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> @"Dante.1763" said:

> > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> >

> > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

>

> The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

>

> Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

>

> Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

 

That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

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> @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > >

> > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> >

> > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> >

> > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> >

> > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

>

> That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

> If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

> Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

 

FYI you can find sellers for the full achievements for less than 500g.

 

Add to that i dont have an issue doing W1, and W2, and often do those bosses. The problems start after that, and with nobody doing raids in any of my guilds when im online(yay timezones)im never going to get a group for them.

 

Which is why my opinions on raids are the way they are.

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> @"Dante.1763" said:

> > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > >

> > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > >

> > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > >

> > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > >

> > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> >

> > That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

> > If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

> > Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

>

> FYI you can find sellers for the full achievements for less than 500g.

>

> Add to that i dont have an issue doing W1, and W2, and often do those bosses. The problems start after that, and with nobody doing raids in any of my guilds when im online(yay timezones)im never going to get a group for them.

>

> Which is why my opinions on raids are the way they are.

 

Alright if you say so. Im part of the the big endgame raiding guild and we have lot of raid sellers here from different guilds including me. And price for raid bosses is same in every raid seller LFG post unless you happen to be friend with some1 from raid selling guild ofc.

 

If you are just a random guy buying kills from sellers price is more or less the one that i said considering that you said that ur going to buy achievments AND LIs.

 

It gets a bit cheaper if you are buying w1-7FC weekly but still gonna cost around 1000-1500MC/week.

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> @"Dante.1763" said:

> > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> >

> > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

>

> The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

>

> Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

>

> Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

 

I've never thought of it as 5 game modes but that makes a lot of sense to me. I wonder what would be a replacement final reward if legendary equipment were made more obtainable in all game modes. I personally think it should be titles but I know few people share that opinion. I also think that instead of creating new legendary trinkets there should be a series of quests and achieves at the end of which you could upgrade one ascended trinket of your choosing to legendary status.

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> @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > > >

> > > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > > >

> > > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > > >

> > > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > > >

> > > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> > >

> > > That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

> > > If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

> > > Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

> >

> > FYI you can find sellers for the full achievements for less than 500g.

> >

> > Add to that i dont have an issue doing W1, and W2, and often do those bosses. The problems start after that, and with nobody doing raids in any of my guilds when im online(yay timezones)im never going to get a group for them.

> >

> > Which is why my opinions on raids are the way they are.

>

> Alright if you say so. Im part of the the big endgame raiding guild and we have lot of raid sellers here from different guilds including me. And price for raid bosses is same in every raid seller LFG post unless you happen to be friend with some1 from raid selling guild ofc.

>

> If you are just a random guy buying kills from sellers price is more or less the one that i said considering that you said that ur going to buy achievments AND LIs.

>

> It gets a bit cheaper if you are buying w1'4 FC weekly but still gonna cost around 1000-1500MC/week.

 

Yea im not trying to buy the weekly kills, just need the few i cant do with my group for the achievements, i shoulda made my post clearer, apologies on that. I can get the required LI in W1 and W2 over the course of time, im not in any hurry what so ever on that front.

 

> @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > @"Dante.1763" said:

 

> > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

>

> I've never thought of it as 5 game modes but that makes a lot of sense to me. I wonder what would be a replacement final reward if legendary equipment were made more obtainable in all game modes. I personally think it should be titles but I know few people share that opinion. I also think that instead of creating new legendary trinkets there should be a series of quests and achieves at the end of which you could upgrade one ascended trinket of your choosing to legendary status.

 

 

Yea, pretty much the five modes are; Raids, Fractals, PVE, PVP and WVW. All five of them play very differently from each other, with different mechanics and requirements.

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> @"Dante.1763" said:

> > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > > > >

> > > > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > > > >

> > > > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > > > >

> > > > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> > > >

> > > > That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

> > > > If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

> > > > Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

> > >

> > > FYI you can find sellers for the full achievements for less than 500g.

