Straegen.2938 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 As the active US WvW population trends downward, I believe it is time to remove another tier which in turn will hopefully generate a more robust population in the other three tiers. On reset only a handful of matches are seeing one or two maps queued at most. Outside of NA Prime, WvW can often feel like a wasteland with a dozen or less players running around on each server group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blockhead Magee.3092 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primatos.5413 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Even with alliances there will be players needed .. the longer this takes .. the more will leave i think .. so .. give them just a little more time and everything will work itself out in the end .. somehow :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 > @"Blockhead Magee.3092" said: > No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode. so dont do anything till Guild Wars 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liston.9708 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 > @"Blockhead Magee.3092" said: > No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode. Not sure there really are resources allotted to alliances or it would be done by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MELORD.5013 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 the NA wvw population is looking better than it was the last few months check this https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/84457/na-wvw-is-in-freefall#latest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 remove all tiers and make everyone play in ebg only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 > @"MELORD.5013" said: > the NA wvw population is actually better than it was the last few months > check this https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/84457/na-wvw-is-in-freefall#latest Theoretically. That is unless they lowered the ‘threshold’ of full to keep Blackgate closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavyne.6847 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Chopping off 1 tier is one of the quickest and possibly the easiest way for them to breath temporary fresh air into this game mode. The players that still play in WvW do so because they enjoy it, and there's really nothing like it out there. But there's nothing worse than rallying a guild raid, then finding no content after 2 hours and have everybody log bored and disappointed. Or you see the opposing servers having multiple oj's on map while you've got no allies to play with to fight them. The population is stretched too thin, there's no reason to have 4 tiers at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonWing.9480 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 > @"Blockhead Magee.3092" said: > No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode. That's a brave assumption that there's resources to divert from alliances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gop.8713 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 > @"Strider Pj.2193" said: > > @"MELORD.5013" said: > > the NA wvw population is actually better than it was the last few months > > check this https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/84457/na-wvw-is-in-freefall#latest > > Theoretically. > > That is unless they lowered the ‘threshold’ of full to keep Blackgate closed. Can't understand why ppl insist on thinking of those server population labels as fixed numbers . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperballad.5693 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 > @"Gop.8713" said: > > Can't understand why ppl insist on thinking of those server population labels as fixed numbers . . . Yup, actual activity numbers tell a different story. Seems clear to me the bottom NA tiers have started transferring to BP/JQ/Mag. ![](https://imgur.com/LZIlAYe.jpg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Removing T4 is like battling a dragon and then someone yells "I know what to do, chop off its tail to kill it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Pj.2193 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 > @"Dawdler.8521" said: > Removing T4 is like battling a dragon and then someone yells "I know what to do, chop off its tail to kill it!" Well... it might... Of course that would throw off its balance leading to to crash if it tried to fly and... Oh... that was.. nvm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 add another mount that is obtained in wvw and that can be used in pve it will have the same effect on population as removing t4 will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlySynz.3471 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 > @"Blockhead Magee.3092" said: > No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode. Well considering their PvE heavy mindset and what they delivered with the next saga and how short it was.. tells me Alliances aren't even being touched. If they can't even deliver properly on PvE then don't expect even a blip in WvW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 seasons. press to join and choose your new alliance. separate from basic wvw. only 3 sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusticeRetroHunter.7684 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Removing tiers provides immediate, but temporary solution to the population problem. The long term solution would be an easier way to convert PVE’ers into WvW’ers without gimmicky incentives like mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign.1093 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 make it so you can only finish your legendary on sm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blockhead Magee.3092 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 > @"ArchonWing.9480" said: > > @"Blockhead Magee.3092" said: > > No. Don't do anything that slows or diverts resources from alliances. Get that done. Then we'll see where we stand and if WvW can stay a viable game mode. > > That's a brave assumption that there's resources to divert from alliances. 'Hope' is not a strategy, but its about all I have left for my favorite game mode. I'll encourage them to stay focused on alliances at every opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiri.4257 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 tier 1 dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimator.3589 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It needs to happen so it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EremiteAngel.9765 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I don't know about other tiers but Tier 1 currently has lots of activity going on at most hours. It has been fun to say the least. Coincidentally Tier 1 is also currently made up of 3 full servers and rotated weekly with the other Very High pop server. Perhaps reducing the number of tiers to compact the population might be a good option so the other tiers enjoy the same activity levels of a triple full server Tier 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primatos.5413 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 > @"Hyperballad.5693" said: > > @"Gop.8713" said: > > > > Can't understand why ppl insist on thinking of those server population labels as fixed numbers . . . > > Yup, actual activity numbers tell a different story. Seems clear to me the bottom NA tiers have started transferring to BP/JQ/Mag. > > ![](https://imgur.com/LZIlAYe.jpg) > > Where's that list from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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