would now be group content which would suck when the map dies as they all do. > Same here (well, not a seizure as I had just taken my meds for that), I already hate the final fights they give us because they always seem to be of the 'flash everything means good' school of design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 > @"Ayakaru.6583" said: > I don't see how the fight with Zhaitan would work without a clean slate overhaul. Currently, it's a mechanical fight. More arcade than combat. It's pressing F to fire a laser. It's neither mechanical, nor a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindcircus.1506 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > @"perilisk.1874" said: > > > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > Its pretty much what the community have been asking for for years now. So yes, great idea, but one plucked from repeated requests. > > > > > > Maybe the raid community but not the casuals and PVEers, which are a larger group. > > > > I think the casuals and PvErs were asking for easy mode or story mode versions of raids, which technically this is, just in reverse. > > No, we did not want LW changed at all. Plus don't use "we" as if you are speaking for an entire section of the player base. This PVE'er very much wanted this content. Changes to LW are very welcome at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Godrik.5841 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I hope this is true and they go back and revamp all previous ls. Rewards have to be decent tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakaru.6583 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 > @"mindcircus.1506" said: > > @"Ayakaru.6583" said: > > I don't see how the fight with Zhaitan would work without a clean slate overhaul. Currently, it's a mechanical fight. More arcade than combat. > It's pressing F to fire a laser. > It's neither mechanical, nor a fight. > I have a mechanical keyboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menadena.7482 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 > @"mindcircus.1506" said: > > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > > @"perilisk.1874" said: > > > > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > > Its pretty much what the community have been asking for for years now. So yes, great idea, but one plucked from repeated requests. > > > > > > > > Maybe the raid community but not the casuals and PVEers, which are a larger group. > > > > > > I think the casuals and PvErs were asking for easy mode or story mode versions of raids, which technically this is, just in reverse. > > > > No, we did not want LW changed at all. > > Plus don't use "we" as if you are speaking for an entire section of the player base. > This PVE'er very much wanted this content. > Changes to LW are very welcome at this point. So I would in turn thank the people in this thread who are saying people wanted this that they do not speak for me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewcifer.5198 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > @"mindcircus.1506" said: > > > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > > > @"perilisk.1874" said: > > > > > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > > > > > @"Randulf.7614" said: > > > > > > Its pretty much what the community have been asking for for years now. So yes, great idea, but one plucked from repeated requests. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the raid community but not the casuals and PVEers, which are a larger group. > > > > > > > > I think the casuals and PvErs were asking for easy mode or story mode versions of raids, which technically this is, just in reverse. > > > > > > No, we did not want LW changed at all. > > > > Plus don't use "we" as if you are speaking for an entire section of the player base. > > This PVE'er very much wanted this content. > > Changes to LW are very welcome at this point. > > So I would in turn thank the people in this thread who are saying people wanted this that they do not speak for me either. Saying "people were asking for this" is not the same as saying "we did not ask for this" in which using 'we' to mean an entire category of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameepa.6793 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Whoa title of the thread made me scared that am I not be able to do LS anymore, but luckily it just seems to be optional! Whew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashantara.8731 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 > @"Knighthonor.4061" said: > Turning Living Story into Mini Raids is just Genius . Good job on whoever came up with this. This would make Living Story instances more enjoyable to be run many times after. > > its talked about on the reddit but here a pic for discussion here. > ![](https://i.redd.it/boc82p2rslk31.jpg "") I totally agree. Sounds like a lot more fun than actual raids. :+1: I will save my final judgment for later, though, after we have gotten to test this concept. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddoctor.2738 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Reminder: Migraine exists. This is nothing new, it didn't work with Migraine and it's unlikely to work with this if the rewards aren't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 > @"maddoctor.2738" said: > Reminder: Migraine exists. This is nothing new, it didn't work with Migraine and it's unlikely to work with this if the rewards aren't worth it. Still migraine aint really the same for 1 the rewards are 1 and done. If it were repetable I think more people would do it to get easy ascended amulets for alts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autumn.5203 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > @"autumn.5203" said: > > > @"WhatLiesBeneath.9018" said: > > > > > LW isnt changed. Strike Missions is a seperate thing were you together with 9 other players get to fight the last story boss, only this time its harder - its supposed to be a bridge to raiding. > > Thank you a million times for clarifying this. I was having a mini seizure thinking it would now be group content which would suck when the map dies as they all do. > > > > Same here (well, not a seizure as I had just taken my meds for that), I already hate the final fights they give us because they always seem to be of the 'flash everything means good' school of design. Yep. And of course, covering everywhere with unavoidable damage is a must too. Along with bouncing us around like ragdolls . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goettel.4389 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Holding out for them to be actually patched in, but I like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 > @"autumn.5203" said: > > @"Menadena.7482" said: > > > @"autumn.5203" said: > > > > @"WhatLiesBeneath.9018" said: > > > > > > > LW isnt changed. Strike Missions is a seperate thing were you together with 9 other players get to fight the last story boss, only this time its harder - its supposed to be a bridge to raiding. > > > Thank you a million times for clarifying this. I was having a mini seizure thinking it would now be group content which would suck when the map dies as they all do. > > > > > > > Same here (well, not a seizure as I had just taken my meds for that), I already hate the final fights they give us because they always seem to be of the 'flash everything means good' school of design. > > Yep. And of course, covering everywhere with unavoidable damage is a must too. Along with bouncing us around like ragdolls . What damage is unavoidable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 > @"maddoctor.2738" said: > Reminder: Migraine exists. This is nothing new, it didn't work with Migraine and it's unlikely to work with this if the rewards aren't worth it. Migraine wasnt intented to be repeatable and it left a bad taste in ppl's mouths for doff reasons, most notably, its bugs. Plus we are compairing what was non scaleable 5 man content to what (i hope will be) non scalable 10 man (tho it says up to 10 so i assume it scales). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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