> > >

> > > Add to that i dont have an issue doing W1, and W2, and often do those bosses. The problems start after that, and with nobody doing raids in any of my guilds when im online(yay timezones)im never going to get a group for them.

> > >

> > > Which is why my opinions on raids are the way they are.

> >

> > Alright if you say so. Im part of the the big endgame raiding guild and we have lot of raid sellers here from different guilds including me. And price for raid bosses is same in every raid seller LFG post unless you happen to be friend with some1 from raid selling guild ofc.

> >

> > If you are just a random guy buying kills from sellers price is more or less the one that i said considering that you said that ur going to buy achievments AND LIs.

> >

> > It gets a bit cheaper if you are buying w1'4 FC weekly but still gonna cost around 1000-1500MC/week.

>

> Yea im not trying to buy the weekly kills, just need the few i cant do with my group for the achievements, i shoulda made my post clearer, apologies on that. I can get the required LI in W1 and W2 over the course of time, im not in any hurry what so ever on that front.

>

>

If thats the case then you are kinda correct. You only need to buy w3 once and w4 once and that indeed should be doable with an cost of 500-1000 gold(depending ofc how many times your failing cairn crystaline heart).

 

 

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> @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> > > > >

> > > > > That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

> > > > > If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

> > > > > Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

> > > >

> > > > FYI you can find sellers for the full achievements for less than 500g.

> > > >

> > > > Add to that i dont have an issue doing W1, and W2, and often do those bosses. The problems start after that, and with nobody doing raids in any of my guilds when im online(yay timezones)im never going to get a group for them.

> > > >

> > > > Which is why my opinions on raids are the way they are.

> > >

> > > Alright if you say so. Im part of the the big endgame raiding guild and we have lot of raid sellers here from different guilds including me. And price for raid bosses is same in every raid seller LFG post unless you happen to be friend with some1 from raid selling guild ofc.

> > >

> > > If you are just a random guy buying kills from sellers price is more or less the one that i said considering that you said that ur going to buy achievments AND LIs.

> > >

> > > It gets a bit cheaper if you are buying w1'4 FC weekly but still gonna cost around 1000-1500MC/week.

> >

> > Yea im not trying to buy the weekly kills, just need the few i cant do with my group for the achievements, i shoulda made my post clearer, apologies on that. I can get the required LI in W1 and W2 over the course of time, im not in any hurry what so ever on that front.

> >

> >

> If thats the case then you are kinda correct. You only need to buy w3 once and w4 once and that indeed should be doable with and cost of 500-1000 gold(depending ofc how many times your failing cairn crystaline heart).

>

>

 

Yupyup, And really i only need to buy Xera, KC, TC, and Deimos.

 

Cairn is part of one of the wings -i can do- so i dont need to buy that, it sucks though, if i was in different time zone i could do all the achievements without needing to buy them. I have characters, and builds all set up to do raids. *shrug*

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> @"Dante.1763" said:

> > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

> > > > > > If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

> > > > > > Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

> > > > >

> > > > > FYI you can find sellers for the full achievements for less than 500g.

> > > > >

> > > > > Add to that i dont have an issue doing W1, and W2, and often do those bosses. The problems start after that, and with nobody doing raids in any of my guilds when im online(yay timezones)im never going to get a group for them.

> > > > >

> > > > > Which is why my opinions on raids are the way they are.

> > > >

> > > > Alright if you say so. Im part of the the big endgame raiding guild and we have lot of raid sellers here from different guilds including me. And price for raid bosses is same in every raid seller LFG post unless you happen to be friend with some1 from raid selling guild ofc.

> > > >

> > > > If you are just a random guy buying kills from sellers price is more or less the one that i said considering that you said that ur going to buy achievments AND LIs.

> > > >

> > > > It gets a bit cheaper if you are buying w1'4 FC weekly but still gonna cost around 1000-1500MC/week.

