Ovark.2514 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 They removed evade sword earth and water #2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Crinny.6190 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 don't give anet ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 ppl would cry harder when ele mains switch to fresh air cuz they can't dodge one of the most obvious openers in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollbirtan.2915 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 what would happen if ppl stopped writing clickbait headlines with meaningless suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovark.2514 Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"ollbirtan.2915" said: > what would happen if ppl stopped writing clickbait headlines with meaningless suggestions? Well no one responded to my last topic so I figured what the hell. Also it's not a meaningless suggestion since the evades on sword and invulns on focus are 100% the reason that players are even able to use weaver at all competitively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalisto.5780 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"Ovark.2514" said: > > @"ollbirtan.2915" said: > > what would happen if ppl stopped writing clickbait headlines with meaningless suggestions? > > Well no one responded to my last topic so I figured what the hell. Also it's not a meaningless suggestion since the evades on sword and invulns on focus are 100% the reason that players are even able to use weaver at all competitively. I guess 80% would swap the fresh ait the other 20% to lightning rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty.3268 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"Ovark.2514" said: > Also it's not a meaningless suggestion since the evades on sword and invulns on focus are 100% the reason that players are even able to use weaver at all competitively. The same can be said about other classes with a lot of blocks/evades/invulnerabilties and even CC, too. Like Mirage, Spellbreaker or Condi Daredevil, to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Why does it alway have to be: “quick kill it.” Why can’t we just increase the CD of sword 2 by 3-5 secs, and lower primordial stance damage slightly in sPvP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeikeNz.3526 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"otto.5684" said: > Why does it alway have to be: “quick kill it.” Why can’t we just increase the CD of sword 2 by 3-5 secs, and lower primordial stance damage slightly in sPvP? because this will change nothing, to balance weaver they need: 1- remove evades/ lower the duration or 2- lower the damage from fire because all they need to do is hit you one time and you are almost killed after they evaded all your hits riptide have 2s evade time what is like 2 dodge rolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.5684 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > > Why does it alway have to be: “quick kill it.” Why can’t we just increase the CD of sword 2 by 3-5 secs, and lower primordial stance damage slightly in sPvP? > > because this will change nothing, to balance weaver they need: > 1- remove evades/ lower the duration > or > 2- lower the damage from fire > > because all they need to do is hit you one time and you are almost killed after they evaded all your hits Man, this is not G1 okay? Most of weaver evades are under 1 sec duration. “All they need is to hit you one time you are almost killed.” The only possible response to this is learn 2 play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 What would happen to Weaver if....They removed evade sword earth and water #2? The elementalist section will revert to being the whiniest self entitled section of the forums. On the plus side if anyone wanted to make a vial of salt it would become much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castiel.9048 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"ollbirtan.2915" said: > what would happen if ppl stopped writing clickbait headlines with meaningless suggestions? Meaningless suggestion indeed. Ele was already nerfed to hell previously, and now when it is playable (with like only 1.5 builds), the cries come back. Please pass them the salt, it goes better with their tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolLookAtMyAP.8394 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 It would be meaningless. D/F Weaver is making a strong entrance into the Conquest scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallic.2397 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 D/F is getting there. I'm trying a Fire/Air/Weaver build with some success. The main weapon needs a few buffs, or every other class needs a few nerfs... whichever comes first ;) Earth/Water skill 2 evades aren't the problem with Fire Weaver. Water weaver used the same traits and same weapons, but never competed nearly as well as it's counter part. Fire Weaver's strength comes from the fire traitline! I understand that people are sick with condi and Fire Weaver's somehow perceived invincibility, but if you wanna nerf the build, then cry nerfs on the right things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LolLookAtMyAP.8394 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"Stallic.2397" said: > D/F is getting there. I'm trying a Fire/Air/Weaver build with some success. The main weapon needs a few buffs, or every other class needs a few nerfs... whichever comes first ;) > > Earth/Water skill 2 evades aren't the problem with Fire Weaver. Water weaver used the same traits and same weapons, but never competed nearly as well as it's counter part. Fire Weaver's strength comes from the fire traitline! > > I understand that people are sick with condi and Fire Weaver's somehow perceived invincibility, but if you wanna nerf the build, then cry nerfs on the right things. Try the D/F build on Metabattle, but replace the amulet with Zerker and the Weaver adept major trait to the vitality trait. Huge damage spikes, and does a dent in teamfights. Coupled with all the evasion you can even 1v2 with it with success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"apharma.3741" said: > What would happen to Weaver if....They removed evade sword earth and water #2? > > The elementalist section will revert to being the whiniest self entitled section of the forums. On the plus side if anyone wanted to make a vial of salt it would become much easier. It's all cool...once they take care of **might generation/impact and access to quickness** , once they take care of the huge dmg spike some professions are capable of plus their innate sustain...once of all that is take care of, the nerfs to weaver will be meaningless because ele will be more than able to compete with base d/d ele or FA build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 > @"SeikeNz.3526" said: > > @"otto.5684" said: > > Why does it alway have to be: “quick kill it.” Why can’t we just increase the CD of sword 2 by 3-5 secs, and lower primordial stance damage slightly in sPvP? > > because this will change nothing, to balance weaver they need: > 1- remove evades/ lower the duration > or > 2- lower the damage from fire > > because all they need to do is hit you one time and you are almost killed after they evaded all your hits > riptide have 2s evade time what is like 2 dodge rolls There would be no problem for eles to nerf weaver evasion rate...once they nerf the rest of PoF specs and access to high dmg modifiers across the board, the high evasion rate is only neeed to support the class through this powercrept phase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimjack.8130 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Riptide and Earthen Vortex are not the issue. In fact, [they are part of the solution.](https://youtu.be/HaQ2kA_QTyo?t=17 "they are part of the solution.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 > @"Grimjack.8130" said: > Riptide and Earthen Vortex are not the issue. In fact, [they are part of the solution.](https://youtu.be/HaQ2kA_QTyo?t=17 "they are part of the solution.") > You're too experienced...you know already the nerfs will come inevitably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 If they removed Weaver evades, they'd need to remove evades from Mirage Cloak as well. Mesmer evades are significantly more atrocious than Weaver evades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPuppy.8970 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Is that the squishy slow thing that needs to hug you to do damage? Sure evades are annoying but at least it doesn't do damage while doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortrialus.3062 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 > @"MyPuppy.8970" said: > Is that the squishy slow thing that needs to hug you to do damage? **Sure evades are annoying but at least it doesn't do damage while doing so.** Wat. Weaver can absolutely pulse damage on you while dodging with Primordial Stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPuppy.8970 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 > @"mortrialus.3062" said: > > @"MyPuppy.8970" said: > > Is that the squishy slow thing that needs to hug you to do damage? **Sure evades are annoying but at least it doesn't do damage while doing so.** > > Wat. > > Weaver can absolutely pulse damage on you while dodging with Primordial Stance. Water 2 go backwards, Earth 2 is stationnary, so goodbye the condi farts. The rest is just a matter of positionning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRedStar.3054 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Think the most obvious way they'll go about weaver (if they do) is increasing the cooldown of some of the evade skills by a few seconds. Maybe increasing the Twist of Fate count recharge by 5-10 seconds. Doubt the damage is going to get touched. And it doesn't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 > @"NorthernRedStar.3054" said: > Think the most obvious way they'll go about weaver (if they do) is increasing the cooldown of some of the evade skills by a few seconds. Maybe increasing the Twist of Fate count recharge by 5-10 seconds. > > Doubt the damage is going to get touched. And it doesn't have to. Just delete the class...it's basically worthless outside the fire weaver build that kills some silver hero..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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