Aeolus.3615 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Mirage and holo mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylo.1968 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > @"Tycura.1982" said: > > None stand out very much. The other specs should be buffed to match current performance. There's many viable classes right now and not a one of them doesn't have counterplay. > > > > In my estimation the classes in need of the most love are druid, scourge, renegade, core engie, dragon hunter, chrono, core thief, and berserker. > > How about we stop the powercreep and instead of buffing the underperformers, we nerf the overperformer to bring them in line? > Your way of balancing brought us into this powercrept state of a game. > > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > > Permastealth DE, condi Mirage, Symbolbrand, Bambi > > > > Edit: Warrior 0 effort self sustain > > > > > > Warrior has to hit f burst skills to get sustain, be it adrenal health (defense traitline isnt even meta anymore) or magebane tether/mmr > > If you avoid getting hit or break the tether you deny the warrior most of his sustain in the current metabuild. Since you have to dodge almost everything, ofc they land their f1. Also the might stacks don't come from bursts skills only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Anything that farts out Conditions, CC and evade/stealth/teleports like no tomorrow. There is no longer any skill involved in PvP. Whoever farts first wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > @"Tycura.1982" said: > > None stand out very much. The other specs should be buffed to match current performance. There's many viable classes right now and not a one of them doesn't have counterplay. > > > > In my estimation the classes in need of the most love are druid, scourge, renegade, core engie, dragon hunter, chrono, core thief, and berserker. > > How about we stop the powercreep and instead of buffing the underperformers, we nerf the overperformer to bring them in line? > Your way of balancing brought us into this powercrept state of a game. > > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > > Permastealth DE, condi Mirage, Symbolbrand, Bambi > > > > Edit: Warrior 0 effort self sustain > > > > > > Warrior has to hit f burst skills to get sustain, be it adrenal health (defense trait line isn't even meta anymore) or magebane tether/mmr > > If you avoid getting hit or break the tether you deny the warrior most of his sustain in the current meta build. Some classes underperform compared to other people they are aggressively controlled(Necromancer) and the other classes are simply power creeped. You don't address power creep by adding more power creep, you nerf the over-performing classes then sure if a class is still gimped compared to others you buff them in a necessary fashion. In fact: Everyone should get the necro treatment because then we wouldn't have mesmer mains complaining about being hard countered by thieves or necros and eles complaining about thief players, you get my point. Reaper is already quite good, what needs major reform is scourge. For ele: My experience is mostly tempest, but tempest has to get in a lot of melee range and doesn't have much evades like weaver has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falan.1839 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Weaver, Rev and Thief dominate the meta. Fb is still the only viable support for teamfight comps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zexanima.7851 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 > @"Fueki.4753" said: > Anything that farts out Conditions, CC and evade/stealth/teleports like no tomorrow. > There is no longer any skill involved in PvP. > Whoever farts first wins. "Whoever farts first, wins." - A legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnfall.9573 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 dropping this here.....Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShark.9548 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 > @"Axl.8924" said: > > > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > > @"Tycura.1982" said: > > > None stand out very much. The other specs should be buffed to match current performance. There's many viable classes right now and not a one of them doesn't have counterplay. > > > > > > In my estimation the classes in need of the most love are druid, scourge, renegade, core engie, dragon hunter, chrono, core thief, and berserker. > > > > How about we stop the powercreep and instead of buffing the underperformers, we nerf the overperformer to bring them in line? > > Your way of balancing brought us into this powercrept state of a game. > > > > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > > > Permastealth DE, condi Mirage, Symbolbrand, Bambi > > > > > > Edit: Warrior 0 effort self sustain > > > > > > > > > > Warrior has to hit f burst skills to get sustain, be it adrenal health (defense trait line isn't even meta anymore) or magebane tether/mmr > > > > If you avoid getting hit or break the tether you deny the warrior most of his sustain in the current meta build. > > Some classes underperform compared to other people they are aggressively controlled(Necromancer) and the other classes are simply power creeped. > > You don't address power creep by adding more power creep, you nerf the over-performing classes then sure if a class is still kitten compared to others you buff them in a necessary fashion. > > In fact: Everyone should get the necro treatment because then we wouldn't have mesmer mains complaining about being hard countered by thieves or necros and eles complaining about thief players, you get my point. > > Reaper is already quite good, what needs major reform is scourge. > > For ele: My experience is mostly tempest, but tempest has to get in a lot of melee range and doesn't have much evades like weaver has. > Was that supposed to reply to me? My post already stated that i want to rather nerf than buff to no have more powercreep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl.8924 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > @"Axl.8924" said: > > > > > @"RedShark.9548" said: > > > > @"Tycura.1982" said: > > > > None stand out very much. The other specs should be buffed to match current performance. There's many viable classes right now and not a one of them doesn't have counterplay. > > > > > > > > In my estimation the classes in need of the most love are druid, scourge, renegade, core engie, dragon hunter, chrono, core thief, and berserker. > > > > > > How about we stop the powercreep and instead of buffing the underperformers, we nerf the overperformer to bring them in line? > > > Your way of balancing brought us into this powercrept state of a game. > > > > > > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > > > > @"Hylo.1968" said: > > > > > Permastealth DE, condi Mirage, Symbolbrand, Bambi > > > > > > > > Edit: Warrior 0 effort self sustain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warrior has to hit f burst skills to get sustain, be it adrenal health (defense trait line isn't even meta anymore) or magebane tether/mmr > > > > > > If you avoid getting hit or break the tether you deny the warrior most of his sustain in the current meta build. > > > > Some classes underperform compared to other people they are aggressively controlled(Necromancer) and the other classes are simply power creeped. > > > > You don't address power creep by adding more power creep, you nerf the over-performing classes then sure if a class is still kitten compared to others you buff them in a necessary fashion. > > > > In fact: Everyone should get the necro treatment because then we wouldn't have mesmer mains complaining about being hard countered by thieves or necros and eles complaining about thief players, you get my point. > > > > Reaper is already quite good, what needs major reform is scourge. > > > > For ele: My experience is mostly tempest, but tempest has to get in a lot of melee range and doesn't have much evades like weaver has. > > > > Was that supposed to reply to me? My post already stated that i want to rather nerf than buff to no have more powercreep I was actually agreeing with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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