> > >

> > > Yea im not trying to buy the weekly kills, just need the few i cant do with my group for the achievements, i shoulda made my post clearer, apologies on that. I can get the required LI in W1 and W2 over the course of time, im not in any hurry what so ever on that front.

> > >

> > >

> > If thats the case then you are kinda correct. You only need to buy w3 once and w4 once and that indeed should be doable with and cost of 500-1000 gold(depending ofc how many times your failing cairn crystaline heart).

> >

> >

>

> Yupyup, And really i only need to buy Xera, KC, TC, and Deimos.

>

> Cairn is part of one of the wings -i can do- so i dont need to buy that, it sucks though, if i was in different time zone i could do all the achievements without needing to buy them. I have characters, and builds all set up to do raids. *shrug*

 

Alright u know your stuff, DONT buy TC or KC. TC is just an afk event and KC is one of the easier bosses. Xera can be a bit painful so you can buy that for sure, deimos requires you to stay alive the whole fight so buying might be a good idea. Cairn heart quest can be a bit painful to complete if squad dps is low as you cant miss any greens and the longer the fight is it gets more messy and it might be difficult not to miss greens so consider buying this if its starting to get too anoying ?

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> @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > > > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > > > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

> > > > > > > If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

> > > > > > > Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > FYI you can find sellers for the full achievements for less than 500g.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Add to that i dont have an issue doing W1, and W2, and often do those bosses. The problems start after that, and with nobody doing raids in any of my guilds when im online(yay timezones)im never going to get a group for them.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Which is why my opinions on raids are the way they are.

> > > > >

> > > > > Alright if you say so. Im part of the the big endgame raiding guild and we have lot of raid sellers here from different guilds including me. And price for raid bosses is same in every raid seller LFG post unless you happen to be friend with some1 from raid selling guild ofc.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you are just a random guy buying kills from sellers price is more or less the one that i said considering that you said that ur going to buy achievments AND LIs.

> > > > >

> > > > > It gets a bit cheaper if you are buying w1'4 FC weekly but still gonna cost around 1000-1500MC/week.

> > > >

> > > > Yea im not trying to buy the weekly kills, just need the few i cant do with my group for the achievements, i shoulda made my post clearer, apologies on that. I can get the required LI in W1 and W2 over the course of time, im not in any hurry what so ever on that front.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > If thats the case then you are kinda correct. You only need to buy w3 once and w4 once and that indeed should be doable with and cost of 500-1000 gold(depending ofc how many times your failing cairn crystaline heart).

> > >

> > >

> >

> > Yupyup, And really i only need to buy Xera, KC, TC, and Deimos.

> >

> > Cairn is part of one of the wings -i can do- so i dont need to buy that, it sucks though, if i was in different time zone i could do all the achievements without needing to buy them. I have characters, and builds all set up to do raids. *shrug*

>

> Alright u know your stuff, DONT buy TC or KC. TC is just an afk event and KC is one of the easier bosses. Xera can be a bit painful so you can buy that for sure, deimos requires you to stay alive the whole fight so buying might be a good idea. Cairn heart quest can be a bit painful to complete if squad dps is low as you cant miss any greens and the longer the fight is it gets more messy and it might be difficult not to miss greens so consider buying this if its starting to get too anoying ?

 

xD Only reason imma buy KC is because i cant complete it, the group i go with always wants to "Train pushers" on KC, so we dont ever kill the bloody thing. I dont know -why we do that everytime-

 

Didnt know about TC, ill cross that one off the list! Thanks for that :D

 

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> @"Dante.1763" said:

> > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > > > @"sokeenoppa.5384" said:

> > > > > > > > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > > > > > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > > > > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > That will cost you around 7500 mystic coins and 150 weeks.(if you are only buying escort weekly which is the cheapest one.)

> > > > > > > > If you are buying other bossses to speed it up we can say that avg boss kill is around 80 mystic coins, so 150*80=12000 mystic coins=15k gold.

> > > > > > > > Now you only need to add some extra gold there for some raid achievments and the cost of your armor goes close to 20k gold, have fun.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > FYI you can find sellers for the full achievements for less than 500g.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Add to that i dont have an issue doing W1, and W2, and often do those bosses. The problems start after that, and with nobody doing raids in any of my guilds when im online(yay timezones)im never going to get a group for them.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Which is why my opinions on raids are the way they are.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Alright if you say so. Im part of the the big endgame raiding guild and we have lot of raid sellers here from different guilds including me. And price for raid bosses is same in every raid seller LFG post unless you happen to be friend with some1 from raid selling guild ofc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you are just a random guy buying kills from sellers price is more or less the one that i said considering that you said that ur going to buy achievments AND LIs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It gets a bit cheaper if you are buying w1'4 FC weekly but still gonna cost around 1000-1500MC/week.

> > > > >

> > > > > Yea im not trying to buy the weekly kills, just need the few i cant do with my group for the achievements, i shoulda made my post clearer, apologies on that. I can get the required LI in W1 and W2 over the course of time, im not in any hurry what so ever on that front.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > If thats the case then you are kinda correct. You only need to buy w3 once and w4 once and that indeed should be doable with and cost of 500-1000 gold(depending ofc how many times your failing cairn crystaline heart).

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Yupyup, And really i only need to buy Xera, KC, TC, and Deimos.

> > >

> > > Cairn is part of one of the wings -i can do- so i dont need to buy that, it sucks though, if i was in different time zone i could do all the achievements without needing to buy them. I have characters, and builds all set up to do raids. *shrug*

> >

> > Alright u know your stuff, DONT buy TC or KC. TC is just an afk event and KC is one of the easier bosses. Xera can be a bit painful so you can buy that for sure, deimos requires you to stay alive the whole fight so buying might be a good idea. Cairn heart quest can be a bit painful to complete if squad dps is low as you cant miss any greens and the longer the fight is it gets more messy and it might be difficult not to miss greens so consider buying this if its starting to get too anoying ?

>

> xD Only reason imma buy KC is because i cant complete it, the group i go with always wants to "Train pushers" on KC, so we dont ever kill the bloody thing. I dont know -why we do that everytime-

>

> Didnt know about TC, ill cross that one off the list! Thanks for that :D

>

 

You can complete both TC achievments ALONE without needing for you to complete TC. For the first one, just use portals in TC and kill some random mobs while having Tormented Aurillium in your inventory. If you don’t get a popup, try clicking on the item in your inventory while inside the Twisted Maze area.

 

For the 3 chests, just ask some1 to open cleared TC for you and you can loot the chests. You get Blood-Infused Ectoplasm and Coagulated Ectoplasm from the chests.

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> @"Dante.1763" said:

> > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> >

> > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

>

> The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

>

> Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

>

> Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

 

To say that raids is its own game mode is kind of yikes in itself. The only difference is raids are 10 man groups in a instance. It’s not much harder then fractal cms (depending on which raid bosses). To say that they were bad implemented why? Because you have to grind for them? I mean it’s legendary gear, you suppose to grind for them.

 

I truly feel bad for those people who buy raid clears since raids are not hard at all. The biggest learning curve is understanding that you can’t just press 1 all day like in open world. You have to interact. And that’s ok to interact with the game properly. But buying the legendary armor doesn’t give you the true feeling of the armors worth. Getting the clears with pugs or guildmates is much more satisfying then spending so much in game gold for getting carried.

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> @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > >

> > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> >

> > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> >

> > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> >

> > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

>

> To say that raids is its own game mode is kind of yikes in itself. The only difference is raids are 10 man groups in a instance. It’s not much harder then fractal cms (depending on which raid bosses). To say that they were bad implemented why? Because you have to grind for them? I mean it’s legendary gear, you suppose to grind for them.

>

> I truly feel bad for those people who buy raid clears since raids are not hard at all. The biggest learning curve is understanding that you can’t just press 1 all day like in open world. You have to interact. And that’s ok to interact with the game properly. But buying the legendary armor doesn’t give you the true feeling of the armors worth. Getting the clears with pugs or guildmates is much more satisfying then spending so much in game gold for getting carried.

 

Again, getting legendary tier gear as the final reward for the hardest content... Then what? I would want to build up to legendary gear and then use it to play the hardest content. The current implementation would make sense if the armor skins were the reward and not the highest gear tier. I would rather purchase my way to the gear if I could afford it and then do the raids. If I played through all the raids and got the gear after then what do I do with it as I've already mastered the hardest content? I don't mind grinding endgame for some things but gear level should come before endgame content.

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> @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > >

> > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > >

> > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > >

> > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > >

> > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> >

> > To say that raids is its own game mode is kind of yikes in itself. The only difference is raids are 10 man groups in a instance. It’s not much harder then fractal cms (depending on which raid bosses). To say that they were bad implemented why? Because you have to grind for them? I mean it’s legendary gear, you suppose to grind for them.

> >

> > I truly feel bad for those people who buy raid clears since raids are not hard at all. The biggest learning curve is understanding that you can’t just press 1 all day like in open world. You have to interact. And that’s ok to interact with the game properly. But buying the legendary armor doesn’t give you the true feeling of the armors worth. Getting the clears with pugs or guildmates is much more satisfying then spending so much in game gold for getting carried.

>

> Again, getting legendary tier gear as the final reward for the hardest content... Then what? I would want to build up to legendary gear and then use it to play the hardest content. The current implementation would make sense if the armor skins were the reward and not the highest gear tier. I would rather purchase my way to the gear if I could afford it and then do the raids. If I played through all the raids and got the gear after then what do I do with it as I've already mastered the hardest content? I don't mind grinding endgame for some things but gear level should come before endgame content.

 

And the hardest content should reward what then other then 2 blues and a green?

Since legendary share stats with ascended you already got the same tier of gear.

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> @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > >

> > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > >

> > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > >

> > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > >

> > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> >

> > To say that raids is its own game mode is kind of yikes in itself. The only difference is raids are 10 man groups in a instance. It’s not much harder then fractal cms (depending on which raid bosses). To say that they were bad implemented why? Because you have to grind for them? I mean it’s legendary gear, you suppose to grind for them.

> >

> > I truly feel bad for those people who buy raid clears since raids are not hard at all. The biggest learning curve is understanding that you can’t just press 1 all day like in open world. You have to interact. And that’s ok to interact with the game properly. But buying the legendary armor doesn’t give you the true feeling of the armors worth. Getting the clears with pugs or guildmates is much more satisfying then spending so much in game gold for getting carried.

>

> Again, getting legendary tier gear as the final reward for the hardest content... Then what? I would want to build up to legendary gear and then use it to play the hardest content. The current implementation would make sense if the armor skins were the reward and not the highest gear tier. I would rather purchase my way to the gear if I could afford it and then do the raids. If I played through all the raids and got the gear after then what do I do with it as I've already mastered the hardest content? I don't mind grinding endgame for some things but gear level should come before endgame content.

 

Well legendary gear is nice to have when you multi class and meta shifts. Also i would say that that there is other rewards in raids aswell than just legendary gear, there is lot of skins and titles. Legendary is perhaps the easiest raid reward.

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Coming back around to the OP, I do find it odd that the legendary trinkets are spread accross game modes right now. Why wouldn't the current three modes that have legendary armor not get a ring each at the same time then an accessory each at the same time and so on. Putting an accessory in one mode then a ring in another seems like the wrong way to approach legendary trinkets. At this pace no single mode will ever have a full set.

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> @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> Coming back around to the OP, I do find it odd that the legendary trinkets are spread accross game modes right now. Why wouldn't the current three modes that have legendary armor not get a ring each at the same time then an accessory each at the same time and so on. Putting an accessory in one mode then a ring in another seems like the wrong way to approach legendary trinkets. At this pace no single mode will ever have a full set.

 

And that is by design to get people to play more modes.

 

Wvw and spvper cant get weapons without doing pve either.

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I do have to say that while I've tried other modes the legendary sword I made only got me in WvW long enough to get what I needed. I have been back periodically trying to craft legendary armor but gave up. I could not enjoy the game playing WvW for legendary equipment. If you don't fully enjoy the mode legendary equipment is not enough of a motivator to keep players there.

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> @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > @"Dante.1763" said:

> > > > @"blambidy.3216" said:

> > > > > @"Super Hayes.6890" said:

> > > > > Someone mentioned an idea in another thread I liked. They suggested all tiers of equipment should be available in all game modes with similar acquisition levels of difficulty. Makes sense to me.

> > > >

> > > > They shouldn’t be. Cause then it will make people not even try another game mode. Having a different set of gear in a different game mode is nice and makes you try out Another part of the game. Since legendary isn’t for everyone you shouldn’t feel obligated to go for them. But if you are that person who wants all of them, the game modes are well done for fun to get into. The value of specific armor sets gets taken away if you make all legendary armor unlockable in every mode.

> > >

> > > The modes being well done is all an opinion. I think PVP, and WVW are terrible. So those two options for legendary armor are out. Its hard enough working up the want to get a GOB anymore.

> > >

> > > Im about to buy all my raids and LI just so i can get a set of armor and not have to do it anymore. The content is intriguing, fun or desirable for me to do. Raids should be considered their own game mode its playtstyle is nothing like PVE in this game, and PVE should be given their own legendary armor set, even if it is just a rank up of the ascended armor with no new skin.

> > >

> > > Im in the crowd that things every game mode(theres 5.) should have their own full set of everything.

> >

> > To say that raids is its own game mode is kind of yikes in itself. The only difference is raids are 10 man groups in a instance. It’s not much harder then fractal cms (depending on which raid bosses). To say that they were bad implemented why? Because you have to grind for them? I mean it’s legendary gear, you suppose to grind for them.

> >

> > I truly feel bad for those people who buy raid clears since raids are not hard at all. The biggest learning curve is understanding that you can’t just press 1 all day like in open world. You have to interact. And that’s ok to interact with the game properly. But buying the legendary armor doesn’t give you the true feeling of the armors worth. Getting the clears with pugs or guildmates is much more satisfying then spending so much in game gold for getting carried.

>

> Again, getting legendary tier gear as the final reward for the hardest content... Then what? I would want to build up to legendary gear and then use it to play the hardest content. The current implementation would make sense if the armor skins were the reward and not the highest gear tier. I would rather purchase my way to the gear if I could afford it and then do the raids. If I played through all the raids and got the gear after then what do I do with it as I've already mastered the hardest content? I don't mind grinding endgame for some things but gear level should come before endgame content.

 

I don’t disagree that legendary gear should have another implementation. I have 3 sets of envoy armor and it’s truly just for flash and to never farm for that weight ever again. However your statement of what to do after you get it is yikes. It’s no different from other mmos to where you raid and legendary makes your character more op for the raid. The argument is more into philosophy of horizontal progression since no matter what your legendary gear will be the same stats as ascended until (if) ever arenanet tries to make a higher stat than ascended.

 

Getting legendary is no different then say getting wow mythic gear. Once you get mythic gear you do what? Raid? It is the Same thing with gw2..... you use that armor when you raid, or wvw. Stat swap on the fly and not worry about grind ever again. Where as in wow you have to do the gear all over once a new expac comes out.(Not sure about wow legendary) so actually gw2 legendary gear is more beneficial than other mmos. Yes it’s not a higher stat than ascended however to simply not ever have to farm for a armor set or weapon ever again is a good thing. So if a new stat comes out, I can automatically switch to that stat without ever having to farm in open world or wherever this new stat is to get.

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